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Paul Kimmage
geronimo
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30-Jan-2012 10:30
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Kimmage absolutely ruined my enjoyment of an Interview with Eamonn Coughlan on last nights iTalkSport. Coughlan was going to talk about his trip to an Irish Priest in Kenya who coaches lots of the great Kenyan runners for the last 30 years..
How the Kenyans train, their lifestyle and so forth.. What does Kimmage do? Straight away he is asking Coughlan do blood testers visit the centre and then into the doping situation in athletics.
So Coughlan never got to speak in depth about all the interesting things about the Kenyans. Just ended up with Kimmage going on and on about doping. he needs to get a grip and be a bit more balanced, hes a great writer but loses it when it comes to doping.
I thought he was bad enough last weekend with the attack on Ian O`Riordan on the same issue on drugs in sport.
Granted athletes do take drugs, but Coughlan wanted to talk about the purity of the sport. Coughlan is a well respected man of high integrity, and should not have been treated as bad as Kimmage did so last night
Hitch
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30-Jan-2012 10:36
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Originally posted by geronimo:
Kimmage absolutely ruined my enjoyment of an Interview with Eamonn Coughlan on last nights iTalkSport. Coughlan was going to talk about his trip to an Irish Priest in Kenya who coaches lots of the great Kenyan runners for the last 30 years..
How the Kenyans train, their lifestyle and so forth.. What does Kimmage do? Straight away he is asking Coughlan do blood testers visit the centre and then into the doping situation in athletics.
So Coughlan never got to speak in depth about all the interesting things about the Kenyans. Just ended up with Kimmage going on and on about doping. he needs to get a grip and be a bit more balanced, hes a great writer but loses it when it comes to doping.
I thought he was bad enough last weekend with the attack on Ian O`Riordan on the same issue on drugs in sport.
Granted athletes do take drugs, but Coughlan wanted to talk about the purity of the sport, while also being a well respected man of high integrity
A `decent skin` for all the world.
McFlurry
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30-Jan-2012 11:44
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any link?
cityoftribes
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30-Jan-2012 11:50
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Originally posted by geronimo:
Paul Kimmage
Glad this has come up, as it`s something that I`ve noticed for a while now. Italksport is a great show, McDevitt is a great interviewer and the variety of different guests weekly was/is very interesting. Kimmage was one of those that was on the show from time to time and he was grand at that, but now he seems to be a permanent fixture and in short, it just doesn`t work. It needs to go back to the way it was as it has lost it`s appeal as a result.
geronimo
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30-Jan-2012 12:05
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Originally posted by cityoftribes:
Glad this has come up, as it`s something that I`ve noticed for a while now. Italksport is a great show, McDevitt is a great interviewer and the variety of different guests weekly was/is very interesting. Kimmage was one of those that was on the show from time to time and he was grand at that, but now he seems to be a permanent fixture and in short, it just doesn`t work. It needs to go back to the way it was as it has lost it`s appeal as a result.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rprq69TWE8E
thats last weeks attack...
cant find yesterdays one
GalwayDownUnder
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30-Jan-2012 12:31
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I`m watching it at present. I`d rather have Coughlans attitude to sport than Kimmages. Kimmage is being very arrogant, pulling out an example and then berating Coughlan for not doing enough reseach.
Both O`Sullivan and Coughlan coming across as gentlemen on the show.
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30-Jan-2012 12:44
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Kimmage is right w@nker. His book rough ride is a pile of sh!te. It could have been good, but his ego got in the way. He seems to be under the impression that the only reason he did not win the Tour de France was because everybody else was taking drugs and he wasn`t.
Hold that Line
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30-Jan-2012 12:46
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Saw part of it last night had to turn it off as Kimmage was annoying me. I`m all for weeding out drugs cheats in sport but Kimmage is fanatical about it. He turns any conversation back to PED`s.
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30-Jan-2012 13:05
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Slightly off topic but after hearing Eamon Coughlan of Matt Cooper last Friday week, he is a pretty big fan of himself-he also referred to himself in the 3rd person a few times. Ger Hartman came across the same way. It must be down to the psychology of the sport that you build your confidence up by telling yourself you`re the best or is that unfair on other athletes-Sonia never came across that way.
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30-Jan-2012 13:06
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Originally posted by stones_off:
Kimmage is right w@nker. His book rough ride is a pile of sh!te. It could have been good, but his ego got in the way. He seems to be under the impression that the only reason he did not win the Tour de France was because everybody else was taking drugs and he wasn`t.
Stop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think!
Yojimbo
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30-Jan-2012 13:36
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Originally posted by stones_off:
Kimmage is right w@nker. His book rough ride is a pile of sh!te. It could have been good, but his ego got in the way. He seems to be under the impression that the only reason he did not win the Tour de France was because everybody else was taking drugs and he wasn`t.
I`ve never read the book, but Kimmage is like a broken record with his anti-drugs rant, which never seems to change much from interview to interview. give me David Walsh, anyday, who`s a far superior writer, also
The Scoring Goal
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30-Jan-2012 13:43
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That documentary about Eamon Coughlan in Kenya was on last Wednesday night. I missed the start but I didn`t think it was great. Certainly could have been much better
paddypower
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30-Jan-2012 15:05
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His book Engage with Matt Hampson is an unbelievable read.
gaelforce10
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30-Jan-2012 15:14
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Kimmage is right to keep asking the questions.
you`ve got a lot of these so called athletes going around deliberately cheating and making an absolute balls out of sport. Im all for him challenging everyone out there. If they can all prove their innocence there`s nothing for them to worry about
batter burger
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30-Jan-2012 15:18
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Originally posted by stones_off:
Kimmage is right w@nker. His book rough ride is a pile of sh!te. It could have been good, but his ego got in the way. He seems to be under the impression that the only reason he did not win the Tour de France was because everybody else was taking drugs and he wasn`t.
