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dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 17:14	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	St. Brigid's of Dublin beat Portlaoise 1-6 to 0-0 in the final. They outscored their opponents 14-35 to 2-09 over five games. That's five wins (by five different clubs) in a row for Dublin.
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 17:41	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Originally posted by dubliner 2: St. Brigid's of Dublin beat Portlaoise 1-6 to 0-0 in the final.They outscored their opponents 14-35 to 2-09 over five games. That's five wins (by five different clubs) in a row for Dublin. How many of these young lads are from Dublin? Im presuming at least half the St Brigid's team are from all over the country and are brought into Dublin by the club for school reasons
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 18:54	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Originally posted by staycalm: How many of these young lads are from Dublin? Im presuming at least half the St Brigid's team are from all over the country and are brought into Dublin by the club for school reasons I'll have whatever you're having.
daylo (642 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 19:35	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
daylo (642 Posts)	well done ennistymon div 5 champions
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 20:03	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Originally posted by dubliner 2: I'll have whatever you're having. Sure isnt that the norm in Dublin? Get as many country lads as you can and pretend that club football is strong??
Finian (852 Posts)	Posted: 24-Jun-2012 20:48	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Finian (852 Posts)	Probably about time to scrap the national football competition and just declare the Dublin champions ... national champions
busdriver (999 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 10:04	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
busdriver (999 Posts)	well done lads 5 Inagh/Kilnamona hurlers on the starting team and another 4 on the panel food for thought for us methinks tough luck to the quilty girls and the best of luck to the kilmaley boys in the hurling on july 7th
An Puc Fada (764 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 15:12	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
An Puc Fada (764 Posts)	Originally posted by dubliner 2: St. Brigid's of Dublin beat Portlaoise 1-6 to 0-0 in the final.They outscored their opponents 14-35 to 2-09 over five games. That's five wins (by five different clubs) in a row for Dublin. Did they go to Portugal for warm meather training beforehand....like one previous Dublin winning club?
Plastic Paddy (702 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 15:19	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Plastic Paddy (702 Posts)	Originally posted by An Puc Fada: Did they go to Portugal for warm meather training beforehand....like one previous Dublin winning club? I was at the feile yesterday and was told that they went on a 4 day training camp.
Turenne (1,088 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 15:32	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Turenne (1,088 Posts)	Do you have the team D2? How did the Cork reps do? Ballincollig I believe it was? Anyway congrats to the young lads, and the trolls trying to diminish their achievement are pathetic.
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 16:01	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Originally posted by Turenne: Do you have the team D2? How did the Cork reps do? Ballincollig I believe it was?Anyway congrats to the young lads, and the trolls trying to diminish their achievement are pathetic. Not sure what you mean by having the team???? I'm not a member of Brigds. Ballincollig were beaten 8 points to 3 by Portlaois in the semi final.
JoNinety (Power User)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 16:07	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
JoNinety (Power User)	Originally posted by staycalm: Im presuming at least half the St Brigid's team are from all over the country Seeing that it's unlikely that over 50% of the team are foreign nationals, that's a safe assumption to make. This message has been edited - 25-jun-2012 @ 16:08
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 16:55	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Brave men on here alright. Dublin probably have an advantage due to population and age-profile of the players but is that the fault of these 14 year old boys? Belittling a team of 14 year olds for winning a national title? Really? Is that what this site has come to? The comments about bringing lads in for school reasons are frankly bizarre don't even warrant a reply, not sure what the foreign nationals "quip" was about but when I get up from the floor from my laughing fit I'll try figure it out. I really hope none of the young lads are reading this. I'm not from Dublin and am not involved in Brigids though I live nearby, congrats to them, a great achievement, as it would be for any team. Some of yee need to get out of the house more. have a good long look at yourselves. This message has been edited - 25-jun-2012 @ 16:58
Open the Shoulders (439 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 17:32	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Open the Shoulders (439 Posts)	Dublin clubs and leagues have dominated underage soccer for years due to the numbers of players available to them. The Gaa are finally getting boys and girls to chose football and to a lesser extent hurling. If you have a club with 100 players at a particular age group that club is more likely to win a competition than one with 20 players at the age. This point is further proven by the achievement of New York in winning Division 2 boys and also one of the girls divisions. They also came close in the last few years. I read that they have 700 boys and girls in training. As much as some people want to believe that it's all about tradition, really when good structures are in place then its a numbers game.
azamour (261 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 17:57	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
azamour (261 Posts)	Is it true that Ballymun Kickhams travelled to the Algarve for a training camp before winning last year's Féile or is it just one of those urban legends?
