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Remembering 1992... and a magic moment in football - De Scribe
An Fear Rua
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06-Jul-2012 07:49
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It's not often David gets to beat Goliath in 1992. But it happens. De Scribe fondly recalls such a moment for his native Clare in the summer of 1992...
Remembering 1992... and a magic moment in football - De Scribe
Pog Mahone
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06-Jul-2012 09:12
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Great stuff De Scribe, great memories, a magic moment. Being a little older than yourself, travelling to matches like these for years in the confident expectation of being beaten had become a way of life, the hurlers being our only vague(and League titles in the mid 70s were a long way back) hope, and then this happens, unbelievable, incredible, virtually impossible to adequately describe the moment. These were our friends, neighbours and neighbours children beating the legendary might of Kerry.
I would never want to miss the possibility of revisiting that moment, it can never be as good as the first one, but still. So I'll be in Limerick again on Sunday, you just never know.....
The Badger
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06-Jul-2012 09:16
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Hon the Banner
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That was my first ever Munster Final, I was only seven but remember it was a glorious sunny day. I was standing in the Ennis end with my father and Godfather, two men that had followed the great team of Micko's back and forth to Croke Park during the golden years. I had grown up in wonder listening to them talk about that great team and its famous victories. I still had a poster of the 1986 All Ireland winning team on my bedroom wall. This was my chance to finally see them in the flesh on a big day out. Even before I ever really became aware about football, I knew Jacko was my favourite player. I used stand out in the garden and tell dad I was him as he hoofed a long ball towards me during kick arounds.
They were more than men in my imagination, they were built up to be superhuman, unbeatable; I guess I was too young to realise we were already halfway through the barren spell. The way my father talked about them you would swear the golden days had never stopped, maybe all of Kerry still thought like that then. There was so many of those greats still hanging around, maybe everyone thought they would have to come good again. Despite their age they were too good not to.
And then Clare beat us. I still remember the look of shock on my father face, as the Clare fans around us went hysterical. I still remember the silent car drive home, later than evening, as the stars came out and from the window of our car on the coast road, you could see bonfires lighting across the Shannon estuary on the Clare hills. I distinctly remember thinking what's all this fuss about Kerry football about. I wouldn't really understand again until the All Ireland of 1997.
Still I'm glad I got to see those men like Nelligan, Jacko and Spillane in the flesh, even if it was at their cruel end. And part of me is glad Clare won and showed what is possible any given Sunday. So UP THE BANNER!!!!
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06-Jul-2012 13:27
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Great stuff from De Scribe and super post thehermit
I remember the day well eventhough I'm from Meath and was only 13 at the time...we'd had our great spell in the late 80's and I wanted Clare to have what we had.
Its strange the way no traditional county can ever write articles like that and an article like that can mean so much to outsiders
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I remember that week so well. We went down to Thurles on the Wednesday night to play Waterford in the Munster U21 Final. It was arguably the ebst U21 team that had come out of Clare in some time and hopes were very high that we'd win it, but waterford beat us by 2 points. So gutted coming home after it. A neighbour of ours drove myself and the brother down on the Sunday, I went in behind the goal. When the goals went in, 2 clouds of dust rose from the gravel from all the jumping around the place, it was a very dry week and day. It was I suppose the start of a very special decade in the county, those years were are so fondly remembered. Coming from nowhere to win a Munster Football Final, then 3 years later winning a hurling All Ireland and vying with offaly for bragging rights up to the end of the decade. Very special times, mroe innocent times in a lot of ways. Something died in Ireland with the arrival of the whole Celtic Tiger facade. Normal people seemed to become material-obsessed overnight, a lot of fellas thought of themselves as high fliers and turned into pure and utter w@nkers. Sport became even sonmething to "market" and out of the blue we ahd the whole Munster bandwagon and fat clowns in pubs and bars sitting down drinking pints talking sh1te about rugby. Give me the 90s any day, without doubt, the golden decade of the GAA in both hurling and football.
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Originally posted by N16:
Give me the 90s any day, without doubt, the golden decade of the GAA in both hurling and football.
Agreed, when you think of it Clare, Offaly, Wexford, Meath, Down, Donegal, Derry, Galway, Dublin all have great memories. Kildare, Mayo, Tyrone and Limerick can look back with pride even if they didnt get the big prize. Great times growing up seeing all that.
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06-Jul-2012 14:58
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Originally posted by N16:
Give me the 90s any day, without doubt, the golden decade of the GAA in both hurling and football.
1990s and one All Ireland? You'll excuse me N 16, if I look back more fondly on the 2000s and our Golden Decade!
Best of luck to Clare on Sunday though! Hopefully a day for the underdogs: Kerry minors, Clare footballers and Galway hurlers!!
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Originally posted by thehermit:
1990s and one All Ireland? You'll excuse me N 16, if I look back more fondly on the 2000s and our Golden Decade!Best of luck to Clare on Sunday though! Hopefully a day for the underdogs: Kerry minors, Clare footballers and Galway hurlers!!
God be de God, did i ever think i would hear a kerryman say they are underdogs in a munster final..ha how times have changed hermit!
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Originally posted by The Badger:
Agreed, when you think of it Clare, Offaly, Wexford, Meath, Down, Donegal, Derry, Galway, Dublin all have great memories. Kildare, Mayo, Tyrone and Limerick can look back with pride even if they didnt get the big prize. Great times growing up seeing all that.