That is a shockingly innacurate account of Rough Ride, have you actually read it?
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30-Jan-2012 15:30
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The funny thing was when Coughlan said the drugs issue was "a hang up of yours Paul",Kimmage got seriously offended. It reminded me of Ian O`Doherty`s hissy fit reaction to being called an alcoholic by the muslims.Kimmage is a fantastic interviewer in the papers, asks great question and really probes the interviewee,for e.g. his interviews with Roy Keane in 2002 were compelling and his books aswell were top class,I loved Tony Cascarino`s story. But he is beginning to ruin this show big time, haranguing guests and coming across as incredibly arrogant "You should do your research Eamonn". Every topic he brings back to cheating/drugs in sport. Of course it is a massive issue but if that is all the show talks about, then it is ignoring the often wondeful tales in sport and this show seemed to specialise in bringing little heard wonder stories to light.
stones_off
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30-Jan-2012 15:35
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Originally posted by batter burger:
That is a shockingly innacurate account of Rough Ride, have you actually read it?
Of course I`ve read it.
He seems to ignore the fact the he spent his time missing training while hanging around coffee shops. He even has a go at somebody who rides a Trek bike, that it somehow aligns you with Armstrong.
Hate Walsh too. He`s a right bully.
Limk73
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30-Jan-2012 19:55
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I`d agree Kimmage is starting to take over the show and I`ve found I don`t watch it as much as I used too.Always the same agenda with him..you can just tell he is waiting for the opportunity to bring up drugs in sport. It always come back to drugs with him.In saying that I`ve read his books and found them very entertaining..its just himself and David Walsh to a lesser degree only seem interested in drug cheats.
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30-Jan-2012 21:09
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Kimmage come across as a pain in the hole. He is right to push the agenda about the drugs but Brian Kerr nearly told him to ____ off on the program one night and he would have been well within his rights.
Roberto Jordan
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30-Jan-2012 22:10
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Originally posted by theface2010:
Slightly off topic but after hearing Eamon Coughlan of Matt Cooper last Friday week, he is a pretty big fan of himself-he also referred to himself in the 3rd person a few times. Ger Hartman came across the same way. It must be down to the psychology of the sport that you build your confidence up by telling yourself you`re the best or is that unfair on other athletes-Sonia never came across that way.
Interesting point, I posted on this site befoe that the most arrogant/ self absorbed interviewee I ever heard was one on newstalk with Ronnie delaney. I think it definately is linked to the psychology of inidividual sports.....this is on teh one hand the pro and also the con of such sports......on teh one hand a child, for example, may get teh slef confidence or belief to succeed elsewhere in life on the other hand if we all thought that way the world would be an anarchic nightmare ( or a bigger one than it is.... )
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Maybe Kimmage is on the ball and is asking questions that people dont want to hear.
People prefer idealism rather than the truth sometimes
Originally posted by geronimo:
Kimmage absolutely ruined my enjoyment of an Interview with Eamonn Coughlan on last nights iTalkSport. Coughlan was going to talk about his trip to an Irish Priest in Kenya who coaches lots of the great Kenyan runners for the last 30 years..
How the Kenyans train, their lifestyle and so forth.. What does Kimmage do? Straight away he is asking Coughlan do blood testers visit the centre and then into the doping situation in athletics.
So Coughlan never got to speak in depth about all the interesting things about the Kenyans. Just ended up with Kimmage going on and on about doping. he needs to get a grip and be a bit more balanced, hes a great writer but loses it when it comes to doping.
I thought he was bad enough last weekend with the attack on Ian O`Riordan on the same issue on drugs in sport.
Granted athletes do take drugs, but Coughlan wanted to talk about the purity of the sport. Coughlan is a well respected man of high integrity, and should not have been treated as bad as Kimmage did so last night
cerebus
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30-Jan-2012 22:51
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He`s be rightly.. ahem... P!ssed off when them doped up Kenyans start taking cycling seriously and win De Tour.
geronimo
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31-Jan-2012 10:34
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Maybe Kimmage is on the ball and is asking questions that people dont want to hear.
People prefer idealism rather than the truth sometimes
yeah maybe he is. a lot of questions need to be asked, and indeed answers in the case of drugs/doping. But this is two weeks in a row that Kimmage has let his personal feelings dominate his professionalism. I know he is a fantastic writer, but it seems to be a recurring theme where his personal grudge against drugs has dominated the conversation.
He should work with the World Anti Doping Association (WADA ) if he feels so passionate about drugs
cityoftribes
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31-Jan-2012 11:12
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Maybe Kimmage is on the ball and is asking questions that people dont want to hear.
People prefer idealism rather than the truth sometimes
You have a point, but I think what people are saying here is that, what was always a really good insightful show that covered a range of sports, is turning into a one man crusade with a recurrinig theme regardless of who the guests are or what the sport/topic being discussed is. There is more to sports than a drugs problem.
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31-Jan-2012 13:15
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Originally posted by stones_off:
Kimmage is right w@nker. His book rough ride is a pile of sh!te. It could have been good, but his ego got in the way. He seems to be under the impression that the only reason he did not win the Tour de France was because everybody else was taking drugs and he wasn`t.
I`ve read rough Ride & I got the exact opposite impression.
He fully admits that he went from being a good amateur to an average professional & his main job with his pro teams was to ride for the team leader. He new that was his level & had no expectations of winning the tour. Was just happy to finish it.
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