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Topic: Talented `Windy` young hurler...How to fix it?
bookie
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 20:56
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Coaching a talented 12 year old thats a little too windy for his own good. Lots expected from him, how do we remedy this?
intothewesht
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 21:51
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Originally posted by bookie:
Coaching a talented 12 year old thats a little too windy for his own good. Lots expected from him, how do we remedy this?

Supernanny. If he spends time on the naughty step he will soon learn
James Bond Junior
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 21:53
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Being labeled windy at 12? I dunno about that. His preformance in a game could be down to his sweets and taytos in take duing the day? Try to keep his head screwed on by all means but I personally think its a bit harsh to describe a youngfella like that as windy.
spade caller
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 22:23
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Originally posted by bookie:
Coaching a talented 12 year old thats a little too windy for his own good. Lots expected from him, how do we remedy this?

i presume you mean a small bit cautious as opposed to gaseous? He`s only twelve, i can think of 4 or 5 current intercounty hurlers who weren`t exactly bravehearts underage but they`re grand now. He`ll grow out of it, if you try to force it you`ll only give him a complex about it and he`ll end up doing something stupid in an effort to show how brave he is. Concentrate on improving his skill level, that`ll give him confidence and at his age i`m sure a few of his friends / opponents have let him know what they think of him anyway so he`ll probably come to his own decision to toughen up. Any time he does make a serious effort to get involved though make sure to praise him from the rooftops, positive reinforcement is your only man with twelve year olds.
if it`s a case of him farting, i don`t really know, lay off the beans or onions i suppose?
bookie
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 22:38
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Originally posted by spade caller:

i presume you mean a small bit cautious as opposed to gaseous? He`s only twelve, i can think of 4 or 5 current intercounty hurlers who weren`t exactly bravehearts underage but they`re grand now. He`ll grow out of it, if you try to force it you`ll only give him a complex about it and he`ll end up doing something stupid in an effort to show how brave he is. Concentrate on improving his skill level, that`ll give him confidence and at his age i`m sure a few of his friends / opponents have let him know what they think of him anyway so he`ll probably come to his own decision to toughen up. Any time he does make a serious effort to get involved though make sure to praise him from the rooftops, positive reinforcement is your only man with twelve year olds.
if it`s a case of him farting, i don`t really know, lay off the beans or onions i suppose?

Cheers
westtownie
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 23:08
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Shame on you.
people like you shud not be let coach young lads.
concentrate on his skills and his enjoyment of the sport for now.
when he gets to 14 then start to harden him a bit.
if your a good motivator/communicator you shud get through to him.#
twiceasnice97
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 23:14
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Originally posted by westtownie:
Shame on you.
people like you shud not be let coach young lads.
concentrate on his skills and his enjoyment of the sport for now.
when he gets to 14 then start to harden him a bit.
if your a good motivator/communicator you shud get through to him.#

anyone that is willing to coach young lads deserves credit so on behalf of bookie you can fcuk off.

with regard to the windy thing my advice is to ignore it encourage the lad and take on anyone who attempts to discuss it with you head on.
in other wortds make it an unacceptable  subject for people to be going on about.

lads are continuously being labeled at that age to their own and their clubs detriment. he will either grow out of it or he won`t.
a player i played with was a bit like that as a youngster and went on to be one of the clubs best hurlers at senior.
westtownie
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 23:18
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i disagree, anyone who is involved in coaching young lads does not deserve credit.
they have to earn it and prove themselves as a good coach.
a bad coach will do huge damage to a 12 year old and as far as i am concerned anyone who brands a 12 year old as windy wud be better off stayin away from 12 year olds.
and mind your language, young man. thats it.
zafonic_10
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 23:44
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Originally posted by westtownie:
i disagree, anyone who is involved in coaching young lads does not deserve credit.
they have to earn it and prove themselves as a good coach.
a bad coach will do huge damage to a 12 year old and as far as i am concerned anyone who brands a 12 year old as windy wud be better off stayin away from 12 year olds.
and mind your language, young man. thats it.

You are obviously far removed from your club`s underage set up.

Let me tell you it is becoming increasingly difficult to get people to volunteer their time to coach teams so well done to anybody including `bookie` who is taking time out to coach a local club side.

My advice `bookie` is there are some clashing and blocking drills you can do with the lads where no fear is involved.

1. Clashing on tyres is a good one and young lads usually do it with great zest, explain to him if he can do this he can do it in a match when the ball is there.

2. Blocking drill with no ball involved just a hurley swing from the coach and children come in and block. When they get confident introduce the ball.

