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Topic: Karma for Kildare/Kieran McGeeney/Seanie Johnston/The GPA
Deeper Meaning
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 15:31
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What goes around comes around.

All this GPA professionalism, player transfer markets, pay for play has been given one kick in the teeth today.

And I am delighted
johnny cash
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 15:44
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i havent always been a fan of the GPA but I am unsure how culpable they are in the seanie saga. have they had anything to do with it?

Originally posted by Deeper Meaning:
What goes around comes around. All this GPA professionalism, player transfer markets, pay for play has been given one kick in the teeth today.And I am delighted

ProjX
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 15:46
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Have Kildare replaced Donegal as everyones least favourite team?

Kildares behaviour with respect to the Sean Johnston farce has been disgraceful. Sean Johnston has zero respect out of this.
jimmymahon
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 15:47
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Karma for a chameleon.
Deeper Meaning
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 15:48
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McGeeney is the GPA and they have secretly wanted a high profile transfer like this. They have also secretly wanted a full time professional team to win with a manager who believes in the GPA. They got their answer today.

The GAA were bigger fools to give Kildare a bail out
Glinnti Glasa
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 19:35
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You are 100% correct about McGeeny. I was delighted that they were beaten today. The Seanie johnston affair is a disgrace considering he played 40 seconds in a hurling match. It makes a mockery of all that we are involved in.
Bobbys blanket
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 20:31
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Originally posted by Deeper Meaning:
McGeeney is the GPA and they have secretly wanted a high profile transfer like this. They have also secretly wanted a full time professional team to win with a manager who believes in the GPA. They got their answer today. The GAA were bigger fools to give Kildare a bail out

And how did you infiltrate the GPA and learn all their secrets may I ask? Or is it a secret?

Larkin
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 20:38
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Originally posted by Deeper Meaning:
McGeeney is the GPA and they have secretly wanted a high profile transfer like this. They have also secretly wanted a full time professional team to win with a manager who believes in the GPA. They got their answer today. The GAA were bigger fools to give Kildare a bail out

Did they not also give the GPA a bailout, if I recall correctly? Were they not a private company with three shareholders and huge debts?
Turenne
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 21:08
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I'd say Donal Og is seething right now.
The Badger
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Posted: 02-Jul-2012 09:05
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Never thought I'd see the day when Kildare are hated more than Meath. But look, Banty took a risk with some young lads like Forde and Carroll. Its just shows, taking a punt on the talent in your own county is much more worth the effort than chasing mercenaries.
old seaman
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Posted: 02-Jul-2012 10:37
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I doubt he had any interest in a football match but of course someone has to have a cut off him if there is any chance at all.

Originally posted by Turenne:
I'd say Donal Og is seething right now.

Collig
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Posted: 02-Jul-2012 10:41
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Originally posted by old seaman:
I doubt he had any interest in a football match but of course someone has to have a cut off him if there is any chance at all.

Turenne was being sarcastic old seaman.
theblack&amber
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Posted: 02-Jul-2012 10:49
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No offense to anyone, but who cares?

I mean after all of this, what is the likelihood of Johnston actually being a starter for Kildare? Is he that good? Or are Kildare that bad?
Hurling Veteran
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Posted: 03-Jul-2012 09:49
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A few years ago there was speculation about a similar transfer of Shane Brick to Limerick. There was a heated management meeting and it was agreed that under no circumstances would the transfer of Shane Brick be considered unless he was genuinely living and working in Limerick and playing club hurling in Limerick. I was involved in discussions with officers about it at the time and we have scored a lot of own goals in the boardroom in Limerick but they should get credit for this. Pity Kildare did not do the same but there is a recent history of transfers into Kildare.
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 21:01
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Seanie Johnston a doubt for Cavan game with a shoulder injury.

More Karma???
frasiercrane
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 21:03
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Seanie Johnston a doubt for Cavan game with a shoulder injury. More Karma???

I would think an injury of convenience in order for him to avoid the rough treatment he may receive from the Cavan crowd and players potentially
Ozzy
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 12:35
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It's an extremely convenient injury. Presumably, he's fine but McGeeney doesn't want to put him in such a difficult position. When I heard he was a doubt it put me in mind of the phantom injuries Roy Keane suffered before friendly internationals.
Spiritof28
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 14:16
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This thread sound like the recounting of the minutes from the inaugural meeting of the Tibetan Hang-em-High committee and reps of the Daily Communicant party.
Such is the Mystical and Fervent insights and revelations on display here. In fact I'm becoming affected myself so here goes.

As usual when these highly motivated and like minded committees get together truth goes out the window but that does never create an obstacle for these soothsayers.

Interestingly comrade Badger is all over the threads relating to the SJ circus.
I'm sure his membership of this star gazing club can be traced to several KARMA revelations.

• An extended feeling of euphoria at getting Kildare on a day when they played totally inept football.

• The opportunity of connecting Kildares defeat to the SJ circus and Meaths last seconds TRY scoring win over Louth a couple of seasons back and their subsequent refusal to give a replay (his reference to Kildare now been the most hated team etc. LOL)

• The realisation that Meath are in with a great chance to win the AI this year.

