Originally posted by TommyLarkin:


yeh im based over in the city 3 out of every 4 weeks with work so i have the season ticket a few years now.

most interesting thing here in the past couple of weeks is the moves made by fans groups, some newly formed, in calling out Kenwright on the lack of money/takeover bids/Philip Green influence etc and should bring things to a head pretty quickly.

Originally posted by cerebus:

This time next year WE will be....

Originally posted by faldo:
has he said hes looking for the "right" kind off investor or is he just holding on for big money?

Originally posted by TommyLarkin:


who knows faldo, absolutely no idea and i dont think bill has either!!

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:


I think some of the lads on this board here have more of a clue than the lads on the Everton board!

I find it hard to dislike Kenwright though, when he took over at Everton thery were in a very bad place, so many mistakes had been made since the glory days of 84-87, Colin Harvey is an Everton legend but should never really have got the managers job after Kendalls departure, the appointment of Mike Walker, the appointment of Howard Kendall for a third time, the situation that led to Joe Rolye walking away, persisting with Walter Smith for so long.

Everton were still competing well with the likes of United, Liverpool and Arsenal just before the dawn of the Premiership, and should have been in a great position to capitalise on the extra money in the game, but so many mistakes were made at board level and in the transfer market, that the club were soon struggling to retain their top flight status.

It has taken Kenwright and his appointment of David Moyes to restore some dignity and pride to the club. Unfortunately, Kenwright has now brought the club has far as he can take it...In recent years Spurs and Man City have overtaken Everton, while the nearly every other club in the Premiership seem to be able to compete better in the transfer market, the club is going stagnant again and if new investment doesn`t arrive very soon, then the only way is down once more.

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:


I think some of the lads on this board here have more of a clue than the lads on the Everton board!

I find it hard to dislike Kenwright though, when he took over at Everton thery were in a very bad place, so many mistakes had been made since the glory days of 84-87, Colin Harvey is an Everton legend but should never really have got the managers job after Kendalls departure, the appointment of Mike Walker, the appointment of Howard Kendall for a third time, the situation that led to Joe Rolye walking away, persisting with Walter Smith for so long.

Everton were still competing well with the likes of United, Liverpool and Arsenal just before the dawn of the Premiership, and should have been in a great position to capitalise on the extra money in the game, but so many mistakes were made at board level and in the transfer market, that the club were soon struggling to retain their top flight status.

It has taken Kenwright and his appointment of David Moyes to restore some dignity and pride to the club. Unfortunately, Kenwright has now brought the club has far as he can take it...In recent years Spurs and Man City have overtaken Everton, while the nearly every other club in the Premiership seem to be able to compete better in the transfer market, the club is going stagnant again and if new investment doesn`t arrive very soon, then the only way is down once more.

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:
Think the Kirkby move is dead in the water, planning refused and I`m glad. Ideal situation would obviously be to refurbish Goodison but that seems to have been dismissed out of hand by the board as well.

Unfortunately, the Stadium issue seems to be the one major obstacle to attracting new investment, can`t understand it myself really, Liverpool have managed it and they need to refurbish / build also.

I think the board are making too big an issue over the Stadium, if investment in the squad isn`t made soon, they won`t have to worry about the Stadium issue, as Everton will be playing in the Championship.

Originally posted by TommyLarkin:


your last point is the most important AFM&B and spot on, the sad thing is if Moyes isnt backed then you couldnt blame him for leaving if he always has to sell first before he can buy and who knows where we would end up without him.

The failure to secure Kings Dock all those years ago was the biggest error on this boards behalf and will always hang over them too.

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:


It`s sadly inevitable   that Moyes will leave if things continue as they are, his loyalty has been pushed to the limits already, there was a point there last season when I really did think he was going to walk away, and I would have found it hard to blame him.

Back to the Stadium issue, I see season ticket sales are over 3000 down on last year, it`s possible that some supporters have left it late to renew, or the recession might be a factor, but I think disillusionment may be the main reason though.

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:
Think the Kirkby move is dead in the water, planning refused and I`m glad. Ideal situation would obviously be to refurbish Goodison but that seems to have been dismissed out of hand by the board as well.

Unfortunately, the Stadium issue seems to be the one major obstacle to attracting new investment, can`t understand it myself really, Liverpool have managed it and they need to refurbish / build also.

I think the board are making too big an issue over the Stadium, if investment in the squad isn`t made soon, they won`t have to worry about the Stadium issue, as Everton will be playing in the Championship.

Originally posted by plain vanilla:


Perhaps this is naivety on my part, but why can`t Everton and Liverpool join forces and build a spanking new stadium in Stanley Park?

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:


You`d imagine that it would be the sensible option for both clubs but Stadium sharing has never really been embraced in England. I think Everton have been slightly more open to the idea, but Liverpool have always ruled it out. Don`t think either sets of fans would be much in favour of it either.

Originally posted by Sean Mc Dermotts:
Great to see we have gathered a small band of toffees on this thread, maybe if we are left in peace we can keep it runnig thru the season to discuss games, espacially when the gAA is finished, lets avoid the use of the word `WE` as i know it upsets certian posters that irishmen associate themselves that closely with UK clubs, Toffees Abu!

Originally posted by An Fear Marún agus Bán:

True, theres a few Leeds United fans on here and they have kept the same thread running for the last few years, pops up every now and again.

This message has been edited - 19-jul-2011 @ 10:17

Originally posted by patr1ck84:
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/nil-money-nil-optimism-everton-are-squatters-in-the-premier-league/

What ye reckon squatters

Originally posted by Sean Mc Dermotts:


Will treat this post with the contempt it deserves `an if you know yer history`!!

Originally posted by patr1ck84:
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/nil-money-nil-optimism-everton-are-squatters-in-the-premier-league/

What ye reckon squatters

Originally posted by faldo:
im surprised your replied to it!!where are you from sean..

Originally posted by Sean Mc Dermotts:


County Galway, but in UK for near 20 years, where the other toffess from, I guess Tommy L and AFMAB are both Galweigans as well?