Mobile Version  |  Register  |  Login
home  |  speak out!  |  content zone archives  |  "speak out!" archives  |  vote on it  |  soap opera  |  pub crawl  |  links  |  contact us  |  search  
 Follow us! 
Speak Out! - Gaelic Games
Notices
"Speak Out!" Home  |  Topic Listing  |  Post New Topic  |  Post Reply
Yesterday's HOT topics  |  Today's HOT topics
 |  Jump to:  
First 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Last
Select a page:   PageSize:   Page 1 of 18
Topic: LIMERICKv TIPP Munster hurling quarter final 2012
flyinghigh
(112 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 00:46
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Lots of people expected Cork to overcome depleted Kilkenny today,but the Cats again showed their class easily brushing light weight Cork aside.I think this augurs well for Limerick in 3 weeks time in that Munster hurling may not be as strong as we thought and there is no reason we cant turn over Tipperary in Thurles.While we could do without the Ciaran Carey resigning issue and the allegations of poor training methods, lets not forget that Tipp have the Lar Corbett issue and rumours abound of players not totally happy with a high ranking member of their management team.Our team will probably not vary much from what we saw in the league and I would hope that Condon not Geary would start at full back.I also think we would be better served having Dodge restored to midfield but finding a better centre back than him may not be easy.Hickey just doesnt look at home there and Gavin O Mahony never bedded in there.Could there be any surprise inclusions in a team with nothing to lose against a Tipp side that looked so poor against Cork. And looked what happened to them.!
This message has been edited - 07-may-2012 @ 20:09
Larkin
(4,404 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 00:52
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I met a man today, who stood in the rain as a young boy in '73 and cannot recall a match since then that he has missed. For the first time he is deliberately not going to a Limerick game. I suspect that this will be the attitude of a lot of people.
Blanco
(7,909 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 00:56
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
The year has flown by , only 3 weeks now to the start of the championship.

I assume Hannon will play for Limerick , I don't think Bonner Maher will make it for Tipp as he is just back doing any kind of training last week and for his type of game he needs to be in top shape fitness wise, other than that there is a few worries about the fitness of Paul Curran , Paddy Stapleton and Donagh Maher.

Not putting down Limerick but a defeat here would plunge the current Tipp set up into crisis mode , as we are playing at home and would be considered further down the road in the development of the team than Limerick are with theirs.

I expect Tipp will win but not by a big score , its's the results that matter in these matches , the phony wars are over.

It will be interesting to see if Eoin Kelly starts for Tipp , if not then it would seem as if we are coming to an end of an era in Tipp for one of the greatest players ever to wear the blue and gold.



This message has been edited - 07-may-2012 @ 00:57
Blanco
(7,909 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 00:58
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Larkin:
I met a man today, who stood in the rain as a young boy in '73 and cannot recall a match since then that he has missed. For the first time he is deliberately not going to a Limerick game. I suspect that this will be the attitude of a lot of people.

Why is this , because of what is perceived to be going on in the Limerick setup or just the economic times we are in?

Turenne
(1,088 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 00:58
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Larkin:
I met a man today, who stood in the rain as a young boy in '73 and cannot recall a match since then that he has missed. For the first time he is deliberately not going to a Limerick game. I suspect that this will be the attitude of a lot of people.

Sounds completely over the top.
Larkin
(4,404 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 01:06
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Blanco:
Why is this , because of what is perceived to be going on in the Limerick setup or just the economic times we are in?

I don't want to sound all Martin Kiely-like ( a man rang me during the week) but it is genuine. This man has followed Limerick through thick and thin but he has had enough of the politics and in-fighting. Yes, there might be a bit of the recession in his reasoning, but I know him well and for him to say he is not going is tragic situation with no winners. I wonder how many more Limerick followers will do likewise? I have to say, and I hope to be able to go to Thurles, that I have not felt as despondent about Limerick's chances in a long time. They were badly prepared throughout the league and if that has not changed then Tipp will eat Limerick alive.
Time!!!
(901 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 01:21
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Not going on Cork's performance today and I know Limerick have their own concerns but I have a sneaky feeling that Limerick will make the Munster final. Have been to quite a few of the Limerick games and if they have a full compliment of players available, have continuoulsy improved in the fitness area etc I'd expect them to just about beat Tipp & Cork.
flyinghigh
(112 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 19:33
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Larkin,I can see where that man coming from but I believe a huge Limerick crowd will travel to Thurles.While I think we can win that I dont reckon we have what it takes to topple Cork in semi.They not as bad as they appeared yest and will learn from the experience.
Blanco
(7,909 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 19:41
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by flyinghigh:
Larkin,I can see where that man coming from but I believe a huge Limerick crowd will travel to Thurles.While I think we can win that I dont reckon we have what it takes to topple Cork in semi.They not as bad as they appeared yest and will learn from the experience.