Meath do have a great chance this year unfortunately though this prospect is not built on their football ability as much as the fact that they will not be having MEATH REFEREES officiating whom we all know have eyesight even from 40 meters that only a cat could envy and don't forget the other big plus element to their cause is Bantys brother has also hung up the whistle a pity he didn't do it a couple of years early for Kildares sake.

spade caller
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 14:31
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Originally posted by Spiritof28:
This thread sound like the recounting of the minutes from the inaugural meeting of the Tibetan Hang-em-High committee and reps of the Daily Communicant party.
Such is the Mystical and Fervent insights and revelations on display here. In fact I'm becoming affected myself so here goes.

As usual when these highly motivated and like minded committees get together truth goes out the window but that does never create an obstacle for these soothsayers.Interestingly comrade Badger is all over the threads relating to the SJ circus.
I'm sure his membership of this star gazing club can be traced to several KARMA revelations.

• An extended feeling of euphoria at getting Kildare on a day when they played totally inept football. • The opportunity of connecting Kildares defeat to the SJ circus and Meaths last seconds TRY scoring win over Louth a couple of seasons back and their subsequent refusal to give a replay (his reference to Kildare now been the most hated team etc. LOL) • The realisation that Meath are in with a great chance to win the AI this year.Meath do have a great chance this year unfortunately though this prospect is not built on their football ability as much as the fact that they will not be having MEATH REFEREES officiating whom we all know have eyesight even from 40 meters that only a cat could envy and don't forget the other big plus element to their cause is Bantys brother has also hung up the whistle a pity he didn't do it a couple of years early for Kildares sake.

When will Kildare people learn that you can't win an all-Ireland with automotons? Yee tried it in the 90s and due to the poverty of Leinster yee got 2 provincial titles. Unfortunately, "expenses" paid out guarantee nothing, energy is the only thing you need to expend to win an AI. Kildare, despite their self-delusion are no nearer to winning an AI than they were in the early 90s, and even if they did somehow win one this year, it would be tarnished.
I genuinely feel sorry for the real GAA people in Kildare, of which there are many. They have been left down by all this crap and no amount of whataboutery will ever justify the behaviour and/or the expenditure we've seen in the last couple of years
glasandbán
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 15:32
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Originally posted by Deeper Meaning:
McGeeney is the GPA and they have secretly wanted a high profile transfer like this. They have also secretly wanted a full time professional team to win with a manager who believes in the GPA. They got their answer today.

Awful divilment altogether, what else were they secretly up to???
Spiritof28
(81 Posts)
Posted: 08-Jul-2012 17:13
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Originally posted by spade caller:
When will Kildare people learn that you can't win an all-Ireland with automotons? Yee tried it in the 90s and due to the poverty of Leinster yee got 2 provincial titles. Unfortunately, "expenses" paid out guarantee nothing, energy is the only thing you need to expend to win an AI. Kildare, despite their self-delusion are no nearer to winning an AI than they were in the early 90s, and even if they did somehow win one this year, it would be tarnished.
I genuinely feel sorry for the real GAA people in Kildare, of which there are many. They have been left down by all this crap and no amount of whataboutery will ever justify the behaviour and/or the expenditure we've seen in the last couple of years

Is your submission about football or is it just envy at what Kildare supporters (because for the most part that is where the funding of the Kildare team came from under both Micko and McGeeney) are in the position to provide for their team.
Please don't be so condescending as Kildare has always contributed a great brand of football whither winning or losing this is well respected and accepted by all followers (SJ arrival will not change this style one way or the other)

IMO your reference to the efforts of Kildare in the 90’s is a below the belt remark and indicates to me your agenda here goes way beyond football remember as with any team, Kildare play football in the style that is dictated at any given time by the trend that prevail at the time.

The 90’s let me remind you in Leinster at least was all about running non stop from first to last whistle hand passing and stamina at the time Kildare played with that style.

Accepting that point let no-one come on here and not give due recognition to the epic 3 games a relatively young Kildare team played out with a superb Meath team in the semi-final of Leinster in 1997. The second game in particular will always remain in my memory for the intensity of the battle that day where Kildare 6 points up starting the second period of extra time were pinned back by the Jody Devine show and had to settle for a draw in the end. I know I'm sticking my neck out here but I believe that if Kildare had got over Meath on the first of these 3 epic games they definitely would have gone on to AI glory that year as it was with Meath playing themselves out in the epic encounter they lost to Offaly in the LF only for Kerry to win a handy AI in the end that year through the boot of Maurice Fitzgerald.
Kildare were also involved with Dublin in fantastic games around that period.
LEINSTER FOOTBALL IN THE 90’s actually hit a purple patch in this period with the Leinster Champions contesting 8 of the 10 finals. With a success rate of only 33% however this was more down to the intensity of the competition in Leinster during this period rather than anything else.

