Mobile Version  |  Register  |  Login
home  |  speak out!  |  content zone archives  |  "speak out!" archives  |  vote on it  |  soap opera  |  pub crawl  |  links  |  contact us  |  search  
 Follow us! 
Speak Out! - Gaelic Games
Notices
"Speak Out!" Home  |  Topic Listing  |  Post New Topic  |  Post Reply
Yesterday's HOT topics  |  Today's HOT topics
 |  Jump to:  
First 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Last
Select a page:   PageSize:   Page 12 of 16
Topic: Limerick Minors and Under 21s 2012
LimerickExileInClare
(750 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 13:39
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
SLR
Darren Sweetnam is the young man's name,not from your traditional GAA background I'm led to believe and a name associated with a dark period of the history of West Cork.
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 14:15
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Sa Bhaile
Was not Mike Barron from Mungret?
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 14:26
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Heres my stab at the minor team prediction. I hope this doesn’t go against the grain of secrecy surrounding this team....
Daragh Stapleton (Doon)
James Carrig (Patrickswell)
Richard English (Doon)
Shane Irwin (Bruff)
Diarmuid Byrnes (Patrickswell)
Barry O’Connell (Kildimo/Pallaskenry)
Evan Fitzgerald (Claughaun)
Ronan Lynch (Na Piarsaigh)
Eamon Lean (Kilmallock)
Andrew LaTouche (Monaleen)
Stephen Condron (Ballingarry)
Jack Kelliher (Patrickswell)
Kevin O’Brien (Patrickswell)
Brian Griffin (Ballybrown)
Cian Lynch (Patrickswell)
Open the Shoulders
(439 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 14:47
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
green giant
Very young team there. I have not seen much of the minor club championship so far but I find it surprising that you expect one third of the team to be from one club. Have the Doon lads gone back so much in a couple of years, They had a load of players on the team at u16. David Condron is the Granagh Ballingarry lad.
shoulderghost
(238 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 15:22
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
AFAIK, Mike Barron was originally from
Banogue with whom he hurled for years before moving
to Mungret. And now relation to the Knockainey Barrons as
far as I know.

Pat Barron is prob a son or nephew of Jerry
Barron's who hurled for Knockainey for years
and years. Fine footballer too was Jerry!
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 15:26
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I know this is avery young team and not exactly the one I would pick. I think the six backs will be along these lines, but from midfield up I am purely guessing, but i believe these players have got alot of game time lately.
There is alot of talent omitted there,and a lot of forward options, Pat Simon (Doon) ,Liam O'Sullivan (Deel), Eoin Farrell (Croom), Gearoid Hegarty (st Pats).
I am sure I will have a few positions wrong. I will be very intested to se the final cut.
TwoHands
(91 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 16:50
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I agree with you on the six backs, but I'd expect to see Diarmud Dea (Mungret) in midfield, as well as Pat Ryan (Doon) and Liam O'Sullivan (Deel R) in the forwards, although I'm not sure who they would replace. Great that we have so many competing for places.
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 16:53
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I had forgotten Diarmuid Dee , mainly due to the fact he has missed most of the year due to injury. Also i had not mentioned , Brian Finn from Bruff and Andrew Hannigan from St Pats. These are two very strong players and if they are not selected we will have a very strong starting fifteen.
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 17:22
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Why any board would predetermine a qualifier draw like that is beyond me. I must make enquiries into the logic of it because it makes no sense to me.

The logical thing to do is have the first rounds. Then draw the losers group and then draw the Semi Finals based on the premise that counties who have met already must be kept apart till the final.

Originally posted by TwoHands:
The Limerick minor team/squad will be named tonight. Cork v Limerick, Wednesday May 2nd in Pairc Ui Chaoimh at 7pm. Whoever is beaten will face the losers of Kerry and Tipp on the 5th of May. The winners of this game will then play the losers of Clare and Waterford on the 8th of May, with the winners progressing to meet the winners of Cork/Limerick in the Munster SF at the end of June. Lose and they must win another two games in 8 days to progress; win and they're into a SF in 8wks time. It’s possible Limerick and Cork could meet twice before any Final. (no disrespect to the other teams intended, just pointing out a possible scenario the draw has produced.
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 17:24
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Padraig Barron is a son of Ger Barron, the Limerick Masters player from the early 2000s, and the bossman of KBO communications.