There are more but would really need to demonstrate them for you

Best of luck with it bookie.
spade caller
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Posted: 02-Jul-2009 23:59
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Originally posted by westtownie:
i disagree, anyone who is involved in coaching young lads does not deserve credit.
they have to earn it and prove themselves as a good coach.
a bad coach will do huge damage to a 12 year old and as far as i am concerned anyone who brands a 12 year old as windy wud be better off stayin away from 12 year olds.
and mind your language, young man. thats it.

says the man who thinks 12 is too young but 14 is fine??? How many sides do you coach?
Habanerocat
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 09:53
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Originally posted by bookie:
Coaching a talented 12 year old thats a little too windy for his own good. Lots expected from him, how do we remedy this?

Send him out to a South Limerick farm to work for the summer months. Make sure he is forced to hand milk young Heifers every morning and evening.

Also make him pull a few calves and take the worms from the sheep with Jeys Fluid by hand. He`ll be right as rain when he comes back.

Sorry SLR/Bookie, I couldn`t resist that one.
tone
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 10:04
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from my experience very often it`s a case that they just don`t really know how to tackle. because of this they stand out from the tackle which makes them more liable to get a bad belt.

I can remember being in school when the teacher would get us in right beside him and then we`d pull like mad but you couldn`t really get hit cos you were close.

Tackling is a skill like all others so maybe some drills which focus on the basic skills of tackling will help and as everyon will be doing them no-one will be singled out.

Tone
tone
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 10:04
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from my experience very often it`s a case that they just don`t really know how to tackle. because of this they stand out from the tackle which makes them more liable to get a bad belt.

I can remember being in school when the teacher would get us in right beside him and then we`d pull like mad but you couldn`t really get hit cos you were close.

Tackling is a skill like all others so maybe some drills which focus on the basic skills of tackling will help and as everyon will be doing them no-one will be singled out.

Tone
Timber
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 10:11
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Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh siad

a quit word of encouragement always works well. ill always remember that when i started playing. it works better than putting the fear of god into a lad. i remember i used to get dogs abuse from the line at under 12s for waiting for the ball behind the defender hoping hed make a mistake.

maybe 3 parts quiet encouragement and every now and then a stern word
BellShafted
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 10:47
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On a related subject, do anyone coaching teams find that there is a resistance with young lads to catch the ball? I was helping out with the under-14s last year and some of the lads seemed afraid of catching a ball as it either hurt their hand or they were afraid of staved fingers. That could be my fault of course as I told them to try and catch the ball with a cupped hand as there was less chance of it bouncing away.
Rebel CNC
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 10:56
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Originally posted by bookie:
Coaching a talented 12 year old thats a little too windy for his own good. Lots expected from him, how do we remedy this?

FFS - he`s 12. Stop pretending to be be Brian Cody and let the child play the game.
thebook
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:03
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Bust his head
abadref
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:08
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Originally posted by thebook:
Bust his head

drop  the c**+++++++++ and tell him to go home and tell his mother he`s useless
Remember Me 2009
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:11
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Originally posted by abadref:


drop   the c**+++++++++ and tell him to go home and tell his mother he`s useless

Exactly what Id do, before ringing Tom Humphries and getting your side of the story into the paper first....cite lack of commitment, loss of form, personal issues, inability to commit to code as reasons for having to drop  him.......
Durango
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:22
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Trying playing him wing back for a few matches, I have always found that if you had someone who was a small bit windy or who has lost some confidence a spell at wing back does no harm.

They get plenty of loose ball at wing back which can build up confidence.
manfromdelmonte
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:29
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yeah, use drills that get him close to other players. blocking, hooking, snigs, shoulder to shoulder clashing, catching overhead  (with feigned opposition from behind - ie getting him to put up a protecting hurley ) 

Play a game then where team gets 1 point for doing these skills - really brings kids on at trying it.
Habanerocat
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:32
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Originally posted by Durango:
Trying playing him wing back for a few matches, I have always found that if you had someone who was a small bit windy or who has lost some confidence a spell at wing back does no harm.

They get plenty of loose ball at wing back which can build up confidence.

Yes this is an old but good solution that I have seen work several times.

Main problem being that you end up with more backs than forwards.
abadref
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 11:56
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Have an affair with his mother
Hardy Boys
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 12:03
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Originally posted by Durango:
Trying playing him wing back for a few matches, I have always found that if you had someone who was a small bit windy or who has lost some confidence a spell at wing back does no harm.

They get plenty of loose ball at wing back which can build up confidence.

??????????????

U12s remember

Name a position the ball is`nt loose

Leopard can`t change its stripes, you can’t teach a windy b*****__________ new tricks etc etc
maroonandwhite
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Posted: 03-Jul-2009 12:11
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play him on the u-14s or even put him training with the u-16s, you said he`s able to hurl, just dont give him soft frees. when he`s with the big lads and he won`t be long learning how to look out for himself.

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