Would it be best for limerick if they eased on Tipp near the end rather than dishing out a trimming , therefore the press won't be going in to overdrive about Limericks chances against Cork, and less pressure on the players.
Lanfranco Dettori
(193 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 19:46
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Blanco:

Would it be best for limerick if they eased on Tipp near the end rather than dishing out a trimming , therefore the press won't be going in to overdrive about Limericks chances against Cork, and less pressure on the players.

I would expect that when they get 10 points up they will drive on to go 20 points up and so on and so on
theblack&amber
(593 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 20:37
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Not sure Limerick are good enough to compete with Tipp in any ground, never mind Thurles. I have to hand it Limerick fans, if every county had the belief (some would say unrealistic and full of fantasy) in their county as Limerick fans have in theirs the GAA would be in much better shape.

Tipp didn't look their best in the league but still have the players and experience to beat Limerick out the gate. I can see Limerick giving Tipp a game, but no more than that, Tipp at championship level are too good for them, and a Tipp on form only Kilkenny would fancy taking them.

Also the fact the game is in Thurles in front of their own, the fact they have to lay down a marker for themselves and to everyone else and that there's question marks over them should see Tipp massively fired up for this one. In that situation I can only see a Tipp win.

I'm also of the opinion if Tipp don't win this one, they can kiss their championship ambitions goodbye.
This message has been edited - 07-may-2012 @ 20:38
rebelrebel30
(8,531 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 21:06
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by flyinghigh:
Lots of people expected Cork to overcome depleted Kilkenny today,but the Cats again showed their class easily brushing light weight Cork aside.I think this augurs well for Limerick in 3 weeks time in that Munster hurling may not be as strong as we thought and there is no reason we cant turn over Tipperary in Thurles.While we could do without the Ciaran Carey resigning issue and the allegations of poor training methods, lets not forget that Tipp have the Lar Corbett issue and rumours abound of players not totally happy with a high ranking member of their management team.Our team will probably not vary much from what we saw in the league and I would hope that Condon not Geary would start at full back.I also think we would be better served having Dodge restored to midfield but finding a better centre back than him may not be easy.Hickey just doesnt look at home there and Gavin O Mahony never bedded in there.Could there be any surprise inclusions in a team with nothing to lose against a Tipp side that looked so poor against Cork. And looked what happened to them.!

I dont think you can really read a form line through Tipp losing to Cork who in turn lost to Kilkenny..thats too simple. I cant see anything other than a Tipp win at this stage..all logic points to it..but then when did Logic every come into Munster championship hurling. Still...Tipp by 6/7pts to set up semi final clash with Cork.
rebelrebel30
(8,531 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 21:10
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Time!!!:
Not going on Cork's performance today and I know Limerick have their own concerns but I have a sneaky feeling that Limerick will make the Munster final. Have been to quite a few of the Limerick games and if they have a full compliment of players available, have continuoulsy improved in the fitness area etc I'd expect them to just about beat Tipp & Cork.

Your well entitled to your views but i couldnt agree one bit. Cant see any logic for that analysis at all. Whatever about Cork and to be honest we are ahead of Limerick in my view, Tipp are way further down the line than Limerick..they have been in the last 3 all irelands, seriously cant see how you think they will turn over Tipp. Limerick are well behind the level needed to reach 3 all irelands in a row. That just doesnt happen overnight.

Jimmy Conway
(364 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 22:27
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Larkin:
I don't want to sound all Martin Kiely-like ( a man rang me during the week) but it is genuine. This man has followed Limerick through thick and thin but he has had enough of the politics and in-fighting. Yes, there might be a bit of the recession in his reasoning, but I know him well and for him to say he is not going is tragic situation with no winners. I wonder how many more Limerick followers will do likewise? I have to say, and I hope to be able to go to Thurles, that I have not felt as despondent about Limerick's chances in a long time. They were badly prepared throughout the league and if that has not changed then Tipp will eat Limerick alive.

