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Topic: Michael Fennelly - serious injury
hurling fan
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:06
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I wondered if there was a problem with the pitch surface in Semple Stadium bearing in mind that Donal Og Cusack and Michael Fennelly picked up serious injuries there in the last two weeks. On looking back at a recording of both incidents it was hard to tell in Donal Og's case. In Michael Fennelly's case I was horrified to discover that it was in fact an attempted kick/foot-trip by a Cork player that led to his injury. A lot has been written and posted about "cynical fouls" recently but how this one was missed by people, Kilkenny people in particular, is very surprising. And if you follow on the play, at least two Kilkenny players were clearly fouled by two Cork players without any action been taken by the ref. For those who wish to view this 60 seconds of thuggery have a look in the 39/40 minutes.

We all know now that Michael Fennelly will be out of action for up to 10 weeks as a result of a cynical foul. If Croke Park don't take action over this, then the Kilkenny County Board should pursue it.

ps - I watched the Tipp v Cork semi final again and couldn't help noticing the hurley dig that Paraic Maher received from Pat Horgan and once again no action was taken.
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carryharry
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:09
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I can see this one kicking off bigtime!

Needless HF?
theface2010
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:36
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Originally posted by hurling fan:
.ps - I watched the Tipp v Cork semi final again and couldn't help noticing the hurley dig that Paraic Maher received from Pat Horgan and once again no action was taken.

I know what you mean. In every single match I've ever seen or played in there was a sly dig where no action was taken and you can go back to when I was 8 for that but you're dead right to highlight this one out of the thousands upon thousands that have gone on since 1884. You don't dislike the Cork lads by any chance do you?

KickingKing
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:36
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This type of thing has been done to death. Nit picking between Counties.

Fact of the matter is Kilkenny are the champions, after most of their games the discussion turns to this swarm defence and physically intense tackling that generally speaking has a detrimental effect on the game. But they are still champions and have some excellent hurlers and we have to deal with it, probably until Cody resigns.

Every County will have their own isolated incidents so no point dragging that up as we could be here till xmas draggin up incidents.

Roll on the Munster championship is all I say.
Anyone but FF
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:37
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Are you actually for real? Just watched it again, Lehane is chasing Fennelly and they clumsly collide legs. You can tell from the replay Lehane is clearly going for the ball but Fennellys strength carries him through the challenge. The sort of thing that happens a 100 times over in a game only unfortunetly Fennelly landed awkwardly on this occasion. Your watching far too much soccer if you think that was a foul boy!

As for the incident V Tipp. That was already discussed on the Cork V Tipp thread. Think everyone agreed it was stupid out of Hoggie so whats your agenda in bringing it up again?
hurling fan
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:46
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Originally posted by Anyone but FF:
Are you actually for real? Just watched it again, Lehane is chasing Fennelly and they clumsly collide legs. You can tell from the replay Lehane is clearly going for the ball but Fennellys strength carries him through the challenge. The sort of thing that happens a 100 times over in a game only unfortunetly Fennelly landed awkwardly on this occasion. Your watching far too much soccer if you think that was a foul boy!As for the incident V Tipp. That was already discussed on the Cork V Tipp thread. Think everyone agreed it was stupid out of Hoggie so whats your agenda in bringing it up again?

You should watch it again - no way was it a case of "they clumsly collide legs". The Cork player clearly throws out his foot/leg. I'm not saying he set out to break Fennelly's ankle but it was a cynical foul. And do go on and look at the following minute of play - would you put that down to "stupid" also? So let me get this right now - if a non-Cork player fouls, he should be carded/sent off but if it's a Cork player who fouls, it's stupid!!!

I have no agenda other than I just cant' take the likes of hard-man Gardiner moaning about fouling and Cork posters closing their eyes to their own hatchet men.
Chubba G
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Posted: 09-May-2012 14:58
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Any potential credibility your argument could have had has been lost if you're seriously referring to Lehane as a "hatchet-man".
Donohill
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Posted: 09-May-2012 15:05
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Originally posted by hurling fan:
You should watch it again - no way was it a case of "they clumsly collide legs". The Cork player clearly throws out his foot/leg. I'm not saying he set out to break Fennelly's ankle but it was a cynical foul. And do go on and look at the following minute of play - would you put that down to "stupid" also? So let me get this right now - if a non-Cork player fouls, he should be carded/sent off but if it's a Cork player who fouls, it's stupid!!! I have no agenda other than I just cant' take the likes of hard-man Gardiner moaning about fouling and Cork posters closing their eyes to their own hatchet men.

