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Topic: Parents at games-Possessed
Public Sector Monster
(29 Posts)
Posted: 22-May-2012 18:01
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How is it that parents at kids games for club or school lose the run of themselves and become irrational, aggressive psychos? What should be done with these clowns. Im all for embarassing the s**t out of them
jim
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Posted: 22-May-2012 19:25
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Will you go away and get a life
Fintan Franks
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Posted: 22-May-2012 19:37
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Castration and leave it at that.
yankeelad
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Posted: 22-May-2012 20:11
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Originally posted by Fintan Franks:
Castration and leave it at that.
Fine and dandy but what about the woman folk

Public Sector Monster
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Posted: 22-May-2012 20:29
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Jim....one of said parents. Women can be just as bad. Being told "you are not allowed on the side line" is like waving a union jack ant John Hayes to them.
rebelrebel30
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Posted: 22-May-2012 21:53
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Originally posted by Public Sector Monster:
How is it that parents at kids games for club or school lose the run of themselves and become irrational, aggressive psychos? What should be done with these clowns. Im all for embarassing the s**t out of them

I agree, ive seen it all on the sidelines, overgrown mothers shouting and wandering on the pitch at the end to reminstrate with refs, Fathers arguing with the coach because his johnny wasnt getting enough time on the pitch, parents who never attend a training session turn up for the games and start coaching the kids from the sideline at one end of the pitch..not all are like that, but from the ages of 6/7 up to say 13/14 ..they can be nuts when the young lad is playing
Hitch
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Posted: 22-May-2012 22:02
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Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
I agree, ive seen it all on the sidelines, overgrown mothers shouting and wandering on the pitch at the end to reminstrate with refs, Fathers arguing with the coach because his johnny wasnt getting enough time on the pitch, parents who never attend a training session turn up for the games and start coaching the kids from the sideline at one end of the pitch..not all are like that, but from the ages of 6/7 up to say 13/14 ..they can be nuts when the young lad is playing

Timmy Ryan!!!!!



greendolphin
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Posted: 22-May-2012 22:31
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They're terrible here in the states. Mommy and Daddy dressing alike with some stupid t-shirt saying 'go get em big guy'.
gorgeous gus
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Posted: 22-May-2012 23:29
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The problem is these u8s to u14s games should be non-competitive and thus ruling out the lunatics roaring about their Johnny,its the coaches who put in all the time with training,matches and loads of phone calls and trying to organise everything for the next match,but it is also the coach who wants these games competitive and this is where the peoblem continues!!!!!!
JohnDillon
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Posted: 23-May-2012 09:17
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Originally posted by gorgeous gus:
The problem is these u8s to u14s games should be non-competitive and thus ruling out the lunatics roaring about their Johnny,its the coaches who put in all the time with training,matches and loads of phone calls and trying to organise everything for the next match,but it is also the coach who wants these games competitive and this is where the peoblem continues!!!!!!

I have to disagree with the proposal that U14 games should be non-competitive. Sport is competitive by nature and it teachs a lot of good things to players.

I see the non-competitive games at lower age grades at to me from U10 upwards the children themselves begin to make the games competitive. I have see adults complain about young children cheering when their teammate scores a goal/point etc.

If Adults are getting involved in a manner that is deemed unsuitable then the coaches should deal with it.

JohnneyCool
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Posted: 23-May-2012 12:02
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Originally posted by JohnDillon:
I have to disagree with the proposal that U14 games should be non-competitive. Sport is competitive by nature and it teachs a lot of good things to players.I see the non-competitive games at lower age grades at to me from U10 upwards the children themselves begin to make the games competitive. I have see adults complain about young children cheering when their teammate scores a goal/point etc.If Adults are getting involved in a manner that is deemed unsuitable then the coaches should deal with it.

I've watched and been involved in u-6, u-8, u10 go games and the children are naturally competitive and you'll never change that thankfully. they'll keep the score themselves and cheer (or not) at the end of the game. I've no issues with that, but I would have issues if managers were keeping on their strong players and not rotating them in order to win these stupid games.

Parents want to see their wee johnny playing and as long as they understand the format that everyone gets a turn in nets, in the backs, midfield, forwards, on the line and you're being fair about it then it seems ok, we'll I've never had any issues with parents complaining.

I think it U-12 up here where games are competitive, maybe some U-10, not sure!
Anyone but FF
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Posted: 23-May-2012 12:11
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Originally posted by greendolphin:
They're terrible here in the states. Mommy and Daddy dressing alike with some stupid t-shirt saying 'go get em big guy'.

Cringe
theblack&amber
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Posted: 23-May-2012 12:23
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Originally posted by JohnDillon:
I have to disagree with the proposal that U14 games should be non-competitive. Sport is competitive by nature and it teachs a lot of good things to players.

I see the non-competitive games at lower age grades at to me from U10 upwards the children themselves begin to make the games competitive. I have see adults complain about young children cheering when their teammate scores a goal/point etc.

If Adults are getting involved in a manner that is deemed unsuitable then the coaches should deal with it.

