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Topic: Physical Training on a Beach
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:07
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Coming back from a knee injury, and I want to do some running on a beach to regain fitness with minimal impact from the surface on the knee.

What footwear is recommended for running on a beach, and are there any tips as regards using the sea water to aid recovery.
Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:26
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I found aquajogging brilliant when I was recovering from ankle injuries.
Larkin
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:32
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Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
I found aquajogging brilliant when I was recovering from ankle injuries.

I was going to suggest this because I was chatting with someone yesterday who had a knee injury and found this brilliant. I'm terrified of water so it will not be a solution for me.
Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:45
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How bad is the fear Larkin? Ever try a hypnotherapist?
cerebus
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:48
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
What footwear is recommended for running on a beach

Sandals....real men wear socks too.

South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:52
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How many minutes of aquajogging would do the same work as say 45 minutes of running.
Lanfranco Dettori
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Posted: 06-May-2012 13:57
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Originally posted by Larkin:
I was going to suggest this because I was chatting with someone yesterday who had a knee injury and found this brilliant. I'm terrified of water so it will not be a solution for me.

How do you wash yourself
blueblaa
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Posted: 06-May-2012 14:03
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Only run on beaches that are relatively flat ... a steep camber can really put pressure on ankles and knees.
Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 14:06
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Dont know about that. I used to do an hour of it at a time, was always pretty wrecked after so it definitely benefited me. Was great for my back aswell.
cerebus
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Posted: 06-May-2012 14:14
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Originally posted by Lanfranco Dettori:
How do you wash yourself

Probably with one of those waterless car washes.
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 14:37
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An hour would be very tedious. How many times would you go across the pool in an hour??

Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
Dont know about that. I used to do an hour of it at a time, was always pretty wrecked after so it definitely benefited me. Was great for my back aswell.

Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 15:05
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I did it in UL so I went into one of the lanes and went from shallow to deep end and back numerous times. Cant remember how many but it used to take about 1-2 min to get from one end to the other.Its hard work and you're not moving very fast. There's a clock at the deep end in UL and it and I tried not to look at it too often as it went slower if I did! Met Jean Butler of Riverdance fame in the steam room after one session so it wasnt all boring!
cerebus
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Posted: 06-May-2012 15:17
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Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
I did it in UL so I went into one of the lanes and went from shallow to deep end and back numerous times. Cant remember how many .... Met Jean Butler of Riverdance fame in the steam room after one session so it wasnt all boring!

Never mind the widths..feel the lengths, apparently.

South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 15:27
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How deep is the deep end in UL??

Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
I did it in UL so I went into one of the lanes and went from shallow to deep end and back numerous times. Cant remember how many but it used to take about 1-2 min to get from one end to the other.Its hard work and you're not moving very fast. There's a clock at the deep end in UL and it and I tried not to look at it too often as it went slower if I did! Met Jean Butler of Riverdance fame in the steam room after one session so it wasnt all boring!

KeepOnHurling
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Posted: 06-May-2012 15:33
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Originally posted by cerebus:
Probably with one of those waterless car washes.

haven't you ever heard of dry cleaners ?

Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 15:43
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Dont have a clue. Two metres maybe? You'll have an aquajogger belt tied around your waist which keeps you afloat so it doesnt matter what the depth is. Your head is the only thing thats above the surface. They used to lend the belts to people at the pool but I think you've to buy you're own now.
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 18:35
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This could be a far better option so, fitness gained without any stress on the body. How did you find your running fitness after this????

Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
Dont have a clue. Two metres maybe? You'll have an aquajogger belt tied around your waist which keeps you afloat so it doesnt matter what the depth is. Your head is the only thing thats above the surface. They used to lend the belts to people at the pool but I think you've to buy you're own now.

Hitch
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Posted: 06-May-2012 18:40
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This would be more like my idea of getting "physicule" (as they say on GAA Beo) on a beach.

It kept Burt fairly toned up anyway!



Habanerocat
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Posted: 06-May-2012 21:22
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These are the boys you need!



http://runningshoeswithtoesx.com/shoes-that-look-like-feet/
manfromdelmonte
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Posted: 06-May-2012 21:30
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aqua jogging is your only job - most public pools have the special belts for them
along with some 'light' cycling - as in easy gears

when you go back running, your leg muscles will seize up due to the atrophy of the muscles after surgery.
you will need a good and cheap physio and a good stretching routine
trust me
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 21:41
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Well used to coming back after injury so I know the drill

However in this case, I am attempting to build back the fitness early without causing any stress to the joint. Running on the road or on a pitch given that there is a dry spell on the way would leave me in bits. Therefore I considered the beach, however the aquajogging seems to be the best job provided that it actually helps me with running fitness.

A runner told me once, that the only way to get fit for grass was to train on grass. Will be interesting to see for myself how aquajogging compares.

Originally posted by manfromdelmonte:
aqua jogging is your only job - most public pools have the special belts for them
along with some 'light' cycling - as in easy gearswhen you go back running, your leg muscles will seize up due to the atrophy of the muscles after surgery.
you will need a good and cheap physio and a good stretching routine
trust me

manfromdelmonte
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Posted: 06-May-2012 22:04
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I had the knee done few years back

few sessions of aqua jogging a week brought me back to team training as fit as anyone. you can either do it at a steady pace or as intervals - 30 secs intense jogging

it also returned better flexion in the knee joint and i reckon it improved my running technique as you really have to work the arms and focus on leg movement - high knees
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 22:08
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I assume the 30 seconds stuff is better geared toward sprint fitness and therefore is better. How long in total per session. How long did you spend at the 30 seconds stuff? Did you combine it with steady pace jogging in the same session??

I assume that to balance properly in yourself in the water, it creates good core stability.


Originally posted by manfromdelmonte:
I had the knee done few years backfew sessions of aqua jogging a week brought me back to team training as fit as anyone. you can either do it at a steady pace or as intervals - 30 secs intense joggingit also returned better flexion in the knee joint and i reckon it improved my running technique as you really have to work the arms and focus on leg movement - high knees

Comic Book Guy
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Posted: 06-May-2012 22:11
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SLR,
I never really followed a particular programme when I was doing the aquajogging but my base fitness was always quite good and this seemed to maintain it. Nothing scientific about my approach, I just kept going til the body told me it needed a break! You'll sweat more than normal due to the heat of the water so drink plenty of water.
Edited due to the fact that 'mairegangaired' came up when I used another word for very tired eg ken-ackered. ???
This message has been edited - 06-may-2012 @ 22:13
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-May-2012 22:17
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My base fitness shouldnt be too bad. At the start of the year, we were doing a 5km road run on a local hill for soccer training, and a good few sprints on the steep part of the hill. Since I got injured I have been on the bike, but while the bike strengthens the legs, it doesnt really prepare you for say 50m sprints in training. Thats why I am interested in the 30 seconds of intensity from manfromdelmonte

The trouble is that when I get injured the sweet tooth breaks out

Originally posted by Comic Book Guy:
SLR,
I never really followed a particular programme when I was doing the aquajogging but my base fitness was always quite good and this seemed to maintain it. Nothing scientific about my approach, I just kept going til I was xxed! You'll sweat more than normal due to the heat of the water so drink plenty of water.


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