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Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 08:21	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	I understand he works for Ulster Bank. Does he though? He does more photo-ops than Glenda Gilson these days. Fair play to him and all but how much time does he actually spend in the office? On Tuesday he was in the Papers promoting that Guinness "Hurling Cubed" nonsense and today he`s in The Examiner doing some Spar sponsored coaching gig with youngsters out near Dublin Airport. He`s not the only usual suspect, either. Other frequent camera lovers include: Bryan Cullen , Alan Brogan, John Gardiner, Big Dan, etc It`s a sign of the strength of the GAA brand that companies are queuing up to get the top stars for endorsements, but it makes me wonder if the era of the professional GAA player is already upon us.
miller1910 (1,725 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 08:40	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
miller1910 (1,725 Posts)	you`re right - we should keep him locked away in the vault of the bank. This publicity he`s genertaing for the game of hurling and the the coaching he`s doing with youngsters can only be a bad thing
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 08:45	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Originally posted by miller1910: you`re right - we should keep him locked away in the vault of the bank. This publicity he`s genertaing for the game of hurling and the the coaching he`s doing with youngsters can only be a bad thing agree with you that it`s good he`s generating publicity, however, don`t be so deluded as to think he`s doing any coaching, maybe in his own club but that`s it. these photos aren`t of Seán Óg on a one man mission around the country to improve hurling, they`re him turning up for 15 minutes at a training session run by the same Larry, Tom or Mick who have been doing it for 15 years This message has been edited - 15-may-2008 @ 09:42
Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 09:49	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	Originally posted by miller1910: you`re right - we should keep him locked away in the vault of the bank. This publicity he`s genertaing for the game of hurling and the the coaching he`s doing with youngsters can only be a bad thing Did you actually read what I wrote? I never said it was a bad thing, I was just wondering how they manage to find the time for it all.
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 09:58	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	I`d say its nobody`s business to be honest, and it is a good thing for the GAA in general. I doubt too he gets to do very much coaching, but i`d say Ulster Bank are as happy as Sean Og about it to be honest. He`s higher profile for them than any sponsorship i would guess. Anyway i`m just delighted to see them out doing all this stuff rather than that load of rubbish we started the year with. I found a hint of jealousy in the first post to be honest D2.
Ozzy (1,867 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 10:30	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Ozzy (1,867 Posts)	Nothing at all wrong with a GAA star like Sean Og using his profile a bit. But I found some of the cribbing in that documentary Tall Dark and O hAilpin about how hard it is to be a GAA star a bit hard to stomach in the circumstances. Good luck to him, but if someone is able to make a fair bit of money out of hurling let them not be whinging about the commitment involved in playing. Hope I`m not opening a can of worms here.
Donohill (732 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 10:39	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Donohill (732 Posts)	Lads, do you actually think the bank value this guy as an employee? He`s just there to advertise Ulster Bank, himself and Kieran Donaghy wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years if they weren`t the sports starts they are. That`s the truth. And before anyone jumps down my throat I`ve experience of both these lads. Sound out lads, but not exactly investment manager material like Nicky English or the likes.
LowerThe Blades Lads (840 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 10:55	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
LowerThe Blades Lads (840 Posts)	Some comments above are excessively harsh on Sean Óg. I referred to this on another topic here already but in Mallow on Sunday night he (along with Ben and Joe Deane ) stayed on the pitch for fully 45 minutes after the match. They were surrounded by hordes of young kids and took the time to speak to each and every one of them, sign autographs and have pictures taken. Hardly in keeping with the impression given by `spade caller` I see Sean Óg as a decent and well behaved lad, a truly wonderful sportsman and a really good role model for our young people. Credit where credit is due.
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 10:59	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	Originally posted by Donohill: Lads, do you actually think the bank value this guy as an employee? He`s just there to advertise Ulster Bank, himself and Kieran Donaghy wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years if they weren`t the sports starts they are. That`s the truth. And before anyone jumps down my throat I`ve experience of both these lads. Sound out lads, but not exactly investment manager material like Nicky English or the likes. I don`t know about KD, but Sean Og is very qualified, he done extremely well in his LC, so i`m not sure if its fair to say he`s not capable of been anything he wants to be really. I think thats a little unfair.
J New (588 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:06	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
J New (588 Posts)	Another cork bashing thread..... How you can have a bad word to say about this guy is amazing. He is Mr. GAA in my eyes anyway. I know a few Na Piarsaigh lads and some of the stories I`ve heard from them about his commitment is unreal to hear!
C'monbridge (80 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:09	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
C'monbridge (80 Posts)	I think he`s a great ambassador for the GAA. The only problem is he`s not from Clare! Is there an Ulster Bank manager willing to give this man a job in the Banner county?