Strange that he chooses now not to go, surely things were worse during the strike for the debacle in Cork? I think we're in a better state now than we were back then.

ljk
(117 Posts)
Posted: 07-May-2012 23:53
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by theblack&amber:
Not sure Limerick are good enough to compete with Tipp in any ground, never mind Thurles. I have to hand it Limerick fans, if every county had the belief (some would say unrealistic and full of fantasy) in their county as Limerick fans have in theirs the GAA would be in much better shape.Tipp didn't look their best in the league but still have the players and experience to beat Limerick out the gate. I can see Limerick giving Tipp a game, but no more than that, Tipp at championship level are too good for them, and a Tipp on form only Kilkenny would fancy taking them.Also the fact the game is in Thurles in front of their own, the fact they have to lay down a marker for themselves and to everyone else and that there's question marks over them should see Tipp massively fired up for this one. In that situation I can only see a Tipp win.I'm also of the opinion if Tipp don't win this one, they can kiss their championship ambitions goodbye.

in fairness B AND A most limk supporters live in the real world and only too well know our limitations,other than that it would be hard to disagree with anything else you said.Unfortunately for me as a gaa man too many games are played here and though there are pockets we need more players from the city.Worse still in the unlikely chance we beat tipp we'll be facing a cork side starving for redemption,as i firmly believe cork still have a big say in this years championship.
Time!!!
(901 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 18:13
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
Your well entitled to your views but i couldnt agree one bit. Cant see any logic for that analysis at all. Whatever about Cork and to be honest we are ahead of Limerick in my view, Tipp are way further down the line than Limerick..they have been in the last 3 all irelands, seriously cant see how you think they will turn over Tipp. Limerick are well behind the level needed to reach 3 all irelands in a row. That just doesnt happen overnight.

Where did you get the idea from my post that it was an analysis? Its a hunch! A brief summary of my opinion on this would be:
Tipp seem to be starting out similar to 2010 and Cork caught them so why not Limerick?
Cork are in transition and Limerick have improved since last year with the younger guys coming on leaps and bounds. My own county only caught them because Limerick ran out of steam for the last 15 minutes.
Limerick gave Dublin and Waterford a good run for their money last year.
A full compliment of players available to Limerick with the team firing on all cylinders, their fitness levels improved etc then my hunch would be to give Limerick the nod.
rebelrebel30
(8,531 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 18:27
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by Time!!!:
Where did you get the idea from my post that it was an analysis? Its a hunch! A brief summary of my opinion on this would be:
Tipp seem to be starting out similar to 2010 and Cork caught them so why not Limerick?
Cork are in transition and Limerick have improved since last year with the younger guys coming on leaps and bounds. My own county only caught them because Limerick ran out of steam for the last 15 minutes.
Limerick gave Dublin and Waterford a good run for their money last year.
A full compliment of players available to Limerick with the team firing on all cylinders, their fitness levels improved etc then my hunch would be to give Limerick the nod.

Ok sorry its your hunch - .Whatever way you look at it and again like everyone your entitled to your view but i think your well off if you think a Limerick team that have ploughed all spring in D2 will suddendly catch a team thats conditioned and to be honest hurling wise they have the better hurlers and have being in the last 3 all irelands

Tipp have won all irelands and munsters in the last 3 years..Limerick are years behind that in their development compared to that. It would be monumental shock if it was anyting other than a Tipp win. I wouldnt make Comparisons with Cork in 2010 - Cork were playing D1 hurling and had reached that years league final so at least were used to more top level matches.
lopper
(1,990 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 20:54
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Tipp should have enough for us alright. Back in the dizzay coming in under the radar with such little optimism would be exactly the kind of scenario where Limerick would do the business, but in this day and age of near-professionalism I wouldn't count that as a big factor. The one thing I would say is that I do feel there's another level to Limerick yet this year, provided the fitness is being worked on (and for Allen's sake, you'd hope this 'concentrating on championship' aspect comes to play in some way or other) and the right team is picked, with a full compliment of players. We haven't been at full strength with the likes of Hannon and Hickey out for the spring. Competition for the forwards is fierce, which is excellent, but the management faces a huge dilemma as regards defence: go with what was tested extensively during the league (and didn't inspire confidence) or go with what would be many people's gut instinct and a format that hasn't been really tried out. To add to our worries the normally solid Limerick half-back line has given us some headaches this year so far and to be quite honest I have no idea who'll be at centre-back: I would probably favour Seamus Hickey at the moment, but I feel he could well be needed in the full-back line yet. All in all the team seems fairly unsettled - it's a young team and hopefully there's more young players coming through so a little bit of patience may not go ar strae.

Just reading on the Cork opinions here, last year I would have not put much between Cork and Limerick, but this year Cork have had the benefit of Div 1A hurling and are more settled so you would have to put them above us. I don't think there's much between us potential wise, and there could be fantastic battles in the next few years, but JBM has hit the ground running in the league.

South Limerick Referee
(16,613 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 21:22
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
I thought you said you were banned!!!