Yerra 1990 wasnt a bad year!.....
thehermit
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Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
God be de God, did i ever think i would hear a kerryman say they are underdogs in a munster final..ha how times have changed hermit!
Time makes fools of us all rebel! Hopefully the Banner will be making fools of ye on Sunday!!!
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06-Jul-2012 19:28
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i was 19
it was my first munster football final 1992
i drank loads of porter up to that final
and loads more after the final whistle..
roll on the banner
Best of Luck to Alan and the team and management in the gaelic grounds on sunday
frasiercrane
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06-Jul-2012 20:12
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Originally posted by N16:
I remember that week so well. We went down to Thurles on the Wednesday night to play Waterford in the Munster U21 Final. It was arguably the ebst U21 team that had come out of Clare in some time and hopes were very high that we'd win it, but waterford beat us by 2 points. So gutted coming home after it. A neighbour of ours drove myself and the brother down on the Sunday, I went in behind the goal. When the goals went in, 2 clouds of dust rose from the gravel from all the jumping around the place, it was a very dry week and day. It was I suppose the start of a very special decade in the county, those years were are so fondly remembered. Coming from nowhere to win a Munster Football Final, then 3 years later winning a hurling All Ireland and vying with offaly for bragging rights up to the end of the decade. Very special times, mroe innocent times in a lot of ways. Something died in Ireland with the arrival of the whole Celtic Tiger facade. Normal people seemed to become material-obsessed overnight, a lot of fellas thought of themselves as high fliers and turned into pure and utter w@nkers. Sport became even sonmething to "market" and out of the blue we ahd the whole Munster bandwagon and fat clowns in pubs and bars sitting down drinking pints talking sh1te about rugby. Give me the 90s any day, without doubt, the golden decade of the GAA in both hurling and football.
I think football and hurling both peaked in entertainment value and variety in the 1990's.8 different counties won the football championship and 6 won the hurling.13 counties won a senior all ireland in the 90s add to that great breakthroughs at underage level by Armagh,Laois,Westmeath and Tyrone.Cavan and Offaly winning provincial titles in 97 Clare and Leitrim winning provinicla tiles in 92 and 94 and the beginning of Waterfords revival and Limerick having a top notch team in the mid 90's.It was a great period to be starting out as a GAA fan in.
Off the top of my head 26 of the 32 counties won either a senior all ireland,underage all ireland or a senior provincial title in the 90's.The ones to miss out were Monaghan,Fermanagh,Longford,Carlow (Eire Og won a few Leinster clubs),Wicklow (Baltinglass won a club all ireland) and Louth
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I admire your optimism Scribe but I can't help feeling it was a different situation then. That was a big physically imposing Clare team and Maughan had them doing fitness drills that were over and above what other counties were doing at the time. I think it was a perfect storm. We had some nice nippy forwards blended in as well in the best west clare tradition.
Kerry had beaten a fancied Cork team and despite talk of transition would have felt that they were on the way back up again. They might have been a bit complacent.
You sensed Clare were building very well over the previous 12 months, what with winning the all ireland b, and playing against good teams in the upper divisions.
At the present Clare don' get to play the likes of Meath or Down regularly- theyre not testing themselves against the best.
I was on sandwich making duties working at the Queens Hotel that summer when the team used to come in for food after training. You could sense an enthusiasm there that would have been absent before.
The Clare team tomorrow might well win- its 15 against 15 and all that but its harder to see it than it was in 92. I remember being fairly optimistic that we would be there or thereabouts in 92, and lamenting that a great talent, David Keane, was out with injury and what a massive loss that would prove to be. But they made light of it.
The craic and joy we got out of that day will live long in the memory. it wasnt like 95 munster final when rather than joy it was more like this immense relief. In 92 there was no great pressure on the footballers. I remember for each goal going in the absolute elation around me. I was 16. I remember we were laughing at the novelty of it all.
1 month later against Dublin the first Clare senior team to grace the Croke Park sod in 60 years strode out of the tunnel and the noise that greeted them is something I will never forget.
That team showed everyone in clare, and elsewhere what could be done, with the right application.
Best of luck to our footballers tomorrow and I hope they leave it all out there on the pitch, regardless of outcome.
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07-Jul-2012 11:43
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Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
Yerra 1990 wasnt a bad year!.....
99 finished well too
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Originally posted by The Badger:
99 finished well too
did indeed badger boy..liam finished as he started.....
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Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
did indeed badger boy..liam finished as he started.....
Had a feeling you'd conveniently ignore the other final that year
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Yes I remember it well as I was home and at a nephews wedding in Athenry that weekend.Some of the Clare lads there told me they had very high hopes against Kerry that Sunday and being that they had a good bit of drink taken I paid them no mind.I loved that Kerry team who were the best by a country mile to ever have played the game and even though they were well past their prime it came as an extreme shock to see them well beaten by Clare.We celebrated the victory in proper style.I remember saying to the brother how unusual that it was the footballers and not the hurlers that finally made the big breakthrough in Munster.Little did I know that day the real joy that lay ahead for us with the hurlers very shortly.Saw that match a year or so ago for the first time on TG4
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