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:15	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Originally posted by LowerThe Blades Lads: Some comments above are excessively harsh on Sean Óg. I referred to this on another topic here already but in Mallow on Sunday night he (along with Ben and Joe Deane ) stayed on the pitch for fully 45 minutes after the match. They were surrounded by hordes of young kids and took the time to speak to each and every one of them, sign autographs and have pictures taken. Hardly in keeping with the impression given by `spade caller` I see Sean Óg as a decent and well behaved lad, a truly wonderful sportsman and a really good role model for our young people. Credit where credit is due. whoa there pony, i`ve met Seán Óg a few times and have nothing but praise for him as a person and a sportsman. he`s a sound, humble, committed person. i wasn`t denigrating him at all. i was merely pointing out that Miller 1910 was a little misguided to think these photos of Seán at hurling camps and the like mean that he`s actually doing any of the coaching as Miller1910 seemed to infer. i`ve absolutely no problem with his appearances and aways found him extremely positive with kids.
Collig (1,690 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:21	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Collig (1,690 Posts)	Originally posted by Donohill: Lads, do you actually think the bank value this guy as an employee? He`s just there to advertise Ulster Bank, himself and Kieran Donaghy wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years if they weren`t the sports starts they are. That`s the truth. And before anyone jumps down my throat I`ve experience of both these lads. Sound out lads, but not exactly investment manager material like Nicky English or the likes. Can`t speak for Donaghy but while sean óg probably isn`t the best speaker in the world, he is a very intelligent fella so I don`t really know what you`re implying there saying he "wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years". I know plenty of fellas working in banks who wouldn`t as educated as Sean óg who has a degree in Business if I`m not mistaken. This message has been edited - 15-may-2008 @ 11:23
Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:26	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Donnycarney2 (552 Posts)	Originally posted by Collig: Can`t speak for Donaghy but while sean óg probably isn`t the best speaker in the world, he is a very intelligent fella so I don`t really know what you`re implying there saying he "wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years". I know plenty of fellas working in banks who wouldn`t as educated as Sean óg who has a degree in Business if I`m not mistaken. I have to agree with that. Sean Óg is a smart fella. Correct me if I`m wrong, but I believe he did his business degree in DCU entirely through Irish. If anything he should have that Des Bishop fella`s gig as head cheerleader for the Irish language in this country
Marion Jones (714 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:27	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Marion Jones (714 Posts)	With all due respect to Donnycarney. But how can you use Glenda as a measuring stick to that Sean Og does, is and what he had contributed to Gaelic Games thus far? Sean Og`s relationship with his employers is rooted in two things, his contract of employment and his job description. I am offended to the point of nausea with the comments Donnycarney has generated. Lets leave it at that.
An Fear Rua (Editor)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:30	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
An Fear Rua (Editor)	Originally posted by lovely hurler: I don`t know about KD, but Sean Og is very qualified, he done extremely well in his LC, so i`m not sure if its fair to say he`s not capable of been anything he wants to be really. I think thats a little unfair. He also has a business studies and / or marketing degree from DCU. He`s in the bank on his merits. The days of alickadoos in banks recruiting amateur rugby players through the old pals act are gone. And good riddance!
turk (366 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 11:49	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
turk (366 Posts)	I was delighted to see Henry Hippo (or Henry the Hippo as TV3 news called him ) at the recent hurling championship launch. I hadn`t seen that guy in years!
Kylie Fan (2,392 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 13:34	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Kylie Fan (2,392 Posts)	Originally posted by An Fear Rua: He also has a business studies and / or marketing degree from DCU. He`s in the bank on his merits. The days of alickadoos in banks recruiting amateur rugby players through the old pals act are gone. And good riddance! They`re very much alive IMO and always will be, where i worked a few years ago, i could hear one of the investment guys telling the heading guy about recruiting someone, it was purely cos he played rugby for ireland under age, that was the pitch, up to a level, i`m sure its business and if guy is no good long term ,its a different story, but as regards getting a foot in the door it will always help.Big time..
miller1910 (1,725 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 13:51	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
miller1910 (1,725 Posts)	this reminds me of when Jason Sherlock was superstar material in 1995 and he was criminally under-used by the Dubs at the time. The GAA needs high-profile stars like these to geenrate interest amongst young people - look at Cork where they`re competing with the saturation coverage of Munster rugby for example. There`s plenty of begrudgers out there who want to see them kept back in their box but I won`t quote Brendan Behan on what to with begrudgers. And Donnycarney 2, you say you`re not questioning Sean Ogs intentions but yet your opening post has lines like how many hours does he ctually spend in the office etc.
