This message has been edited - 17-may-2012 @ 20:22

Originally posted by frasiercrane:
Reminds me of that case involving the fella who was caught with some pot and the parents did whatever they could to get him back in the school.They were even on the Late Late show about it.Why cant some parents just accept their children were in the wrong get them to apologise and accept their punishment.

Originally posted by Ozzy:
Wallace is just after appearing on a BBC programme about the Euro zone, some spokesman for Ireland. He's not exactly humble for a failed businessman.

Originally posted by Bressie:
I've no sympathy for the teachers.
Mocking your teachers is part and parcel of your school days.

Originally posted by theface2010:
4 young teenage lads slag their teachers-this is shocking stuff altogether! Nothing different to what anyone on this site ever did. The difference know is when we were that age and young, dumb and full of c*m we didn't have facebook to share our infantile thoughts with people. Society has much bigger problems than teenage boys slagging their teachers.

Originally posted by theface2010:
4 young teenage lads slag their teachers-this is shocking stuff altogether! Nothing different to what anyone on this site ever did. The difference know is when we were that age and young, dumb and full of c*m we didn't have facebook to share our infantile thoughts with people. Society has much bigger problems than teenage boys slagging their teachers.

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
Irish Times - Sean Flynn, Education Editor, 17/5/2012"FOUR PUPILS at Oatlands College, Dublin, have been expelled from the school after posting abusive remarks about their teachers on Facebook.
The school board of management moved to expel the four – all fifth-year students – at a specially convened meeting earlier this week.
All four have already served a 20-day suspension from the school.
The parents of the students in question are expected to appeal the expulsions under section 29 of the Education Act. Should this fail, the students will have to find another school in September.
The four posted what one source called “vile sexual allegations” about both a male and a female teacher at the school. They also made disparaging remarks about the work of one female teacher.
A teacher at the school alerted the principal, Keith Ryan, after reading the Facebook page. Mr Ryan could not be contacted last night. School board chairman Gerry Horkan – a local Fianna Fáil councillor – declined to comment.
The offensive comments were posted on a Facebook page created by one 17-year-old student and administered by three others. Last month more than 40 other students were given detention on a Saturday morning after tagging the offending material as a “like” on Facebook.
The Oatlands decision drew a mixed response last night. Some education sources said the school had little choice; others said the punishment was unduly harsh.
The appeal in the case will be heard shortly by a three-member section 29 committee, including a Department of Education inspector and two other experts. There will be separate hearings for each case.
Last year almost 50 per cent of such appeals taken by parents were successful. In all, 367 appeals were taken but close to half were withdrawn prior to hearing. In the remaining 218 cases, 95 were ruled in favour of the parents.
The Oatlands incident highlights the increasing difficulty posed by cyberbullying in schools. Six years ago the fee-paying Alexandra College suspended 14 students after they posted offensive material on Bebo.
Coincidentally, Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn will this morning open an anti-bullying forum to explore new ways of tackling cyberbullying and homophobic and other forms of bullying in schools.
Oatlands College in Stillorgan is run under the aegis of the Christian Brothers. In recent years the all-male school has seen a surge in enrolment, which has grown to over 500 pupils.
Second-level students are routinely warned about the dangers of cyberbullying as part of the Junior Cert social, personal and health education curriculum, but it receives less attention in the Leaving Cert cycle."It's no wonder these reprehensible young people are as they are when their parents are prepared to make an effort to excuse their behaviour and get them back into a school where the teachers that they so grossly defamed are still teaching. And as for the bleeding heart liberals who think the punishment too harsh? Give me a break.The parents would do better to do nothing, let it serve as a lesson to them and pay for them to go elsewhere. If they live in Mount Merrion they can probably afford it.

Originally posted by Fintan Franks:
agree to a pointA sense of humour tends to distinguish the good ones from the really dour ones who can end up not being able to communicate with pupils because they see discipline and control as priority

This message has been edited - 17-may-2012 @ 23:17

Originally posted by notrealdan:
I take it that an educated teacher like yourself created this topic with tongue in cheek.Or do you really believe that society's ills are as a result of a few youngsters acting the fool rather than as a result of the continuing greed of teachers etc who still refuse to move away from the trough.

