I think they are better off to retain the Provincial Championships and allow the counties to opt out of the qualifiers. I would ask how Qualifiers are of benefit to teams other than those on the rise seeking gametime to build for the season ahead, or teams who were knocked out early who have the capability to win the All Ireland. Munster.

Originally posted by Tipsy MacStagger:
Four games, four stinkers. Let's put this dinosaur to sleep.

Originally posted by thehermit:
At least Munster contains two counties that are always traditionally in the top 5 in the country!

Originally posted by Hold that Line:
Kerry usually are alright. I wouldn't say Cork have been though.

Originally posted by thehermit:
What a ridiculous suggestion!! Get rid of it, and what???? How many years has Leinster been dominated by Dublin or Connacht been traditionally dominated by the big two of Galway and Mayo. Even in Ulster, and all this northern mythological crap they come out with of it being the most competitive province, Armagh dominated it for most of 2000s, just as Cavan did for so long traditionally. Don't single out Munster, when its practically the same everywhere. At least Munster contains two counties that are always traditionally in the top 5 in the country! That's one more than you can usually say for Connacht and Ulster throughout the vast majority of the GAA's history!!! In any team sport some teams will always dominate, you can see this the world over. As someone said, making it into some Champions League format will completely deny any chance of silverware the weaker counties can hope for. If you asked the Fermanagh panel of 2004 which would they have preferred to have at the end of their careers? That fine run in the All Ireland championship or an Ulster medal, I'm confident what answer they would give unanimously! Ditto Sligo 2007, Clare 1992, and anyone from the fine Limerick, Tipperary, Monaghan, Louth and Wicklow teams from the past ten years!

Originally posted by Hold that Line:
Kerry usually are alright. I wouldn't say Cork have been though.

Originally posted by robbied:
I would disassociate the provincial championships from the All-Ireland championship. Make them completely separate.

Originally posted by Red Pepper:
I don't understand this logic. How would this improve things for the GAA?

Originally posted by robbied:
It would lead to a fair competition for the All-Ireland.
The strong football teams in Connacht and Munster have a big advantage at the moment.

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Originally posted by Red Pepper:
It already is a fair competition. You get one chance to win your provincial championship and one chance to win the All-Ireland series.

Originally posted by robbied:

Contrast that to the path the eventual Ulster champions will have taken.

Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
Name the countys that are traditionally in the top 5 in your opinion HDL? and how you came about it.

Originally posted by Hold that Line:
The top 5 changes all the time. Kerry are nearly always there. I wouldn't say Cork are nearly always there even though they defintely have been well up there in recent years. Simples.

Originally posted by robbied:
It isnt a fair competition. One province has 12 counties, one has 9.
Kerry and Cork only have to play one serious game to get into the last 8.
Mayo may not have to play any Div 1 or 2 sides to get to last 8.
Contrast that to the path the eventual Ulster champions will have taken.

Originally posted by Hold that Line:
The top 5 changes all the time. Kerry are nearly always there. I wouldn't say Cork are nearly always there even though they defintely have been well up there in recent years. Simples.