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Topic: Clare Team for sunday v Waterford ?
Stamp101
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 09:04
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Name it
johnsie
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 10:02
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And can someone have a go at the Waterford team and update on Injuries?
Paudie223
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 10:27
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Can someone explain to me why the bookies have installed Clare as favourites for this game?

They have been playing in the lower division for the past 3 years.
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 10:40
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Stamp, might be an idea to chabge the title to "Clare vs Waterford, MSHC June 17th" or something like that, otherwise anotehr thread will appear.
Speebs
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 10:54
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Davy has guided the side to Div 1 and achieved the main target for the year.
However, I feel that the time is right now for this team to mature into a championship force.
This will more or less be the same Clare team that played the same opposition at the same venue two years ago.
They performed fairly well then against an arguably stronger Waterford side so I dont think its asking too much for them to improve on that display.
To answer Paudge's query, the bookies probably think this Waterford team isnt as strong as previous years and on that basis Clare might be able to make the step up.
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 11:21
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Originally posted by Paudie223:
Can someone explain to me why the bookies have installed Clare as favourites for this game?They have been playing in the lower division for the past 3 years.

My guess is that money has gone on Clare and the bookies are try to hedge some of it.
This is a good young Clare team that in 2 years time will be serious contenders for winning an AI, when the lads out of the last 2 years minor teams hit 20/21. We are also in with a great chance of winning this years AI U21 championship.
Our goal at the start of the year was simple. Win D2 (achieved). Get to a Munster Final. And I suppose win a Munster U21 and possible AI.
nokia
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 11:36
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i was talking to a fella last night thats involved with the waterford backroom team and he said that it will be something like this

1.Okeefe
2.Kearney
3.Lawlor
4.Daniels
5.Fives but they expect he wont be fit so tony browne
6.Brick walsh
7.Foley
8.Moran
9.Molumphy
10.Shanahan
11.Kelly
12.Cant remember who he said

14.Shane Walsh

Doesnt know who the corner forwards will be
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 11:37
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Originally posted by nokia:
i was talking to a fella last night thats involved with the waterford backroom team and he said that it will be something like this1.Okeefe
2.Kearney
3.Lawlor
4.Daniels
5.Fives but they expect he wont be fit so tony browne
6.Brick walsh
7.Foley
8.Moran
9.Molumphy
10.Shanahan
11.Kelly
12.Cant remember who he said14.Shane Walsh
Doesnt know who the corner forwards will be

Mullane has to be in there.
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 11:40
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One thing I hope the ref will crack down on Sunday is Mullane over-carrying the ball. 2 years ago when we played them he got away with it time and again. And in many acses he draws the foul. There was one free in particular in that game given against Conor Cooney I think it was. Mullane had taken 6 steps with the ball before running into Cooney, he took a further two more, put his head down under ooney's arm and the ref inexplicably gave a free in. He regularly takes more than 4 steps with the ball in hand and that makes it very hard for frustrating for defenders. Top hurler, but its something I feel refs should crack down on.
Paudie223
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 11:51
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Clare MUST beat Waterford on Sunday, lets not expect anything less. It is nearly the same team that lost to Waterford 2 years ago, a lot of the lads have been on the panel for 3 or more years now. They have to make this step and get to a munster final.
Keanes Road
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 13:11
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Originally posted by nokia:
i was talking to a fella last night thats involved with the waterford backroom team and he said that it will be something like this1.Okeefe
2.Kearney
3.Lawlor
4.Daniels
5.Fives but they expect he wont be fit so tony browne
6.Brick walsh
7.Foley
8.Moran
9.Molumphy
10.Shanahan
11.Kelly
12.Cant remember who he said14.Shane Walsh
Doesnt know who the corner forwards will be

Pretty much my thinking on the team as well from how I hear they are going in training and challenges.

I think Twomey might get a spot midfield which would put Molumphy half forward outside Kelly. Corner forwards will probably be Mullane and Gavin O’Brien but I would not be surprised if Eoin McGrath got into that team. He was playing half forward for the latter part of the league.

Any one hear how the game with Limerick went over the weekend? I heard Waterford won handy enough but I have no idea who played or how the scoring went.
gaelforce10
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 13:13
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This current crop have been there for two years now. They need to produce over the next two I would think. Theyve done brilliantly to get out of division 2 but need to take it to next stage. Teams only have a finite number of years to hit the heights, and we can't afford to be thinking that it will come eventually and that we should be patient. Damn talk of development or transition- the time is now
Not Men But Giants
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 13:19
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Originally posted by nokia:
i was talking to a fella last night thats involved with the waterford backroom team and he said that it will be something like this1.Okeefe
2.Kearney
3.Lawlor
4.Daniels
5.Fives but they expect he wont be fit so tony browne
6.Brick walsh
7.Foley
8.Moran
9.Molumphy
10.Shanahan
11.Kelly
12.Cant remember who he said14.Shane Walsh
Doesnt know who the corner forwards will be

Is Mahony not ahead of Daniels? I'd still rate Browne above both of them at the moment. I'd like to see

1. O'Keeffe
2. Kearney
3. Lawlor
4. Fives
5. Browne
6. Brick
7. Foley
8. Moran
9. Kelly
10. Shanahan
11. Mullane
12. Molumphy
13. O'Brien
14. Walsh
15. O'Neill

