Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
My opinion is that a Dual player should be assessed on a case by case status based on his importance to the teams.

Originally posted by Blanco:
Even Alan Kearns who was one himself reckoned last night that the day of the Dual Palyer was coming to an end and is extremely hard to accommodate in these times such are the training regimes, he reckoned there was a big danger of the hurling suffering especially because of the skill levels required.

Originally posted by ollscoil:
I'd agree with Alan about the dual players time being up but I'd argue it's due to the pressure on the club game rather than his nonsense about skill levels in hurling.

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Yes but he also said that he was fighting against tradition of no dual players as well. And I remember there was a stigma when he got his first championship start with the Galway footballers and John Donnellan got dropped. It was seen as an major insult that John Donnellan lost his place to a hurler.

Originally posted by Limerick Bandit:
Stephen Lucey has stirred a hornets nest saying that underage players are being forced to choose. It could be true but that does not mean people are allowed to say things like that on RTE.

This message has been edited - 23-jun-2012 @ 10:59

Originally posted by ollscoil:
I'd agree with Alan about the dual players time being up but I'd argue it's due to the pressure on the club game rather than his nonsense about skill levels in hurling.

Originally posted by Limerick Bandit:
Stephen Lucey was seen as trouble in Limerick and was seen as trying to arrange Limerick football and hurling sessions to suit himself. I had that discussion with a prominent long serving Limerick hurler a few years ago. The county board support dual players for political reasons as they need the support of football clubs to get votes. Once they are in their seats it does not matter to them. Lucey has stirred a hornets nest saying that underage players are being forced to choose. It could be true but that does not mean people are allowed to say things like that on RTE.

Originally posted by Blanco:
He wasn't using skills in hurling as a reason for the demise of the Dual player , he just said that he felt his hurling skills suffered when he divided his time between the two , Sean Og O'Halpin said something similar after he decided to concentrate on hurling only.Every mention of Hurling is not an attack on football.

Originally posted by Limerick Bandit:
Lucey has stirred a hornets nest saying that underage players are being forced to choose. It could be true.

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Lucey lives on for another while after the last couple of weekends. I dont know why he wasnt used against Clare.

Originally posted by Long ball:
Lucey makes many valid points in that interview. Whether we care to admit it or not, talented young dual players are being discouraged from playing football for Limerick at county level. The situation with this year's minors is a case in point. What's worse is the situation at development squad level, where the hurling squad mentors are, in effect, banning dual players. This is tolerated by the county board; it fact it is completely supported by the county board when you consider the way that football development squads are under-resourced in comparison to their hurling counterparts.

Originally posted by johnny cash:
Tipp and Dublin minors enjoying great success in both codes the last few years. Limerick should be facilitating the dual lads like tipp and dublin do and cork always have. its not ideal but it should be catered.

Originally posted by lowballs:
Can you put a bit of meat on that bone SLR?

Originally posted by ollscoil:
That's the point I'm making, the more dual players the more impact county teams have on the club game. I'd be in favour of banning dual players at IC level from minor up. I think it's great to have lads who want to do it but we have to sort out our season and dual players and players playing numerous grades are destroying club level GAA.