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Grand National
notrealdan
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13-Apr-2012 00:06
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Following on from my correct prediction in the Irish national,let me now unveil the winner of the Aintree grand national.
Chicago Grey @ 14-1
jaorta
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13-Apr-2012 05:46
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Originally posted by notrealdan:
Following on from my correct prediction in the Irish national,let me now unveil the winner of the Aintree grand national.Chicago Grey @ 14-1
DEEP PURPLE @ 66-1(ew)
loughcurraman
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13-Apr-2012 08:32
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Originally posted by notrealdan:
Following on from my correct prediction in the Irish national,let me now unveil the winner of the Aintree grand national.Chicago Grey @ 14-1
Fancy that myself. Had already planned to back it. Thought it might be a bigger price than that though.
The Boo
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13-Apr-2012 08:42
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I'm going for Vic Venturi myself, his 3rd attempt at the race, brought down the last 2 years when travelling well. Heard an interview with Dessie Hughes and according to him Vic and Black Applachi are bouncing at home. So fingers crossed at 100/1 in Williamhill.
Lanfranco Dettori
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13-Apr-2012 09:46
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Cappa Bleu and Killyglen, both e/w obviously
gaillimh2000
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13-Apr-2012 13:38
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Originally posted by notrealdan:
Following on from my correct prediction in the Irish national,let me now unveil the winner of the Aintree grand national.Chicago Grey @ 14-1
I'll second that, backed him a few weeks ago at 25/1. I've also a bit on Rare Bob e/w at 40/1
plain vanilla
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13-Apr-2012 14:09
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Treacle, Rare Bob, and State of Play e/w for me...
cnoc16
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13-Apr-2012 14:41
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Neptune Collonges, Black Apalachi & Seabass my e/w shouts
KickingKing
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13-Apr-2012 17:09
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So tough to call but I'll try Giles Cross and maybe Sunnyhillboy
Hitch
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13-Apr-2012 23:25
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A good tip for the national tomorrow... Ronseal, it goes well over fences.
carryharry
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13-Apr-2012 23:39
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Originally posted by Hitch:
A good tip for the national tomorrow... Ronseal, it goes well over fences.
Don't you ever stop Hitch.
Hitch
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14-Apr-2012 18:50
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Didn't Synchronised make a real dogs dinner of the Grand National?
carryharry
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14-Apr-2012 18:54
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Originally posted by cnoc16:
Neptune Collonges, Black Apalachi & Seabass my e/w shouts
Great shout cnoc.
Went for Neptune Collonges and Black Apalachi €5 each way.
Seabass ran a great race too, one to watch.
Happy as a pig in sh*t this evening, CH 1 PP 0! (for a welcome change)
faldo
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14-Apr-2012 18:56
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it was a pure joke.the horse didnt want to jump!!
had sea bass backed @22's.its part owwned by a few down the road from me so i said why not!
Originally posted by Hitch:
Didn't Synchronised make a real dogs dinner of the Grand National?
blueshark22
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14-Apr-2012 19:22
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Originally posted by Hitch:
Didn't Synchronised make a real dogs dinner of the Grand National?
That is a sick comment.
BeTimberin
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14-Apr-2012 19:40
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I still cant understand why they decided to put the Gold Cup winner into the Grand National on top weight. In my view, the statement "he deserve's to take his chance" is complete bullsh1t.
If you ask me, it smells of pure greed. The horse had achieved what is effectively the pinnacle of jumps racing and they decided "sure fcuk it lets put him in here and hope things go his way aswell".
Synchronised was as tough as horse as i've seen in racing. He wasnt the most fluent or natural jumper but he'd keep battling all day for you. He did the run around before the start of the race and if you ask me he wasnt himself but they let him off anyway. Once the Gold Cup is won wouldnt you think that would be enough? Instead they unleashed him into that - you can make whatever safety changes you want to the course - that 4m 4f slog is still tough and the best of horses have been found out over those fences - im still baffled why they felt he needed to run in that and win it with the stats so far against him.
Outside of Sunnyhillboy, every other horse who finished in the top 1-10 were pretty much laid out for the race, it was largley the same last year and in recent years!