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 18:21	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Originally posted by azamour: Is it true that Ballymun Kickhams travelled to the Algarve for a training camp before winning last year's Féile or is it just one of those urban legends? Brigids spent a couple of days in Carton House which may seem a bit mad but I have several times gone with under age teams to places (Galway and Cork mainly) and stayed over night in a cheap hotel, playing a football game one day and a hurling one against another club the next, which is not that different I suppose. Ballymun did travel to Portugal, which to my mind is a disgraceful example to set for kids who'll expect it will always be like this and yet another reason why this warm weather training schite amongst senior county teams should be banned. This message has been edited - 25-jun-2012 @ 18:21
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 19:17	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	Originally posted by spade caller: Brave men on here alright. Dublin probably have an advantage due to population and age-profile of the players but is that the fault of these 14 year old boys? Belittling a team of 14 year olds for winning a national title? Really? Is that what this site has come to? The comments about bringing lads in for school reasons are frankly bizarre don't even warrant a reply, not sure what the foreign nationals "quip" was about but when I get up from the floor from my laughing fit I'll try figure it out. I really hope none of the young lads are reading this.I'm not from Dublin and am not involved in Brigids though I live nearby, congrats to them, a great achievement, as it would be for any team. Some of yee need to get out of the house more. have a good long look at yourselves. +1, well said SC. You'd wonder about some lads who are point scoring off the success of a bunch of kids. It is my understanding that Ballymun's trip wasn't a training camp for the feile. Anyway, I'll be bringing my underage teams around the world if I can raise the funds. It wouldn't cost any more to bring a team to mainland Europe than it would to bring them on a bus to a lot of other cities in Britain. I firmly believe we should be offering kids these types of experiences as part of their involvement with the GAA. Play a match, do a bit of training, treat the kids and their parents and make all the kids feel 10 feet tall. There's no harm whatsoever in it and only in the GAA would treating kids to a trip away be viewed as a bad thing.
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 20:12	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
dubliner 2 (10,823 Posts)	Originally posted by ollscoil: +1, well said SC. You'd wonder about some lads who are point scoring off the success of a bunch of kids.It is my understanding that Ballymun's trip wasn't a training camp for the feile. Anyway, I'll be bringing my underage teams around the world if I can raise the funds. It wouldn't cost any more to bring a team to mainland Europe than it would to bring them on a bus to a lot of other cities in Britain. I firmly believe we should be offering kids these types of experiences as part of their involvement with the GAA. Play a match, do a bit of training, treat the kids and their parents and make all the kids feel 10 feet tall. There's no harm whatsoever in it and only in the GAA would treating kids to a trip away be viewed as a bad thing. Ballymun's trip absolutely was for the purposes of training for Feile and tht is a fact. Ollscoil you may see no harm in it but the vast majority of clubs are in debt. Now one team going off fund raising for a trip away while others are trying to raise money to pay off bank loans does not really fit in with the spirit of what a club is all about. I've no issue with bringing lads off to play matches and if you can get an U/14 game against Paris Gaels or Cologne or Stockholm or whoever then great. But Ballymun weren't in Portugal to play anyone. What happens if they win the U/15 Championship in Dublin this year? Will they want a trip to America? Sorry but it's a bad precedent to set. Winning should be its own reward.
rebelrebel30 (8,531 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 20:21	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
rebelrebel30 (8,531 Posts)	Originally posted by Plastic Paddy: I was at the feile yesterday and was told that they went on a 4 day training camp. Sadly like so many underage touraments now in all sports, while its great for kids to play in them and win them, so many many coaches are dont see the bigger picture..underage should be primarly about developing players, but every tom dick and harry wants nothing better than heading back to the club house with the cup and boring the s**te out of everyone about what a brilliant coach he is !