Originally posted by lopper:
Tipp should have enough for us alright. Back in the dizzay coming in under the radar with such little optimism would be exactly the kind of scenario where Limerick would do the business, but in this day and age of near-professionalism I wouldn't count that as a big factor. The one thing I would say is that I do feel there's another level to Limerick yet this year, provided the fitness is being worked on (and for Allen's sake, you'd hope this 'concentrating on championship' aspect comes to play in some way or other) and the right team is picked, with a full compliment of players. We haven't been at full strength with the likes of Hannon and Hickey out for the spring. Competition for the forwards is fierce, which is excellent, but the management faces a huge dilemma as regards defence: go with what was tested extensively during the league (and didn't inspire confidence) or go with what would be many people's gut instinct and a format that hasn't been really tried out. To add to our worries the normally solid Limerick half-back line has given us some headaches this year so far and to be quite honest I have no idea who'll be at centre-back: I would probably favour Seamus Hickey at the moment, but I feel he could well be needed in the full-back line yet. All in all the team seems fairly unsettled - it's a young team and hopefully there's more young players coming through so a little bit of patience may not go ar strae.Just reading on the Cork opinions here, last year I would have not put much between Cork and Limerick, but this year Cork have had the benefit of Div 1A hurling and are more settled so you would have to put them above us. I don't think there's much between us potential wise, and there could be fantastic battles in the next few years, but JBM has hit the ground running in the league.

GearBrylls
(53 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 22:24
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Lads, is there any word on Hannon? Is he back training?
absent
(1,452 Posts)
Posted: 08-May-2012 23:23
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
This is a huge game for Limerick and a steep learning curve.Tipp are still smarting from their AI final loss of 2011 and their perceived inadequate intensity in that game and indeed the lambasting they are rumoured to have received from the management team in the dressingroom after the final.

I see on another website where young Adrian Ryan has broken his collar bone during a collision at training,there will be no lacking in intensity against Limerick,I'd imagine.

As a Limerick supporter I would be happy if the team performed and stayed with Tipp for much of the game but I do not expect a Limerick win.

There are serious inadequacies in the Limerick full back line which could be severely punished by Tipps full forward line.Our wing backs also need to up their game.On the plus side we have some scoring forwards but we have to get the ball into them.

It should be a great day for the game of hurling and I hope to be there,Limerick have no fear of Tipp,we could learn a bit from them though.
lopper
(1,990 Posts)
Posted: 09-May-2012 09:28
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
I thought you said you were banned!!!

Came through the back door...

Unlimited_Limerick
(876 Posts)
Posted: 09-May-2012 14:09
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
The Limerick faithfuls positivity never ceases to amaze me.

Regardless of how they performed in the league, Tipp will certainly not be short of intensity come championship. After the Cork game they'll know some things need rectifying and they'll have ample time to address any issues between here and the quarter final.

They may be without Lar but we have a weak full back line and will be a real source of trouble for us.

I think Limerick can stay with them for 60 odd minutes but I'd be pleasently surprised if Limerick finished the stronger of the two, particularily in Thurlus.

Fellas are saying we need to get the ball in to the forwards quicker but there's a bigger problem before we worry about what we do with possession... getting possession that is!! If we are to succeed we need to win more puckouts and attack the breaks more. The second half of the league final was a wash out in this area.

Needless to say goals win games, and we'll need to keep their goal count down to stand a chance. We can't do what we did against Offaly in the league and expect to get away with it.
Donohill
(732 Posts)
Posted: 09-May-2012 15:06
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Bonner Maher hurled a full challenge game last night against the u21s. Be nice to see him up against Wayne Mac.
carryharry
(4,804 Posts)
Posted: 09-May-2012 15:09
Quote   Edit   Delete   Report Post   Post Reply
Were you in at it Donohill? Any U21's make an impression?

First 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Last
Select a page:   Page 1 of 18
"Speak Out!" Home  |  Topic Listing  |  Post New Topic  |  Post Reply
Content Zone
‘We talk just like lions, but we sacrifice like lambs…’.
Whatever Happened to….
Anyone you know in your club?
Bin Tags Don't Make a County
‘Some a’ Dem’ Lads are only Dow-en for the Showers….’
Heavenly Hurling: How the Gods pass their time...
GAA Time and Real Time
Saint Patrick and the camogie princesses
Keats and Chapman at the Munster Final
Mass, the Mater, ‘The Dergvale’ and Mullingar…

More "Content Zone" Topics >>


Speak Out!

More "Speak Out!" Topics >>

There are 10,277 members signed up to anfearrua.com
All times are Dublin, Ireland. Always here... with the best in GAA discussion and comment! © An Fear Rua, 2000 - 2013
Bookmark AFR  |  Make AFR your home page About Us  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use [ Top of Page ]