Tipsy MacStagger
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14-Apr-2012 20:05
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Originally posted by BeTimberin:
If you ask me, it smells of pure greed.
Well, that's JP McManus for you.
Pi Patel
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14-Apr-2012 20:08
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BT I absolutely agree. But I think the National Fences and the distance of the race itself are still the main issue. Every year we have the same sad cases which are lost in the 'fairytale' story of the winner. Its the most dangerous horse race in the world.
But what a tragedy for anyone who truly loves the thrill of racing. After watching such a battler as Synchronised get up that hill in Cheltenham to win arguably the greatest prize in the national hunt racing. To never watch such a champion again must leave horse racing people reevaluating the merits of the race.
Good info here from the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13034474
BeTimberin
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14-Apr-2012 20:59
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To be honest Pi Patel, i've always been a follower of the Grand National - it is the greatest horse race in the world in terms of excitement and the likes of In Compliance have proved that the 100-1 shot can get a place just as Mon Mome proved that the 100-1 shot can win.
What beats belief is that the horse who beat the best chasers in the world in Cheltenham - was put forward for this race. Regardless of how well he was and what he was capable of - i still dont understand why it was necessary to run a horse who could have gone back to defend his Gold Cup in Cheltenham last year on merit in a race that has been cannon fodder for fallers etc. every year. Even is he didnt have to be put down, it risked a lot to his health to run him in an effective cavalry charge over the biggest obstacles in jump racing.
Its different for the Ballabriggs and Neptune Collognes - these horses were laid out for this race and prepared with it in mind. Their whole year including Cheltenham week when you mention Sunnyhillboy would have been with an eye on the Grand National - for Synchronised he would have been prepared for the GC!
N16
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14-Apr-2012 22:47
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Had sunnyhillboy ew and Neptune in a sweepstake so a good day. As for the distance and the fences and the fatalities, it all happens in the first mile. That's down to the sheer number of horses running as we saw at fence 4 or 5 on the first circuit.
batter burger
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15-Apr-2012 18:39
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Originally posted by N16:
Had sunnyhillboy ew and Neptune in a sweepstake so a good day. As for the distance and the fences and the fatalities, it all happens in the first mile. That's down to the sheer number of horses running as we saw at fence 4 or 5 on the first circuit.
The first circuit was tough to watch as there was scary looking falls at every fence almost. I'm not a big racing fan but i always enjoyed the Grand National and i was heartbroken to see a beautiful animal destroyed. Two horses also died last year, surely this is too much and any owner will have to take notice, something will have to be done,
I had sunnyhillboy backed 20 euro to win so i was also financially dissapointed, great finish from the winner to be fair.
frasiercrane
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15-Apr-2012 18:50
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I only watch one horserace per year and that is the grand national and its purely out of morbid curiosity to see how many horses fall.I suspect there are a fair few more like me
Lanfranco Dettori
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15-Apr-2012 19:13
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It has been widely reported by the media that both horses died because of falls at Beecher's which is totally untrue. Syncronized fell at Beecher's but got up and ran on and actually fell when loose which was when he suffered his injury. According To Pete was brought down by another horse that fell in front of him and had actually cleared the fence well. The media are reporting it in a sensationalist way because it sounds better than what actually happened
The Dude
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15-Apr-2012 19:18
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It was sad to see the two horses put down alright but that's the nature of the game. These horses are bred to race and there's no way of eliminating the risk involved. Deaths at the grand national are highlighted more due to the high interest in the race. A horse called gottany o's was put down earlier in the week at Aintree after breaking his leg coming round a turn and not a word was said about it. It's just another part of the sport albeit a not very nice one.
Got Seabass e/w at 22's myself so happy enough. Lovely Ride out of Katie Walsh and i reckon 3rd was the best she was going to get over 4 miles. Definitely going to keep following that combination.
batter burger
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15-Apr-2012 19:27
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In all fairness 4 deaths in 2 runnings of the race is unacceptable, i don't want it banned but something needs to be done to make it safer particularly at the start. The media is particularly interested because of the quality of synchronised and JP McManus but it doesn't change the facts.
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