Are you accusing Cork of bringing a hurling version of the "99 call" to the game?
theblack&amber
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Posted: 09-May-2012 15:29
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Originally posted by hurling fan:
I wondered if there was a problem with the pitch surface in Semple Stadium bearing in mind that Donal Og Cusack and Michael Fennelly picked up serious injuries there in the last two weeks. On looking back at a recording of both incidents it was hard to tell in Donal Og's case. In Michael Fennelly's case I was horrified to discover that it was in fact an attempted kick/foot-trip by a Cork player that led to his injury. A lot has been written and posted about "cynical fouls" recently but how this one was missed by people, Kilkenny people in particular, is very surprising. And if you follow on the play, at least two Kilkenny players were clearly fouled by two Cork players without any action been taken by the ref. For those who wish to view this 60 seconds of thuggery have a look in the 39/40 minutes.We all know now that Michael Fennelly will be out of action for up to 10 weeks as a result of a cynical foul. If Croke Park don't take action over this, then the Kilkenny County Board should pursue it.ps - I watched the Tipp v Cork semi final again and couldn't help noticing the hurley dig that Paraic Maher received from Pat Horgan and once again no action was taken.

It was an attempted trip, if that, nothing more, there was no intent whatsoever from any Corkman to do Fennelly, it was an accidental injury,a cynical attempt it may have been to halt his run but there was absolutely no intent to injure Fennelly. If you were that horrified from such a little thing, you should probably resort to watching hockey.

The two players fouled after this, so what? Bad decisions they may have been not to give the free but its hardly the end of the world, no-one was hurt and it made no difference whatsoever to the game. And no way was it thuggery. Besides, we're quite capable of dishing it out too. In fact I'd be extremely disappointed if we weren't able to assert ourselves physically.

As for the Maher/Horgan incident you mention, I can assume from seeing Maher in the flesh that a man that size is quite capable of taking care of himself, a sneaky dig it may have been but again it wasn't much to shout about.

I honestly don't see the point of moaning about cynicism regardless of the county, as I've said before everybody does it and if you really wanted to you could pick about 20 incidents of cynicism from each county per match.

I honestly wish people would grow up, realise that hurling is a tough, contact sport, quit the moaning and enjoy the bloody sport regardless.
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side show bob
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Posted: 09-May-2012 16:00
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Theblackandamber what are you playing at, your post is spot on and sensible. You have obviously played the game. Cop yourself on with your sensible posts, the ladyboys on here will start getting hot flushes.
carryharry
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Posted: 09-May-2012 16:01
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Originally posted by side show bob:
Theblackandamber what are you playing at, your post is spot on and sensible. You have obviously played the game. Cop yourself on with your sensible posts, the ladyboys on here will start getting hot flushes.

Down with that sort of thing!

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lopper
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Posted: 09-May-2012 16:36
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Kilkenny lads must be gone soft from not playing any football.
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rebelrebel30
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Posted: 09-May-2012 19:00
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Originally posted by hurling fan:
I wondered if there was a problem with the pitch surface in Semple Stadium bearing in mind that Donal Og Cusack and Michael Fennelly picked up serious injuries there in the last two weeks. On looking back at a recording of both incidents it was hard to tell in Donal Og's case. In Michael Fennelly's case I was horrified to discover that it was in fact an attempted kick/foot-trip by a Cork player that led to his injury. A lot has been written and posted about "cynical fouls" recently but how this one was missed by people, Kilkenny people in particular, is very surprising. And if you follow on the play, at least two Kilkenny players were clearly fouled by two Cork players without any action been taken by the ref. For those who wish to view this 60 seconds of thuggery have a look in the 39/40 minutes.We all know now that Michael Fennelly will be out of action for up to 10 weeks as a result of a cynical foul. If Croke Park don't take action over this, then the Kilkenny County Board should pursue it.ps - I watched the Tipp v Cork semi final again and couldn't help noticing the hurley dig that Paraic Maher received from Pat Horgan and once again no action was taken.

Well Cork have obviously left a bitter imprint on you hurling fan. I believe your from Limerick.