Yeah U14 should be competitive, in fact I would like to keep anything above U10 competitive.

What I think is the right way to go at young age groups (and I believe should go form the earliest age to U16), is blitzes lasting a full day, where games last 10 minutes a half and you have 6/7 games a day where every young lad gets at least 4/5 full halves of game-time.

There also seems to be a different kind of attitude at these things (and on sunny summer days a kind of carnival atmosphere) as everyone knows about getting them playing not about the winning.
Bannerabu
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Posted: 23-May-2012 12:39
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Whats this about making U14 non-competitive ?

Im agree with U12 down as it is at the moment but FFS u14 ?
Turenne
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Posted: 23-May-2012 13:11
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Originally posted by greendolphin:
They're terrible here in the states. Mommy and Daddy dressing alike with some stupid t-shirt saying 'go get em big guy'.

Ah jaysus.
Barry
(492 Posts)
Posted: 23-May-2012 15:02
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Grandparents are the worst!

The Go Games rule that all subs come on at halftime and play for the full second half is very good.

Kids are naturally competitive though and Go Games have outlived their usefulness after U-10 grade.
Public Sector Monster
(29 Posts)
Posted: 23-May-2012 19:07
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Nothing wrong with competition, the kids know who is good and who is bad at sports at that age. Making a big point of getting the lesser players on the field in conditioned games just highlights it. To stop the parents there should be no one bar the mentor on the line and everyone else behind the railing. You'll never stop shouting and roaring though. I see it this week with Cumann na mBunscoil finals, crazy
squareba11
(304 Posts)
Posted: 23-May-2012 23:43
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Get the Ref to send them outside the gate if they are being abusive. If they won't go stop the game and that should get rid of them. Won't take long for them to learn after that. Probably not the referee's job but will make life easier in the long run.
Bannerabu
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Posted: 23-May-2012 23:52
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Iv seen a situation where an u14 game was abandoned because a parent refused to leave the pitch despite appeals from team coach, club officials and other parents. His own son left the pitch in tears over the incident.
Barry
(492 Posts)
Posted: 24-May-2012 09:29
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The laughable thing about Cumann na mBunscoil finals is that teachers will play their strongest team to win and only bring on the subs at the very end which is in clear breach of Go Games rules.

If we did that in U12 club games we'd be in hot water not only with the Board but with the parents too.

Don't know how they get away with it.
bully bull
(130 Posts)
Posted: 24-May-2012 10:57
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Aren't u12 and Go Games different competitions tho i.e. u12 is competitive and Go Games non-competitive? If they are then it is alot easier to bring on a lad in the Go Games as the result dosent matter.

busdriver
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Posted: 24-May-2012 11:29
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we are currently training 34 under 10s and thankfully so far weve had little problem with parental interference.
at the start of the year we made a determined effort to get the parents involved more with the club and avoid the age old baby sitting servive.
to that end we have parents first aid trained ,carrying water bottles,coaching,providing transport and catering post match/blitz.
in addition to the NO HELMET NO HURLING signs we also have a SUPPORT OR SHHH sign specifically for the underage games which has worked well so far
come on the banner
Barry
(492 Posts)
Posted: 24-May-2012 11:30
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Originally posted by bully bull:
Aren't u12 and Go Games different competitions tho i.e. u12 is competitive and Go Games non-competitive? If they are then it is alot easier to bring on a lad in the Go Games as the result dosent matter.

No,Go Games rules apply to U8,U10 & U12 club games and are supposed to apply to primary schools games too.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me on the subject feel free to coorect me.

spot_the_dog
(189 Posts)
Posted: 24-May-2012 11:49
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Originally posted by Barry:
The laughable thing about Cumann na mBunscoil finals is that teachers will play their strongest team to win and only bring on the subs at the very end which is in clear breach of Go Games rules.If we did that in U12 club games we'd be in hot water not only with the Board but with the parents too.Don't know how they get away with it.

In Dublin (not sure about the rest of the country), Cummann na mBunscoil Senior hurling and Camogie competitions are fully competitive and do not come under the Go Games Rules.

I believe they "get away with it" because the cut off date for schools ages is middle of year rather than Jan so technically the competition is U12 1/2 and therefore does not have to come under the GAA directive of Go Games for U12 and younger.

The Junior hurling should be Go Games/non competitive. They don't do finals any more, just a league round robin.
Barry
(492 Posts)
Posted: 24-May-2012 12:57
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Originally posted by spot_the_dog:
In Dublin (not sure about the rest of the country), Cummann na mBunscoil Senior hurling and Camogie competitions are fully competitive and do not come under the Go Games Rules. I believe they "get away with it" because the cut off date for schools ages is middle of year rather than Jan so technically the competition is U12 1/2 and therefore does not have to come under the GAA directive of Go Games for U12 and younger.The Junior hurling should be Go Games/non competitive. They don't do finals any more, just a league round robin.

Ya,that explains it alright.

The grades are U-11 and U-13 and I have noticed that the U-11 competition is run quite differently to the U-13.

You learn something new everyday!

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