Originally posted by sam:
Shame. The site it`s on is just worth too much money sadly.

Originally posted by handyscore:
Just a thought, that is Dublins number one tourist attraction. The guinness brewery at St James`s Gate. What wil happen to it, I have never been there myself. There is the possibility of high rise development of the part of the site that is closest to Heuston station, so that is probably on their minds.

Originally posted by jizique:


Not as much as it was worth a couple of years ago.
I suppose they will only close when the replacement is built so will be a few years yet.

This message has been edited - 09-may-2008 @ 02:02

Originally posted by sam:
Shame. The site it`s on is just worth too much money sadly.

Originally posted by Garda Sean Horgan:


See, this is the attitude I have a major issue with.
This generation, but specifically the 50+ and my own are getting there, seem to think that they were the first effing generation to live. Therefore, if they don`t like the Irish language then lets try and banish it from schools, lets try and fight against the funding to all things Irish, branding it a waste of resources.
Then St.James`s Gate, which has been making Guinness since the early 1700s and our generation has decided that it woudl be good for houses.
So, I ask you , whats next. The Dail must be worth a bit of money. Lets knock that down and build flats.
Pheonix Park is prime for concrete. Lets not waste time people. It`s worth alot of money.

The greed and selfishness in this nation and of some of it`s people is staggering. I`m sure that future generations might like to know about Irish and living history like St.James`s gate etc.

Build the effing houses out where they plan to move the brewery to, and leave places like this to be enjoyed by future generations.
Am I wrong?

Yours in Rage,
GSH.

Originally posted by Garda Sean Horgan:


See, this is the attitude I have a major issue with.
This generation, but specifically the 50+ and my own are getting there, seem to think that they were the first effing generation to live. Therefore, if they don`t like the Irish language then lets try and banish it from schools, lets try and fight against the funding to all things Irish, branding it a waste of resources.
Then St.James`s Gate, which has been making Guinness since the early 1700s and our generation has decided that it woudl be good for houses.
So, I ask you , whats next. The Dail must be worth a bit of money. Lets knock that down and build flats.
Pheonix Park is prime for concrete. Lets not waste time people. It`s worth alot of money.

The greed and selfishness in this nation and of some of it`s people is staggering. I`m sure that future generations might like to know about Irish and living history like St.James`s gate etc.

Build the effing houses out where they plan to move the brewery to, and leave places like this to be enjoyed by future generations.
Am I wrong?

Yours in Rage,
GSH.

Originally posted by dancarter:


A lot of your sentiments are correct GSH but...the reaosn this city is in such s**he at the moment with traffic, people never seeing there families due to three hr commutes is for this exact reason, city centre should be residential and big industry on the outskirts like every other modern city.

No dobt Dublin will lose something when this happens but it is easy to justify this on a social basis as much as anything else.

Originally posted by Porky Kweeve:
I`m curious about what they could do there if the brewing is relocated. Surely most of these buildings are protected structures? Is residential a serious option? The site is larely surrounded by Marrowbone Lane, Maryland and Pimlico, although it is already well serviced with public transport.

However its also very close to the Coombe hospital. and if that site becomes available it`ll probably form part of the monster development at the former Players, and will then circle St Teresa`s Gardens.

My vague point is, if these are developed with big money, isn`t there the possibility that these inner city communities, who have already been isolated and deprived enough could be ghettoised even further.

Personally and professionally I`m at a loss with what could be done on the St James Gate site what would either make social sense or even economic sense.

Originally posted by Pog Mahone:
There are some protected buildings on the St James Gate site, but not many, and it is a huge site, 64 acres I think. The environs of the St James Gate site differ significantly from the Jury’s & Gasworks are, so not sure if a similar development would work out there.

Incidentally, I see the developer of the Gasworks site now wants to convert it to a hotel so presumably he wasn’t too successful in getting rid of the apartments even though it was developed in better economic climes.