I could expand further on why you are so wrong in your views but I suspect you are so hell bent in getting in an opportunist SLAG against Kildare than listening to any other argument.
This message has been edited - 08-jul-2012 @ 17:32
spade caller
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 18:16
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Originally posted by Spiritof28:
Is your submission about football or is it just envy at what Kildare supporters (because for the most part that is where the funding of the Kildare team came from under both Micko and McGeeney) are in the position to provide for their team.
Please don't be so condescending as Kildare has always contributed a great brand of football whither winning or losing this is well respected and accepted by all followers (SJ arrival will not change this style one way or the other)IMO your reference to the efforts of Kildare in the 90’s is a below the belt remark and indicates to me your agenda here goes way beyond football remember as with any team, Kildare play football in the style that is dictated at any given time by the trend that prevail at the time.The 90’s let me remind you in Leinster at least was all about running non stop from first to last whistle hand passing and stamina at the time Kildare played with that style.Accepting that point let no-one come on here and not give due recognition to the epic 3 games a relatively young Kildare team played out with a superb Meath team in the semi-final of Leinster in 1997. The second game in particular will always remain in my memory for the intensity of the battle that day where Kildare 6 points up starting the second period of extra time were pinned back by the Jody Devine show and had to settle for a draw in the end. I know I'm sticking my neck out here but I believe that if Kildare had got over Meath on the first of these 3 epic games they definitely would have gone on to AI glory that year as it was with Meath playing themselves out in the epic encounter they lost to Offaly in the LF only for Kerry to win a handy AI in the end that year through the boot of Maurice Fitzgerald.
Kildare were also involved with Dublin in fantastic games around that period.
LEINSTER FOOTBALL IN THE 90’s actually hit a purple patch in this period with the Leinster Champions contesting 8 of the 10 finals. With a success rate of only 33% however this was more down to the intensity of the competition in Leinster during this period rather than anything else. I could expand further on why you are so wrong in your views but I suspect you are so hell bent in getting in an opportunist SLAG against Kildare than listening to any other argument.

Hit a nerve??
Who are you trying to kid about the "style" of football Kildare played in the 90s. It was turgid, trying to win games with no more than 2 scoring forwards? The "style" Kildare played with is best seen when contrasted with the pure football Galway played to beat them in 98.

As regards envy, are you serious? I don't think any county envies Kildare's financial position.

You shouldn't confuse intensity and closeness in games with quality.
This message has been edited - 08-jul-2012 @ 20:24
Spiritof28
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 21:26
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I will hardly be able to sleep tonight you have unnerved me so much LOL.

I have been involved in football all my sporting life and nothing irks me about it except sometimes the mediocrity that is to be found in the administration and officialdom in the modern game.
Oh and of-course know alls like you.
Seeing as you are hung up on the 90's. Can I remind you that the Kildare team of 98 in order to get to the AI final that year had to beat the AI winners of the previous 3 years Dublin 95 Meath 96 Kerry 98 indeed if there was any fairness the GAA should have nominated Kildare for Sam on those achievement alone.
Believe you me my friend by the time Kildare reached the final that year they were a team that had shifted alot of knocks and were carrying a serious amount of injuries.

While Galway slipped into the final a much fresher team having accounted for such huge powers in the game at the time as Roscommon (Getting a lucky draw and winning the reply in Connacht through a goalkeeping error)and Derry.
I'm not normally drawn into this type of comparison as I respect Galway as AI winners in 98 but I think you should reflect on the facts before coming on here spinning yarns.

I suppose the reason why people still support Kildare in such huge numbers despite their lack of success and history of falling or been helped to fall at the last hurdle they keep bouncing back and having another go.

Roll on next weekend


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spade caller
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 22:07
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Originally posted by Spiritof28:
I will hardly be able to sleep tonight you have unnerved me so much LOL. I have been involved in football all my sporting life and nothing irks me about it except sometimes the mediocrity that is to be found in the administration and officialdom in the modern game.
Oh and of-course know alls like you.
Seeing as you are hung up on the 90's. Can I remind you that the Kildare team of 98 in order to get to the AI final that year had to beat the AI winners of the previous 3 years Dublin 95 Meath 96 Kerry 98 indeed if there was any fairness the GAA should have nominated Kildare for Sam on those achievement alone.
Believe you me my friend by the time Kildare reached the final that year they were a team that had shifted alot of knocks and were carrying a serious amount of injuries.While Galway slipped into the final a much fresher team having accounted for such huge powers in the game at the time as Roscommon (Getting a lucky draw and winning the reply in Connacht through a goalkeeping error)and Derry.

Baaaahahahahahahah

The GAA should have "nominated" Kildare for a Sam Maguire??????????

Galway won because they had a "handy" run?????????

Kildare fans keep turning up in large numbers because

A) they have the largest population outside Cork and Dublin in the 26 counties (no point in talking about Derry, Antrim or Down as a large proportion of those counties aren't exactly enthralled by GAA)
B) because there are a lot of genuine GAA fans.

Unfortunately they've never shown that they have the talent to win an AI and the latest Seánie escapade shows what happens when desperation overtakes ambition
Footy Facts
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Posted: 08-Jul-2012 22:31
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Originally posted by Deeper Meaning:
What goes around comes around. All this GPA professionalism, player transfer markets, pay for play has been given one kick in the teeth today.And I am delighted

You forgot to blame The GPA for rigging the draw for the qualifiers!

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