Originally posted by shoulderghost:
AFAIK, Mike Barron was originally from
Banogue with whom he hurled for years before moving
to Mungret. And now relation to the Knockainey Barrons as
far as I know.Pat Barron is prob a son or nephew of Jerry
Barron's who hurled for Knockainey for years
and years. Fine footballer too was Jerry!
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 17:27
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I would have thought the team that started against Kilkenny will play, as I was of the impression that was the team they had in mind, with Diarmuid Dee possibly coming in for Le Touche Cosgrave who is a bit green yet, but then again, I heard that he played fierce well in other challenges. Where Dee would come in is another story.

As soon as the team is named, post it up

Originally posted by green giant:
Heres my stab at the minor team prediction. I hope this doesn’t go against the grain of secrecy surrounding this team....
Daragh Stapleton (Doon)
James Carrig (Patrickswell)
Richard English (Doon)
Shane Irwin (Bruff)
Diarmuid Byrnes (Patrickswell)
Barry O’Connell (Kildimo/Pallaskenry)
Evan Fitzgerald (Claughaun)
Ronan Lynch (Na Piarsaigh)
Eamon Lean (Kilmallock)
Andrew LaTouche (Monaleen)
Stephen Condron (Ballingarry)
Jack Kelliher (Patrickswell)
Kevin O’Brien (Patrickswell)
Brian Griffin (Ballybrown)
Cian Lynch (Patrickswell)
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 17:28
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
As far as I know Pat Ryan Simon is injured but not 100% sure

Originally posted by TwoHands:
I agree with you on the six backs, but I'd expect to see Diarmud Dea (Mungret) in midfield, as well as Pat Ryan (Doon) and Liam O'Sullivan (Deel R) in the forwards, although I'm not sure who they would replace. Great that we have so many competing for places.
roadrunner
(911 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 18:17
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Went to Meelick tonight to see the Under 21s who were beaten by Clare. The score was 4-4 to 1-8 to Clare at half time, and Clare got another goal and pulled away in the second half. Limerick then got a run of a few scores including a goal but I am not sure of the final score. Clare had the likes of Conor McGrath, Cathal McInerney and Podge Collins starting and brought on Jamie Fitzgibbon, Tony Kelly and Aaron CunninghamMungret Goalie
Mike Reidy
Dan Morrissey
Barry Lynch
William Hickey
Cathal Mac
Tom Callaghan
Adrian Breen
Robert Egan
Mark Setanta O'Connell
Niall Kennedy
Bill Creamer
Jack Aherne
Padraig Barron
Willie GriffinTom Callaghan got injured very early and Bill Creamer dropped to wing back for the remainder of the first half with Brendan O'Connor going on. Mark O'Connell dropped back in the second half with Creamer going back into the forwards.Subs who went on in the Second half were
Owen Webb O'Rourke
Micheal Barry
John O'Dwyer (Monaleen) scored 1-2
Tom Breen
Might be missing someone. Cant think off the top of my head
clare won 5.13 to 2.16 dan morrissey very exposed marking clare conor mc grath. mc grath scored 2.1 off him before been replaced early in 2nd half. clare bought on another lively forward aaron cunnigham who also looked pacey and dangerous.
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 21:17
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Minor team V Cork Wednesday night

Daragh Stapleton
Shane Irwin
Richard English
Evan Fitzgerald
Barry O,Connell
Diarmuid Byrnes
Brian Finn
...... Cleary
Ronan Lynch
David Condron
Eoin Farrell
Cian Lynch
Brian Griffin
Kevin O'Brien
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 21:19
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by green giant:
Minor team V Cork Wednesday night Daragh Stapleton
Shane Irwin
Richard English
Evan Fitzgerald
Barry O,Connell
Diarmuid Byrnes
Brian Finn
...... Cleary
Ronan Lynch
David Condron
Eoin Farrell
Cian Lynch
Brian Griffin
Kevin O'Brien

Sorry left out James Carrig at left corner back
TwoHands
(91 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 21:23
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply

Kieran Cleary (Knockainey)
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 21:30
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Heard this was the team.

