Originally posted by Fr Murphys Ghost:
So basically Keane is having a go at the supporters for doing what they are supposed to do, support.

This message has been edited - 15-jun-2012 @ 10:27

Originally posted by Boston Bruin:
Keane has a point. The more this week has gone on the more cringe worthy the whole thing has become, where we have completely reverted to the stereotypical novelty act everyone expects us to be resulting in predictable patronising comments from the likes of the English commentators. We are like the child allowed into his parents dinner party for the first half hour, where their friends can admire and be amused by his cuteness & childish innocence. Then abruptly, he is ushered up the stairs to bed as the guests sit down to their starters as the serious, grown up conversations begin or in our case the serious football. And whats worse , as all the tales of tomfoolery, gombeenism and high jinks emerge from Poznan and Gdansk through the papers, You Tube etc, it seems nobody finds this more amusing than ourselves. We think we are hilarious, and that everyone else thinks we are hilarious. It’s become embarrassing.

Originally posted by Boston Bruin:
Keane has a point. The more this week has gone on the more cringe worthy the whole thing has become, where we have completely reverted to the stereotypical novelty act everyone expects us to be resulting in predictable patronising comments from the likes of the English commentators. We are like the child allowed into his parents dinner party for the first half hour, where their friends can admire and be amused by his cuteness & childish innocence. Then abruptly, he is ushered up the stairs to bed as the guests sit down to their starters as the serious, grown up conversations begin or in our case the serious football. And whats worse , as all the tales of tomfoolery, gombeenism and high jinks emerge from Poznan and Gdansk through the papers, You Tube etc, it seems nobody finds this more amusing than ourselves. We think we are hilarious, and that everyone else thinks we are hilarious. It’s become embarrassing.

Originally posted by stones_off:
Is this the same Roy Keane

Originally posted by stones_off:
.Our kids aren't going to get any better if they are continually watching the Premiership, with its long ball tactics.

Originally posted by HangSanwich:
ROY KEANE lashed out at the Irish team last night following their 4-0 thrashing by Spain saying: "We’re a small country, we’re up against it, but let’s not just go along for the sing-song every now and again."For once the mayfield man speaks sense.Granted the fans were the highlight of last night, as a nation we have to change our attitude,we have to go and compete.It has to start grass roots though at under age level and develop young players to pass and keep possession.Lumpin the ball forward is not working which was clearly seen last night and last sunday.John Delaney get the finger out and give us a team to be proud of.It might take bout 30 years to develop a reputable Irish team but if it does so be it.

Originally posted by srb:
A cretin of the highest order and a horrible human being. This is the man-child who done a runner home from Saipan because he didn't fancy it. That performance wasn't a disgrace/embarrassing or that, Macedonia was, Cyprus away was, San Marino away was to name a few.
This group of players were punching above their weight to even get there so what if it all goes to the wall as it has done, the luck runs out, we so what? In a country blighted by recession, emigration and hopelessness, this past week or two has given people something to cheer, enjoy and feel proud of who they are. The fans at the end of the 2 games singing was merely an act of defiance in that we can't be broken.
Keane lives a millionaires lifestyle with little in common with the average man in the street, a product of the EPL monster he helped create.
The players did their best but they are several levels below what we face in this tournament and no amount of tactics, formations or attitude will change that. We were lucky to be there and may not be back for a long long time so why not just enjoy it for what it is, don't listen to begrudgers and get behind the team.

Originally posted by srb:

The players did their best but they are several levels below what we face in this tournament and no amount of tactics, formations or attitude will change that. We were lucky to be there and may not be back for a long long time so why not just enjoy it for what it is, don't listen to begrudgers and get behind the team.

Originally posted by Boston Bruin:
In a way it’s hard to explain how we are not producing a higher proportion of all round talented players. 88 and 90 was a springboard for the game in this country and led to the evolution of a structured framework of coaching and player development by the FAI. We now have coaches all over the country , academies, centres of excellence plus a better, more scientific approach in terms of small sided games as opposed to 11 v 11 , more emphasis on physical preparation and technique etc, etc. However 25 years on, I’d argue that the team of 88/90 is certainly more technically gifted than the one that went out last night. Paul McGrath, gifted centre half, could play just as comfortable in centre mid, Ronnie Whelan, Liverpool’s playmaker could pick a pass and make things happen and remember the goal against the Soviets, Morris & Hughton as fullbacks were comfortable on the ball, even Quinn, for a big fella had good touch was could play on the deck. The home grown lads like Quinn, McGrath, Whelan and Brady before them all came through the Dublin Schoolboy nurseries who at that time had poor facilities so where these lads learned to play was on the street. So if 25 years on and after investing a whole pile of cash into player development & coaching means we are technically inferior to where we were in 88/90, then there is something seriously wrong with the methodology being used.

Originally posted by Boston Bruin:
....The home grown lads like Quinn, McGrath, Whelan and Brady before them all came through the Dublin Schoolboy nurseries who at that time had poor facilities so where these lads learned to play was on the street. So if 25 years on and after investing a whole pile of cash into player development & coaching means we are technically inferior to where we were in 88/90, then there is something seriously wrong with the methodology being used.