Youve been peddling it for a while now..800M sprint training, now sly digs..god love ya...you werent the limerick lad who rushed onto the Thurles pitch in 2006 to reminstrate with Jerry O Connor just after half time by any chance?...best ignored this lad.
rebelrebel30
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Posted: 09-May-2012 19:03
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Originally posted by hurling fan:
You should watch it again - no way was it a case of "they clumsly collide legs". The Cork player clearly throws out his foot/leg. I'm not saying he set out to break Fennelly's ankle but it was a cynical foul. And do go on and look at the following minute of play - would you put that down to "stupid" also? So let me get this right now - if a non-Cork player fouls, he should be carded/sent off but if it's a Cork player who fouls, it's stupid!!! I have no agenda other than I just cant' take the likes of hard-man Gardiner moaning about fouling and Cork posters closing their eyes to their own hatchet men.

HAHA>..best laugh in while..." I have no agenda"..............

Turenne
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Posted: 09-May-2012 19:08
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Lehane is one of the cleanest players I've ever seen. The threadstarter is a complete coward. Some admin needs to close this immediately.
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irishmagic
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Posted: 09-May-2012 19:24
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Problem with lehane is he is not cynical. He would be better of if he got like that becuase he looked like a right cissy when the KK lads flaked him at the beginning of the match
jukka
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Posted: 09-May-2012 19:59
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This is nearly up there with the "Cadogan was trying to bite Galvin" video to the spooky music that some pathetic Kerry gombeen made up that time in 2010. Not quite, but nearly.
Hitch
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Posted: 09-May-2012 20:01
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Originally posted by irishmagic:
Problem with lehane is he is not cynical. He would be better of if he got like that becuase he looked like a right cissy when the KK lads flaked him at the beginning of the match

Isn't he lucky he wasn't around in Sylvie'a time?

Seriously though, he's a fine hurler who'll only get better as time goes on.


johnny cash
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Posted: 10-May-2012 22:11
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Kilkenny will almost certainly start without Shefflin, Power, Fennelly when they play Dublin in June. I know they made very light of the absentees v cork much to my cost at the bookies but Dublin are more accustomed to playing Kilkenny in big games than Cork now and might be better positioned to take them on physically. If Dublin's injuries come right and kilkenny's woes continue with injuries to key players dublin might not get a better chance in a while to take kilkenny
corcaighabu92
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Posted: 10-May-2012 22:17
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Have you a link to this?
Legalalien
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Posted: 11-May-2012 00:10
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Originally posted by johnny cash:
Kilkenny will almost certainly start without Shefflin, Power, Fennelly when they play Dublin in June. I know they made very light of the absentees v cork much to my cost at the bookies but Dublin are more accustomed to playing Kilkenny in big games than Cork now and might be better positioned to take them on physically. If Dublin's injuries come right and kilkenny's woes continue with injuries to key players dublin might not get a better chance in a while to take kilkenny

Would completely agree with this assessment.

Kilkenny's hardest game in the league was against the Dubs. And the Dubs have the phsyical power not to be bullied by us. It will depend on the dubs' injuries in part but this and if we even manage to get past the dubs, a galway team with joe firing could send us through the back door.

As for Mick Fennelly's injury, whilst I like annoying the rebels, you can't blame Lehane for this. It was a nothing challenge. I honestly don't even think it was an intentional trip, just one of those coming togethers that happens 100 times in any match.

And we clearly in Kilkenny don;t want the physicalness taken out of the games.... ;-)
johnny cash
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Posted: 11-May-2012 19:43
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just heard the bould ger loughnane on drivetime there. he is of similiar school of thought to you and I.

a lot of ifs and buts in our school of thought but nonetheless if dublin head down with a close to full strength team to face a weakened kilkenny team, we could have a cracking nite in Portlaoise

Originally posted by Legalalien:

Would completely agree with this assessment.Kilkenny's hardest game in the league was against the Dubs. And the Dubs have the phsyical power not to be bullied by us. It will depend on the dubs' injuries in part but this and if we even manage to get past the dubs, a galway team with joe firing could send us through the back door.As for Mick Fennelly's injury, whilst I like annoying the rebels, you can't blame Lehane for this. It was a nothing challenge. I honestly don't even think it was an intentional trip, just one of those coming togethers that happens 100 times in any match.And we clearly in Kilkenny don;t want the physicalness taken out of the games.... ;-)

Tinmar
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Posted: 11-May-2012 21:53
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Originally posted by Turenne:
Lehane is one of the cleanest players I've ever seen. The threadstarter is a complete coward. Some admin needs to close this immediately.

Have you ever made a similar plea to the Admin of the PROC site you also frequent? There's obviously no moderation at all when you see some of the comments that are allowed to remain online. One poster in particular should really be getting a visit from the guards for the vicious bile he contributes.

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