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Topic: Not so great from Irish rugby fans
Anyone but FF
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 15:47
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Christchurch Mail

Police disappointed with drunk rugby fans

NICOLE MATHEWSON

Last updated 10:03 17/06/2012

Christchurch police are "disappointed" with the drunk and disorderly behaviour of some fans during last night's All Black test match.

Senior Sergeant Scott Banfield, head of Christchurch's team policing unit, said five people were arrested and 16 people were evicted from the new AMI Stadium for alcohol-related disorder.

Police also attended a number of alcohol-related incidents in the stands during the match, including assaults and offensive language.

"It was silly little things, like some people sitting in the wrong seat, that sparked a fight. Maybe if people weren't intoxicated they would have dealt with it a bit more maturely.

About 28 people were turned away from the stadium before the game even began because they were "already heavily intoxicated", Banfield said.

"You're paying good money to see the game ... and they never even got into the game."

Most of the troublemakers were Irish supporters who "demonstrated they can't handle alcohol", he said.

"We've got our own drinking culture in New Zealand which we're trying to sort out and if that's a representation of what they do in their own country they've got big problems over there.

"I think they just have to understand .. if they're in Rome do as the Romans do. We don't drink to a point where we fall over so much in our country."

One of the arrested people included a naked woman who ran onto the field during half-time.

Some of the arrested people would receive pre-charge warnings, but the streaker was likely to be sent to the Christchurch District Court for disorderly behaviour, Banfield said.

Several people told stadium staff they had had enough of the offensive language and bad behaviour around them and left before the game had finished.

"There was pretty poor behaviour out there. It's pretty sad when people say 'look we're out of here .. we've got kids and things and the language around here is terrible'."

"It was disappointing. Overall [it was] a fantastic game, a real test, but to have people's alcohol levels so high, it took a real shine off the game."
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thehermit
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 16:00
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This story has been doing the rounds in a lot of media sites over the past few days. I tend to agree with a lot of the official comments I've seen from Irish groups based in NZ.

"We've got our own drinking culture in New Zealand which we're trying to sort out and if that's a representation of what they do in their own country they've got big problems over there.''

Don't make me laugh, I travelled around NZ a few years back and let me tell you downtown Auckland and Wellington at 2am on a Saturday night are not nice places to be. Beer and blood flowing in equal measure, was nearly as bad as what I've seen in places like Cardiff!

I think its pretty disgraceful for a senior NZ police official to imply that Irish fans were solely to blame for some limited drunk and disorderly conduct. I went to some club rugby games in NZ when I was there, and much of the crowds were well sauced.

Hope this crap is being stuck on dressing room wall for Irish boys next Saturday morning!
Hold that Line
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 16:48
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If the NZ police were that bothered about the small number of Ireland fans at the game in Christchurch last weekend they would have probably called out the army to deal with the lads over in Poznan.
Rebel CNC
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:38
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It's a Christchurch thing.

Place is a notoriously boring and conservative city which resembles a nice but dull English market town in the home counties - think Chichester.

However, wouldn't get too precious about it - we do have issues re the demon drink.
I'd say poor old Senior Sergeant Scott Banfield would faint with the shock of trying to deal with shenanighans in any Irish town on a Friday or Saturday night.
Perhaps he should try policing the bulmers brigade next Sunday in the environs of Pairc Ui Chaoimh.


carryharry
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:48
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''Perhaps he should try policing the bulmers brigade next Sunday in the environs of Pairc Ui Chaoimh''.

Are we the only crowd left that drink it CNC?


Bressie
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:50
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There must have been no cover charge to get into the bars in Christchurch!
cerebus
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:53
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Originally posted by Bressie:
There must have been no cover charge to get into the bars in Christchurch!

Happy as Lar , apparently.

carryharry
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:54
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I hear all the other pubs in Thurles are now leaving people in without charge!

What next? Where will it stop?
Sleekit
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:57
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You can be sure that none of those arrested were Ulster fans.
carryharry
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 17:58
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Originally posted by Sleekit:
You can be sure that none of those arrested were Ulster fans.

Spot on lad, Sheep country around those parts! No time for drinking!

