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Topic: Ireland V Spain
Remy Martin
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 12:53
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No luck in the first game but this is the kind of game that we relish, written off and back to the walls.

Can we do what Chelsea did to Barcelona?

Oh yes we can
Blanco
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 12:58
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Originally posted by Remy Martin:
No luck in the first game but this is the kind of game that we relish, written off and back to the walls.Can we do what Chelsea did to Barcelona?Oh yes we can

I admire your optimism but I don't share it.

For all their possession they don't score a bagful of goals , so Spain to dominate and win by 2 goals or so.

Also good to see that RTE are taking their cost cutting seriously , as well as their sports corresponding they have broadcast various programs such as the John Murray show and 2FM shows from Poland thus transporting their production teams out there and now so not to be left out Pat Kenny will be bringing his radio show from Ukraine for a few days next week.


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Rebel CNC
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:02
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I think this team used up their full portion of "backs to the wall luck" against Russia in the qualifiers!
murraymarmalade
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:09
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Originally posted by Blanco:
I admire your optimism but I don't share it.For all their possession they don't score a bagful of goals , so Spain to dominate and win by 2 goals or so.Also good to see that RTE are taking their cost cutting seriously , as well as their sports corresponding they have broadcast various programs such as the John Murray show and 2FM shows from Poland thus transporting their production teams out there and now so not to be left out Pat Kenny will be bringing his radio show from Ukraine for a few days next week.
I have to agree with you Blanco as much as I want you to be wrong but it would be a major shock. Perhaps if Spain had won their opening game they might have taken their foot off the gas. Somehow the Chelsea thing might work against us as they will know how to handle it now. Still you never know.

Hitch
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:09
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Remember what happened to the All Blacks back in the day!

murraymarmalade
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:11
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Originally posted by Hitch:

Remember what happened to the All Blacks back in the day!
Somehow I cant see the Spaniards going out on the lash tonight.

GalwayDownUnder
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:14
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What struck me about the papers on Monday was that somehow there was a silver lining in the rugby performance but not in our soccer performance. Is that me being blinkered or a rugby bias in the media.

Regardless I think we have a greater chance of beating Spain than we do of beating New Zealand. Still slim though.
murraymarmalade
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:17
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Originally posted by GalwayDownUnder:
What struck me about the papers on Monday was that somehow there was a silver lining in the rugby performance but not in our soccer performance. Is that me being blinkered or a rugby bias in the media.Regardless I think we have a greater chance of beating Spain than we do of beating New Zealand. Still slim though.
Our own footballers (Galway) have more of a chance of winning the All Ireland than the rugby team have of beating the All Blacks.

Sledgehammer
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:18
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Originally posted by GalwayDownUnder:
What struck me about the papers on Monday was that somehow there was a silver lining in the rugby performance but not in our soccer performance. Is that me being blinkered or a rugby bias in the media.Regardless I think we have a greater chance of beating Spain than we do of beating New Zealand. Still slim though.

Think Silver lining might have been were not beaten by more!

Spanish ever really hammer teams?? Could this be the time, that's my fear.

Yojimbo
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:20
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Originally posted by Remy Martin:
No luck in the first game but this is the kind of game that we relish, written off and back to the walls.Can we do what Chelsea did to Barcelona?Oh yes we can

Can we?

Pog Mahone
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:22
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Both fcuked, but probably not as bad as Greece who are faced with relegation.
Scaoil Amach an Bobailín
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:26
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Originally posted by Remy Martin:
Can we do what Chelsea did to Barcelona?Oh yes we can

We're going to have to get the ball off them to do that.

Keanes Road
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:27
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Not a hope in this world that this Ireland team will get anything but roundly thrashed imho. They have done exceptionally well to get to the Euro’s but the evidence was clear for all to see from a long way out that we are thread bare in terms of quality and ability. We are terrible defensively which for a defensive team / set up is all the more worrying. Spain love to keep the ball, we love to give it way which is another disaster in the making.

I think 4-0 to the Spanish and hope it is not worse.

I don’t want to be a negative as I seem about Ireland but that is the reality of what is in store.
Hold that Line
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:48
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Originally posted by GalwayDownUnder:
Regardless I think we have a greater chance of beating Spain than we do of beating New Zealand. Still slim though.

We probably do but that's because they are very different sports. In football you can always score a jammy goal, defend for your lives and get a bit of luck and you can squeak out a 1-0 win against a far better team. Can't really do that in rugby.

Yojimbo
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 13:54
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Originally posted by Keanes Road:
Not a hope in this world that this Ireland team will get anything but roundly thrashed imho. They have done exceptionally well to get to the Euro’s but the evidence was clear for all to see from a long way out that we are thread bare in terms of quality and ability. We are terrible defensively which for a defensive team / set up is all the more worrying. Spain love to keep the ball, we love to give it way which is another disaster in the making. I think 4-0 to the Spanish and hope it is not worse.I don’t want to be a negative as I seem about Ireland but that is the reality of what is in store.