Hold that Line (3,117 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 14:29	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Hold that Line (3,117 Posts)	Originally posted by Donohill: Lads, do you actually think the bank value this guy as an employee? He`s just there to advertise Ulster Bank, himself and Kieran Donaghy wouldn`t be employed by a bank in a million years if they weren`t the sports starts they are. That`s the truth. And before anyone jumps down my throat I`ve experience of both these lads. Sound out lads, but not exactly investment manager material like Nicky English or the likes. Ulster Bank must be on a mission to employ every intercounty GAA player in Ireland. A bunch of them were in the papers a few weeks ago. Sean Og, Bryan Cullen, Joe Bergin, Finian Hanley, Kieran Donaghy, etc, etc. Was over a dozen of them anyway. To be honest I know personally of GAA players employed by banks just because they are intercounty GAA players and who were probably picked ahead of better qualified candidates. I wouldn`t begrudge them it but it definitely goes on. There is as much an old pals act in GAA as there is in rugby truth be told. This message has been edited - 15-may-2008 @ 14:37
JoNinety (Power User)	Posted: 15-May-2008 14:43	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
JoNinety (Power User)	Originally posted by miller1910: this reminds me of when Jason Sherlock was superstar material in 1995 and he was criminally under-used by the Dubs at the time. It was different times back then. When Sherlock asked for a fee for an interview with a magazine he was chastised the length and breadth of the country (despite the other interviewees for the magazine getting paid ) . This message has been edited - 15-may-2008 @ 17:37
osceola (1,857 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 14:51	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
osceola (1,857 Posts)	Originally posted by JoNinety: It was different times back then. When Sherlock asked for a fee for an interview with a magazine he was chastised the length and breadth of the country (despite the other interviewees for the magazine getting paid ) . Today Sean Óg makes a six figure sum external to his normal job and nobody bats an eyelid. He must be really p**iing his brothers off,him an amateur and all,what kind of change are they on ?
Seamusin (1,283 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:02	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Seamusin (1,283 Posts)	Seán Óg (and others ) are using their marketing power to the maximum. There is nothing wrong with this, unless they are letting people down or making claims to be doing stuff voluntarily for which they are in fact being paid. There’s nothing inconsistent between Seán Óg charging a fee for appearing somewhere, and with Seán Óg being courteous and generous with his time elsewhere. I don’t know what Seán Óg does in the bank. It is unfair to imply that he is only there as a cushy number and for the bank to use his profile and that he is, in effect, unqualified or incapable of doing a responsible job. That said, many top players have been in jobs where their high public profile was exploited. Is there any reason why someone cannot be competent in their job and exploit their image in this way? Maybe the trade off is in flexibility given by the employers regarding training or not having regularly to work late? What grates with me, from time to time, is when GPA and some high profile players (including Seán Óg ) present the lot of the intercounty player as little more than exploitation and hardship- acting as if there are not significant mitigating rewards for all the effort- expenses, marketing opportunities and, in some cases, sympathetic and supportive employers. Finally, even if this thread was having a go at Seán Óg, it does not necessarily make this an anti-Cork thread. There must be paranoia rather than fluorine in the water in parts of Cork
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:12	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
lovely hurler (1,625 Posts)	Seamusin - Why didn`t Donnycarney use one of the other players so? Like Brogan or Gooch who are regulary on as well? Others come in and make it an anti-cork thing, they won`t say it, because it makes them look foolish, but many on here love the chance to have a swipe. Paranoia it is not, but we ain`t the only ones who get swiped at regulary, so we`re not lonely. There is the Dubs, Waterford, Roy Keane, Celtic/Rangers, anyone who wants to discuss anything outside of GAA........the list could go on. And its usually the same idiots, so i wouldn`t worry about it really, i`ve learned to ignore most of it, as most other poster do also.
J New (588 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:44	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
J New (588 Posts)	Originally posted by lovely hurler: Seamusin - Why didn`t Donnycarney use one of the other players so? Like Brogan or Gooch who are regulary on as well? Others come in and make it an anti-cork thing, they won`t say it, because it makes them look foolish, but many on here love the chance to have a swipe. Paranoia it is not, but we ain`t the only ones who get swiped at regulary, so we`re not lonely. There is the Dubs, Waterford, Roy Keane, Celtic/Rangers, anyone who wants to discuss anything outside of GAA........the list could go on. And its usually the same idiots, so i wouldn`t worry about it really, i`ve learned to ignore most of it, as most other poster do also. Point well made there lovely hurler.

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