This message has been edited - 17-may-2012 @ 23:16

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
So publicly posting "vile sexual allegations" is just slagging?I think you need to have a think about that one again.If you or I did it we'd be in court being sued.

Originally posted by theface2010:
You or I aren't 16 or 17-I said and did plenty of stupid sh1t when I was that age. Vile sexual allegations could've been calling them a "bender" or a "lesbo" or some other stupid sh1t that I wouldn't in a million years call somebody now and would hate to see anybody being called but teenage boys do stupid sh1t. The problem now is that facebook and other such social media is there and a young lad after drinking a few cans or smoking a joint might think it would be hilarious to post something like this up whereas before you just would've been saying it to your mates. To say "is it any wonder society is the way it is" in relation to this is at best a misguided attempt to defend your profession and at worse just plain idiotic.

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
No dan. I believe that society's ills are caused by people who won't take responsibility for their actions. And the parents who facilitate them.And eejits like you.

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
Without a doubt the dumbest post I've ever read on here. And I'm around since 2004.

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
No dan. I believe that society's ills are caused by people who won't take responsibility for their actions. And the parents who facilitate them.And eejits like you.

Originally posted by theface2010:
You might tell me why?

This message has been edited - 18-may-2012 @ 00:43

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
No dan. I believe that society's ills are caused by people who won't take responsibility for their actions. And the parents who facilitate them.And eejits like you.

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
Irish Times - Sean Flynn, Education Editor, 17/5/2012"FOUR PUPILS at Oatlands College, Dublin, have been expelled from the school after posting abusive remarks about their teachers on Facebook.
The school board of management moved to expel the four – all fifth-year students – at a specially convened meeting earlier this week.
All four have already served a 20-day suspension from the school.
The parents of the students in question are expected to appeal the expulsions under section 29 of the Education Act. Should this fail, the students will have to find another school in September.
The four posted what one source called “vile sexual allegations” about both a male and a female teacher at the school. They also made disparaging remarks about the work of one female teacher.
A teacher at the school alerted the principal, Keith Ryan, after reading the Facebook page. Mr Ryan could not be contacted last night. School board chairman Gerry Horkan – a local Fianna Fáil councillor – declined to comment.
The offensive comments were posted on a Facebook page created by one 17-year-old student and administered by three others. Last month more than 40 other students were given detention on a Saturday morning after tagging the offending material as a “like” on Facebook.
The Oatlands decision drew a mixed response last night. Some education sources said the school had little choice; others said the punishment was unduly harsh.
The appeal in the case will be heard shortly by a three-member section 29 committee, including a Department of Education inspector and two other experts. There will be separate hearings for each case.
Last year almost 50 per cent of such appeals taken by parents were successful. In all, 367 appeals were taken but close to half were withdrawn prior to hearing. In the remaining 218 cases, 95 were ruled in favour of the parents.
The Oatlands incident highlights the increasing difficulty posed by cyberbullying in schools. Six years ago the fee-paying Alexandra College suspended 14 students after they posted offensive material on Bebo.
Coincidentally, Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn will this morning open an anti-bullying forum to explore new ways of tackling cyberbullying and homophobic and other forms of bullying in schools.
Oatlands College in Stillorgan is run under the aegis of the Christian Brothers. In recent years the all-male school has seen a surge in enrolment, which has grown to over 500 pupils.
Second-level students are routinely warned about the dangers of cyberbullying as part of the Junior Cert social, personal and health education curriculum, but it receives less attention in the Leaving Cert cycle."It's no wonder these reprehensible young people are as they are when their parents are prepared to make an effort to excuse their behaviour and get them back into a school where the teachers that they so grossly defamed are still teaching. And as for the bleeding heart liberals who think the punishment too harsh? Give me a break.The parents would do better to do nothing, let it serve as a lesson to them and pay for them to go elsewhere. If they live in Mount Merrion they can probably afford it.

This message has been edited - 18-may-2012 @ 06:40