I think most of our defensive frailties displayed against Croatia were down to both Shay Given and Richard Dunne not being fully fit, never mind match-fit.
Sean St Ledger worked bravely to cover up those deficiencies, - and had possibly his best ever game for us, - but it was just too much of a handicap

Keanes Road
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 14:38
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Originally posted by Yojimbo:

I think most of our defensive frailties displayed against Croatia were down to both Shay Given and Richard Dunne not being fully fit, never mind match-fit.
Sean St Ledger worked bravely to cover up those deficiencies, - and had possibly his best ever game for us, - but it was just too much of a handicap

I think it is a lot more deep rooted than that Jim. If those two were fit they might be able to shore things up slightly but the fact remains that in all our games we give up boat loads of chances and we got blessed not to concede on numerous occasions in the qualifiers. Those displays - warnings – were not taken on board and now against better opposition we are getting taken apart. A fit Given or Dunne wont sort that out when Whelan and Andrews are not the level needed to take on the Spanish midfield (all 6 of them) and our fullbacks get drawn out of position on a regular basis, Ward more so than O’Shea to be fair.

It’s like bringing knuckle dusters to a gun fight.
Arkle
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 14:44
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I don't understand the Barca-Chelsea comparison that a lot of people are using. While Spain could most definitely considered the Barca of international football, Ireland are no where near being the Chelsea of national teams.
A more appropriate comparison would be Barca-Championship/lower level EPL club.

It's really hard to see us getting anything but beaten. You actually have to get the occasional sniff of the ball and be able to do something with it.
I would love to be wrong though.
let it long
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 14:58
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4-0 to Spain. Not a snowballs chance and then a 1-0 loss to the Italians. The italians will score one and be happy with their lot and sit back and defend.
I think we've scored our one and only goal in this tournament. Be glad to be out, we're the worst team there by a stretch and you can't listen to 5 mins of radio without being bombarded by some reporter in Poznan.
murraymarmalade
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 15:08
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Whats the chances on Paul Green getting a game tomorrow night as an extra midfielder ? Stranger things have happened.
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Yojimbo
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 15:17
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Originally posted by Keanes Road:
I think it is a lot more deep rooted than that Jim. If those two were fit they might be able to shore things up slightly but the fact remains that in all our games we give up boat loads of chances and we got blessed not to concede on numerous occasions in the qualifiers. Those displays - warnings – were not taken on board and now against better opposition we are getting taken apart. A fit Given or Dunne wont sort that out when Whelan and Andrews are not the level needed to take on the Spanish midfield (all 6 of them) and our fullbacks get drawn out of position on a regular basis, Ward more so than O’Shea to be fair.
It’s like bringing knuckle dusters to a gun fight.

Keano, early in the second half, both before and after Croatia scored their third, you could see our defenders getting pulled all over the place, with nobody seeming to know what their role was.
In previous games, in similar situations, you'd see Dunney marshalling his troops, and alerting them as to what positions to take up.
But with his own game still not quite up to speed, and having to concern himself too much with that, we were left rudderless.
And, speaking of Ward, part of the reason Cox was brought on was to help make up for Ward's defensive deficiencies
(you recall the scrap with Jelavic's strike partner, where the Croatian came off a poor second-best)

hurling immortal
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 15:23
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Originally posted by Remy Martin: No luck in the first game but this is the kind of game that we relish, written off and back to the walls.Can we do what Chelsea did to Barcelona?Oh yes we can


have drogba and ramires declared for ireland??
T_de_B
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 15:45
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Methinks it will be a repeat of that 2008 game.

Spain 3 - 30
Ireland 2 - 8

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sub of the day
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 15:59
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I'm going for a 1 all draw.This is last chance saloon for Ireland, and I'm sure the players will want it more.We will also have the majority of the support, who realise the consequences of defeat.Spain will have bigger fish to fry in the latter stages,for which 5 points will see them safely through.Fingers crossed our elimunation is at least delayed till Monday.
Sledgehammer
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 16:53
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Originally posted by Yojimbo:

Keano, early in the second half, both before and after Croatia scored their third, you could see our defenders getting pulled all over the place, with nobody seeming to know what their role was.
In previous games, in similar situations, you'd see Dunney marshalling his troops, and alerting them as to what positions to take up.
But with his own game still not quite up to speed, and having to concern himself too much with that, we were left rudderless.
And, speaking of Ward, part of the reason Cox was brought on was to help make up for Ward's defensive deficiencies
(you recall the scrap with Jelavic's strike partner, where the Croatian came off a poor second-best)

In previous games, in similar situations!

Thats it really, the one team recently we played competively of the class of Croatia, Spain, Italy was Russia and in fairness we were blessed to get a result in Russia! You can pick and choose Jim and we have great heart etc, but likes of Glen Whelan for me is a poor player, he would def not stand out playing LOI.

Bringing on Cox to help Ward at 3-1 down all in vain at that stage. Might as well have lost 5-1 and brought McClean on.

As for Richard Dunne, great servant to Ireland, was on two serious strikers, he's a good player, but there is a reason he is no longer at City and Villa are struggling


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Blanco
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Posted: 13-Jun-2012 16:58
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Originally posted by sub of the day:
Spain will have bigger fish to fry in the latter stages,for which 5 points will see them safely through.Fingers crossed our elimunation is at least delayed till Monday.

Spain will be trying to avoid at all costs having to go into the Croatian game needing a win to survive , the best way they see out of the group is a good high score win against Ireland and then only needing a draw from the last game to qualify.
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