Daragh Stapleton (Doon)
Shane Irwin (Bruff)
Richard English (Doon)
James Carrig (Patrickswell)
Diarmuid Byrnes (Patrickswell)
Barry O'Connell (Kildimo/Pallaskenry)
Evan Fitzgerald (Claughaun)
Brian Finn (Bruff)
Kieran Cleary (Knockainey)
Eoin Farrell (Croom)
David Condron (Granagh/Ballingarry)
Ronan Lynch (Na Piarsaigh)
Kevin O'Brien (Patrickswell)
Brian Griffin (Ballybrown)
Cian Lynch (Patrickswell)

One change form the Kilkenny game with Eoin Farrell coming in for Andrew Le Touche Cosgrave who is young and has time on his side. I felt he wouldnt start, but I though Diarmuid Dee would. Eoin Farrell is more used to the forwards at this level I guess. I think they had to go with this team once they got the result against Kilkenny, but minor challenges can be very misleading.

Initially I felt that these guys lacked the marquee name to be successful, but they are even, and very well prepared. Sometimes its the team you least expect that comes good. There is a 1984 flavour to the team as well with two Bruff players, and four Patrickwell players.

Evan Fitzgerald is a son of John Fitzgerald who replaced Don Flynn for the 1984 All Ireland Minor Final replay at Corner Back. Brian Finn is a son for former Limerick Senior Brian Finn. Darragh Stapleton is a brother of Davy Stapleton of the 2000 Under 21 team. Kevin O'Brien is a brother of Tom and Seanie who are on the senior panel. Diarmuid Dee is a son of former Kerry footballer Tom Dee who held up the Limerick football championship in 1992 over his legality to play with Hospital Herbertstown. Cian Lynch is a nephew of Ciaran Carey. Gearoid Hegarty on the bench is a son of Ger Hegarty. Darragh Donovan on bench is a son of James Donovan the former Limerick footballer. Pat Ryan Simon on bench is a brother of Micheal Ryan Simon of the 2005 minor team
This message has been edited - 30-apr-2012 @ 22:01
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 22:22
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
One mistake there SLR- Hegarty is not even on the bench, Very disappointing IMHO. I am not a fan of this team and really don't know what history or who's son is on the team has got to do with how good individual,s are. Is it a help to have a famous relative to get you a place on this team,
You forgot that Barry O,Connell is a grandson of Con O,Connell, who once captained the Limerick minors-not sure of the year
South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 22:28
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
My views on this 24 business are well known. Every player on a panel should be togged and named on the programme. Sooner or later a manager. Too many minors have been blackguarded by the system. If you are on the panel, you are on the panel, you tog and you are names as a sub from 1-30 on the centre page of the programme

Pat Fitz of Doon the Munster Council CEO should see to that.

Originally posted by green giant:
One mistake there SLR- Hegarty is not even on the bench, Very disappointing IMHO. I am not a fan of this team and really don't know what history or who's son is on the team has got to do with how good individual,s are. Is it a help to have a famous relative to get you a place on this team,
You forgot that Barry O,Connell is a grandson of Con O,Connell, who once captained the Limerick minors-not sure of the year
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 30-Apr-2012 22:37
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I think it is very degrading for players who have busted a gut all year and who in my opinion are good enough to make the team not alone just the panel are not even asked to tog out , when players who haven,t played or trained throughout the year due to comittments to other sports can make the panel first. I think there is a lot of politics in this team. We must have one hell of an U/16 team.
TwoHands
(91 Posts)
Posted: 01-May-2012 11:24
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I can understand how players would feel disappointed not making the squad, but to suggest there may be “a lot of politics in this team” is disrespectful to those 24 lads who were selected. They are there on merit and ability and it’s not managements fault they are restricted to 24 players.
The manager and selectors have had the players since November/December and have seen them week-in/week-out in training and challenges. This gives them the right to select the team as they see it, even if that includes a player who is trying to balance two sports.
At this level the selection process must be ruthless - If he’s good enough, then he should be there. It's the same with the U16 lads; if they’re good enough, they’re old enough.
green giant
(150 Posts)
Posted: 01-May-2012 12:25
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I am not for one minute trying to be disrespectful to any of the young lads that will pull on a Limerick jersey on Wednesday night. I have huge admiration for anyone who puts the effort in to achieve this and fully accept that there are going to be dissapointments for some guy's.
As per the team I posted earlier yesterday the majority of this team is as most people would expect.There are one or two positions I dont agree with and I think I am entitled to that opinion.This is what the management feel is there best 24. That is what they are elected to do.Again I dont have to agree and I feel some( very few) of the decisions are not made for the right reasons.To say that management have had the players since Nov/Dec is incorrect as they have had very little access to either Ard Scoill or Doon players up untill 4/6 weeks ago.
Your point on allowing a player to balance two sports is valid if applied across all. This has not been the case.