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 20:25	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
staycalm (1,081 Posts)	Originally posted by spade caller: Brave men on here alright. Dublin probably have an advantage due to population and age-profile of the players but is that the fault of these 14 year old boys? Belittling a team of 14 year olds for winning a national title? Really? Is that what this site has come to? The comments about bringing lads in for school reasons are frankly bizarre don't even warrant a reply, not sure what the foreign nationals "quip" was about but when I get up from the floor from my laughing fit I'll try figure it out. I really hope none of the young lads are reading this.I'm not from Dublin and am not involved in Brigids though I live nearby, congrats to them, a great achievement, as it would be for any team. Some of yee need to get out of the house more. have a good long look at yourselves. Dublin club football is known as a one stop shop to a job for country lads. A sense of humour transplant wouldnt go astray you know
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 20:41	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	I'm only going on what Ballymun said at the time but I won't debate the point as that's all I know about it. I don't think kids expect to be brought away every year so I see no connection with doing it one year and an expectation of doing it every year. Nor do I see what the debt of other clubs has to do with anything. We have little or no money in our club at the moment and we will cut our cloth to measure but we will try to raise money for international trips and parents will have to pay the balance. I fully believe a GAA club is about more than sport and providing experiences for kids who may never get them otherwise is vitally important. Our trips will have nothing to do with on field success and everything to do with providing our members with positive experiences.
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 20:44	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
ollscoil (2,616 Posts)	Originally posted by rebelrebel30: Sadly like so many underage touraments now in all sports, while its great for kids to play in them and win them, so many many coaches are dont see the bigger picture..underage should be primarly about developing players, but every tom dick and harry wants nothing better than heading back to the club house with the cup and boring the s**te out of everyone about what a brilliant coach he is ! While I don't disagree with you on the point of adult coaches losing sight of what they should be doing there is merit in making kids feel like the are 'elite' sports people. As long as it's about the kids and adding to their self confidence and as long as you are instilling the proper virtues in them in relation to winning, losing and competition then I see no problem for a club that can afford it.
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 22:56	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	If I were you I'd start small and just aim for some "sense" first.
rebelrebel30 (8,531 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 23:18	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
rebelrebel30 (8,531 Posts)	Originally posted by ollscoil: While I don't disagree with you on the point of adult coaches losing sight of what they should be doing there is merit in making kids feel like the are 'elite' sports people. As long as it's about the kids and adding to their self confidence and as long as you are instilling the proper virtues in them in relation to winning, losing and competition then I see no problem for a club that can afford it. I dont disagree either Ollscoil. Its about instilling virtues and confidence in our young people and sport is great for that, but ive seen some many mini hitlers in charge of U8, U 9, U10 U13,U14 teams etc over the years who are so blinded and biased to their own goals is actually very depressing that our clubs allow these adults to take underage teams. Ive seen fathers whose sons are on the team pick them even though the child mightnt be as good as another( not the childs fault), Ive witnessed awful shouting at youngsters and eroding of their confidence just because johnny didnt save a goal that cost the final etc etc. Far too many nut jobs get to positions of power at underage but they lack the wider social development skills to be even allowed take a group of 12 year olds in the first place. Obviously not every coach is like that, far from it and there are many brilliant lads up and down the country putting the time and dedication to develop our young people and they should be applauded. This message has been edited - 25-jun-2012 @ 23:20
busdriver (999 Posts)	Posted: 25-Jun-2012 23:57	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
busdriver (999 Posts)	what? an underage team going on a trip to portugal ? no wonder the country is in the state it is. more in their line bringing the team and their money down the country to the many many cash strapped clubs that are struggling to put jerseys on the backs of their players. how in the hell did hq sanction this blatant waste funds when clubs are filling private vehicles because they cant afford the mini bus? shocking in the extreme and the club should be ashamed of themselves i hope the powers that be considered this when grant applications come thru the letterbox what a shower of hooray henrys

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