Pog Mahone
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 20:18
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Darn, the ladyboys involved in a bit of a donnybrook in Christchurch, whatever next!
Squirrel Farrell
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 22:09
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I'm guessing there are no photos of the streaker then?!
JohnMcCain
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Posted: 20-Jun-2012 00:31
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Originally posted by Anyone but FF:

Christchurch MailPolice disappointed with drunk rugby fans NICOLE MATHEWSON Last updated 10:03 17/06/2012
Christchurch police are "disappointed" with the drunk and disorderly behaviour of some fans during last night's All Black test match. Senior Sergeant Scott Banfield, head of Christchurch's team policing unit, said five people were arrested and 16 people were evicted from the new AMI Stadium for alcohol-related disorder. Police also attended a number of alcohol-related incidents in the stands during the match, including assaults and offensive language. "It was silly little things, like some people sitting in the wrong seat, that sparked a fight. Maybe if people weren't intoxicated they would have dealt with it a bit more maturely. About 28 people were turned away from the stadium before the game even began because they were "already heavily intoxicated", Banfield said. "You're paying good money to see the game ... and they never even got into the game." Most of the troublemakers were Irish supporters who "demonstrated they can't handle alcohol", he said. "We've got our own drinking culture in New Zealand which we're trying to sort out and if that's a representation of what they do in their own country they've got big problems over there. "I think they just have to understand .. if they're in Rome do as the Romans do. We don't drink to a point where we fall over so much in our country." One of the arrested people included a naked woman who ran onto the field during half-time. Some of the arrested people would receive pre-charge warnings, but the streaker was likely to be sent to the Christchurch District Court for disorderly behaviour, Banfield said. Several people told stadium staff they had had enough of the offensive language and bad behaviour around them and left before the game had finished. "There was pretty poor behaviour out there. It's pretty sad when people say 'look we're out of here .. we've got kids and things and the language around here is terrible'." "It was disappointing. Overall [it was] a fantastic game, a real test, but to have people's alcohol levels so high, it took a real shine off the game."

Dont know anything about the policeman in question. However there is a WASP element in New Zealand which has a distaste for Irish Catholics. It would not be too happy with the increasing numbers of Irish Catholics emigrating to the country.
It seems some New Zealanders think we Irish are stupid. Read
Former NZ mayor refuses to apologise for ‘dumb Irish’ slur

A former mayor of Wellington in New Zealand got into hot water over anti Irish comments:"I’ve believed it to be clever, witty and relevant and its critics dumb, humourless, totally irrelevant and probably Irish". He made an ass of himself.

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carryharry
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Posted: 20-Jun-2012 00:57
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I quiet like the sign!
dodgy-keeper
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Posted: 21-Jun-2012 13:17
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Disgraceful conduct from the Irish egg chasers. Bringing shame on the country once more.

Any reaction to this from Tom McGuirk, Ryle Nugent, Tony Ward, Hugh Farrelly, Donal Lenihan or Michael Corcoran?
stones_off
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Posted: 21-Jun-2012 14:31
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The comparison between the reaction to this thread and the one about the soccer team, says a lot about the people on here.
Anyone but FF
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Posted: 21-Jun-2012 16:51
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Originally posted by Hold that Line:
If the NZ police were that bothered about the small number of Ireland fans at the game in Christchurch last weekend they would have probably called out the army to deal with the lads over in Poznan.

I don't know about that. When in a different country you respect the laws of that land no matter how conservative or boring you think they are. If you went to someplace like Dubai and carried on in the same behaviour as some of the rugby fans above are alleged to have then you would be thrown in prison.

What sickens me though is that farce of an institution RTE. If this was GAA or soccer fans it would be headline news but because its the rugby crowd its brushed under the carpet and not mentioned above in Montrose.
jimmymahon
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Posted: 21-Jun-2012 19:48
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Originally posted by Anyone but FF:
I don't know about that. When in a different country you respect the laws of that land no matter how conservative or boring you think they are. If you went to someplace like Dubai and carried on in the same behaviour as some of the rugby fans above are alleged to have then you would be thrown in prison. What sickens me though is that farce of an institution RTE. If this was GAA or soccer fans it would be headline news but because its the rugby crowd its brushed under the carpet and not mentioned above in Montrose.

Absolutely right. There won't be a peep about this on RTÉ.
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