On the point if you are good enough it doesn,t matter what age you are. It is again a very valid point , it is just that I think there is such a big difference physically and mentally between 16 and 18. Only the likes of Joe Canning and Noel McGrath have made this step in my recent memory( i am open to correction here)and if we have three players of this calibre then we are in very good shape. Agsin it is my opinion that these lads should be given the time to develop to their full potential.

I would dearly wish that we win on Wednesday night and the decisions I feel are incorrect, go out and prove me wrong.We are long starved of underage success and it would be great to go to Cork and come away with a win.

Again these are my opinions and not meant to be imposed on anyone.

Originally posted by TwoHands:
I can understand how players would feel disappointed not making the squad, but to suggest there may be “a lot of politics in this team” is disrespectful to those 24 lads who were selected. They are there on merit and ability and it’s not managements fault they are restricted to 24 players.
The manager and selectors have had the players since November/December and have seen them week-in/week-out in training and challenges. This gives them the right to select the team as they see it, even if that includes a player who is trying to balance two sports.
At this level the selection process must be ruthless - If he’s good enough, then he should be there. It's the same with the U16 lads; if they’re good enough, they’re old enough.
dodgy-keeper
(3,496 Posts)
Posted: 01-May-2012 18:46
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Any of ye travelling down to this tomorrow night? I'll be there anyway.

Fairly heavy rain in Cork yesterday and today. Could ruin the game if it does go ahead.

Best of luck to the players and management.
dodgy-keeper
(3,496 Posts)
Posted: 02-May-2012 21:07
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Get in.

We've lost enough tight games over the years so absolutely delighted to get out of there with a one point win tonight.

5 points up with ten minutes to go, Cork came back and levelled and seemingly had the momentum to go on and pinch it. But massive credit to the Limerick lads, they never stopped battling all through and Liam O'Sullivan stuck over an absolute screamer deep into injury time to snatch the win. The drama was not over as Cork went down the other end and I'll never know how they failed to rattle the net from a couple of chances to grab the win.

Not the greatest quality game and Limerick will have to improve in the semi final (where they could meet Cork again). Barry O'Connell and Shane Irwin really stood up in the second half while Ronan Lynch was also excellent throughout.

I'm nearly as exhausted as all the players after that! A good night for Limerick hurling.
dodgy-keeper
(3,496 Posts)
Posted: 02-May-2012 22:06
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Tipp 6-21 Kerry 0-11

Waterford 1-20 Clare 3-13 (AET)

Limerick 0-16 Cork 1-12.

Tipp v Waterford in one semi final.

Limerick v Clare/Cork in the other.

First 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Last
Select a page:   Page 12 of 16
"Speak Out!" Home  |  Topic Listing  |  Post New Topic  |  Post Reply
Content Zone
‘We talk just like lions, but we sacrifice like lambs…’.
Whatever Happened to….
Anyone you know in your club?
Bin Tags Don't Make a County
‘Some a’ Dem’ Lads are only Dow-en for the Showers….’
Heavenly Hurling: How the Gods pass their time...
GAA Time and Real Time
Saint Patrick and the camogie princesses
Keats and Chapman at the Munster Final
Mass, the Mater, ‘The Dergvale’ and Mullingar…

More "Content Zone" Topics >>


Speak Out!

More "Speak Out!" Topics >>
There are 10,277 members signed up to anfearrua.com
All times are Dublin, Ireland. Always here... with the best in GAA discussion and comment! © An Fear Rua, 2000 - 2013
Bookmark AFR  |  Make AFR your home page About Us  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use [ Top of Page ]