Waterford are there for the taking.
Soisear B
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 14:41
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Think Clare might be:
1. P Kelly
2. D o Donovan
3. C Dillion
4. C Cooney
5. B Bugler
6. J Mac
7. L Markham
8. N o Connell
9. P Donnelan
10. F Lynch
11. J Clancy
12. J Conlon
13. A Cunningham
14. C McGrath
15. S Collins
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 14:43
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Originally posted by Soisear B:
Think Clare might be:
1. P Kelly
2. D o Donovan
3. C Dillion
4. C Cooney
5. B Bugler
6. J Mac
7. L Markham
8. N o Connell
9. P Donnelan
10. F Lynch
11. J Clancy
12. J Conlon
13. A Cunningham
14. C McGrath
15. S Collins

Not a bad team SB. Savage pace in that FF line.
BANNERBOYS
(548 Posts)
Posted: 11-Jun-2012 14:44
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Will Colin Ryan not start? I would imagine Cunningham will be used off the bench.
Soisear B
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 14:54
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Originally posted by BANNERBOYS:
Will Colin Ryan not start? I would imagine Cunningham will be used off the bench.

Prob will, think Sean Collins will be named as a corner forward and probably play as a 4th half forward. Don't think Pat o Connor will b given the start either.
tse
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 15:01
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Originally posted by Soisear B:
Think Clare might be:
1. P Kelly
2. D o Donovan
3. C Dillion
4. C Cooney
5. B Bugler
6. J Mac
7. L Markham
8. N o Connell
9. P Donnelan
10. F Lynch
11. J Clancy
12. J Conlon
13. A Cunningham
14. C McGrath
15. S Collins

I think this may be the team that starts out.
Goalie - the top choice this year, very consistent.
Full back line - I would have expected E Glynn to make it on, but Davy seems to prefer Cooney and DOD to flank Dillon and this line is well established by now.
Half back line - Bugler and McInerney are almost certainties once fit. POC has seen a big drop off and while Markham may get the nod over him, I have heard that young Morey from SMB is going well again after injury. He has impressed me when i've seen him this year. He is young though and Davy may hold him on the bench.
Midfield - Expect no change here.
Half forward line - This move of Clancy to centre and Collins to the corner is recent and I know Clancy likes to rove and pick up breaks, I think Collins does that too, but better and is a more accurate scorer. I wouldn't start Clancy and keep Collins in the centre and let him move.
Full Forward Line - I think Colin Ryan will start, he has not shown any reason why not, so will Cunningham, he has super natural ability. Again young but well able to handle himself. D Keane, C Morey and C McInerney offer good options off the bench if he is struggling, but with Waterford minus Conners I would fancy him to go well.

How is Sean Collins? I noticed in the Champion that he came off last week against Cork with a hamstring problem.
hurling immortal
(267 Posts)
Posted: 11-Jun-2012 15:09
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Originally posted by Soisear B:
Think Clare might be:
1. P Kelly
2. D o Donovan
3. C Dillion
4. C Cooney
5. B Bugler
6. J Mac
7. L Markham
8. N o Connell
9. P Donnelan
10. F Lynch
11. J Clancy
12. J Conlon
13. A Cunningham
14. C McGrath
15. S Collins

i think this will be very close.. i think sean collins is out with a pulled hamstring.. i also believe colin ryan will start.. markham also may switch with either donnellan or o connell.(hopefully o connell as wing back is his best position) as the season goes on i expect conor cooney to come under serious pressure..(from seadna morey and eamon glynn) i also expect both tony kelly and darack honan to come into serious contention after waterford match.. at the moment they are both training and playing challenges.. in fact dont be surprised if one, or even both, of them see some gametime against waterford..i know people on here dont agree. especially in relation to kelly.(you heard it here first)
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 15:15
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Originally posted by hurling immortal:
i think this will be very close.. i think sean collins is out with a pulled hamstring.. i also believe colin ryan will start.. markham also may switch with either donnellan or o connell.(hopefully o connell as wing back is his best position) as the season goes on i expect conor cooney to come under serious pressure..(from seadna morey and eamon glynn) i also expect both tony kelly and darack honan to come into serious contention after waterford match.. at the moment they are both training and playing challenges.. in fact dont be surprised if one, or even both, of them see some gametime against waterford..i know people on here dont agree. especially in relation to kelly.(you heard it here first)

I'd well believe it hurling immortal. Is Tony not in the middle of the leaving cert though or wil it be over for him by then? I see Darach scored 1-1 after coming on as a sub there lately for Clon. I think you have more or less hit the nauil on the ehad there with that post, same for tse. I'd be slow moving Nicky out of midfield though as he chips in with scores from play as well. Liam Markham is a definate starter for me too.
Half Forward
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 15:16
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Honan will definitely see game time. 100%.
BANNERBOYS
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 15:37
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Heard the A's played the B's over the weekend, and that Honan and Kelly played for the B's. Kelly will surely be in the 24 seeing that he is taking part at training during his leaving cert.
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 16:04
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The Waterford team Friday night was

O'Keeffe
Kearney
Lawlor
Daniels
Mahony
Brick
Hutchinson
Foley
Nagle
Shanahan
Kelly
Molumphy
Mullane
Walsh
Not sure. O Brien blue helmet
N16
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 16:07
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
The Waterford team Friday night wasO'Keeffe
Kearney
Lawlor
Daniels
Mahony
Brick
Hutchinson
Foley
Nagle
Shanahan
Kelly
Molumphy
Mullane
Walsh
Not sure. O Brien blue helmet

What was the score SLR and who did ye have out? What way did it pan out?
Speebs
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Posted: 11-Jun-2012 16:27
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Sure isnt Tony Kelly is just out of 1st year college? Did leaving last year?
If so, I expect him on the bench next weekend.

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