Originally posted by flyinghigh:
Its been well documented how John Allen won an All Ireland on the back of Donal O Grady`s work and an outstanding Cork team.But luck followed him this season by Limerick having to remain in division two.Imagine the outcry that would happen from the huge defeats we would ship if we were facing any division one team.Two wins from four games in division 2 shows where we are at and Martin Kiely spoke a lot of sense in his column this week about the lack of vision that prevails in Limerick.Does Allen really think our defence as it stands is good enough for the c.ship. What alternatives has he in mind when not if we get cruelly exposed when we meet better opposition? Luck wont be much of an ally then.

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
I thought that O`Grady would bring luck to us last year, and felt that he was the type of manager who could get us over the line in games we were losing by a point such as the Waterford game last year.

Being a lucky manager doesnt mean that you bring luck to Limerick!!!

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:


Being a lucky manager doesnt mean that you bring luck to Limerick!!!

Originally posted by Larkin:
Kielys article is mentioned here. What he says has a ring of truth to it but because of who it is saying it, the article will not be taken seriously.

Originally posted by Lanfranco Dettori:


What a pathetic thing to say. No wonder Limerick hurling is where it is when you have petty little grudges rolling along all the time

Originally posted by Lanfranco Dettori:
What a pathetic thing to say. No wonder Limerick hurling is where it is when you have petty little grudges rolling along all the time

Originally posted by flyinghigh:
Its been well documented how John Allen won an All Ireland on the back of Donal O Grady`s work and an outstanding Cork team.But luck followed him this season by Limerick having to remain in division two.Imagine the outcry that would happen from the huge defeats we would ship if we were facing any division one team.Two wins from four games in division 2 shows where we are at and Martin Kiely spoke a lot of sense in his column this week about the lack of vision that prevails in Limerick.Does Allen really think our defence as it stands is good enough for the c.ship. What alternatives has he in mind when not if we get cruelly exposed when we meet better opposition? Luck wont be much of an ally then.

Originally posted by flyinghigh:
IS JOHN ALLEN A LUCKY MANAGER?

Originally posted by Lanfranco Dettori:


Why the outcry after a few league matches

Originally posted by Sa Bhaile:

We must stay calm!

Originally posted by Sa Bhaile:

We must stay calm!

Originally posted by clubgaa:
Kiely is a digrace as a journalist and why the Limerick Leader keep him on I will never know. He re-writes the same drivel weekly and lost all respect from real GAA people when he sold his "Justin" interview to the Examiner.

Originally posted by Larkin:


He sells papers, pure and simple. That is all he has to do to get a full page devoted to himself every week. To be fair to him he usually backs up everything he says and doesn`t hide behind anyone or anything.

Originally posted by clubgaa:
Sorry Larkin but I cant agree with you. Kiely hid behind the Leader when he slated a Limerick hurler and took his charactor during the Justin days. Kiely took all the gossip from the delegates and hangers on at the county board and then went on a rampage of abuse about one player but did`nt have the guts to name him. I dont think many buy the leader because of his column, as all he is doing at this stage is re-hashing the same rubbish over and over.

Originally posted by clangera:


Kiely`s carry-on during the Justin debacle was frankly scandalous. He was wetting himself with excitement with every titbit of bull\\ he was scribbling in the Leader and only delighted that Limerick hurling had such problems. He has zero credibility with any of the players and I wonder now has he fallen out with the CB - he seems to be taking potshots at them non-stop these days. He hadnt much to say about them when he was backing up Justin. Whilst I`d agree with his broader points these days about structures in Limerick and long-term plans, Kiely`s main agenda is to stir \\.

Originally posted by Larkin:


He sells papers, pure and simple. That is all he has to do to get a full page devoted to himself every week. To be fair to him he usually backs up everything he says and doesn`t hide behind anyone or anything.