Originally posted by sandy:
Are Cork the only team that have this Rule sussed?Colm O Rourke said all 3 goals illegal but Cork have the inside information that the Referee will not implement the new rule if the player inside the square before the ball has been kicked does not interfere with play but Nick Murphy goal????? No No No Cute Cork Hoors

Originally posted by greendolphin:
O Rourke is still bitter to Cork after 1990. One of the goals shouldn't of stood imo. But these lads get paid to talk sh!te when there's no need to I suppose.

Originally posted by Smallsquare Bigball:
O'Rourke highlighted that Murphy was inside for all 3, so technically could have been frees. Think he was making a laugh though.

For the first two goals he doesn't really matter if Murphy was in the sqaure as a free can only be awarded of the player is interfering with play. In both cases the ball went to the far side of the goals and Murphy's position has no bearing on the play.The first two goals were fine. The third was not a square ball.

Originally posted by The Pope of Chilli Town:
This is not correct. There is no part of the rule that states that a player must be interfering with play before a free can be awarded for a square ball with the exception of if the player in question legally entered the square and the ball subsequently left the square and returned before the player had the opportunity to leave the square. He is then allowed to be in the square as long as he doesn't interfere. This was not the case for the first two Cork goals. However, one would think that a degree of common sense should apply in these cases but, technically, the ref would have been fully within his rights to disallow these goals.

Originally posted by greendolphin:
O Rourke is still bitter to Cork after 1990. One of the goals shouldn't of stood imo. But these lads get paid to talk sh!te when there's no need to I suppose.

This message has been edited - 09-jul-2012 @ 12:26

Originally posted by stones_off:
The old rule was if the ball goes over the bar it is ok be in the square, but if a goal is scored then it is a free out.

Originally posted by bp:

Fom reading the above rule ( 4.9 ) on technical fouls and then looking at the Sunday game footage, it appears that all three of Cork's goals should have been disallowed.

Originally posted by daylo:
dont know lad
we lost and should take our beating hopefully we can go well in the qualifier
its hard to take but we must move on ...

Originally posted by bp:
I fully accept all of that daylo,
but at the same time it's disappointing to suffer at officals failure to implement a rule that was after all only amended in the first place to make their jobs easier and more straightforward.
If it had happened in a tighter game, or if it happens again from here on in there will be uproar.

Originally posted by daylo:
i know bud
i have been going to games now for quite some time
and tis hard when you get knock like that to pick ur self up again
very dissapointing i know as u said does not make things much easier after yesterdays fiasco

Originally posted by bp:

Not wishing to sound pedantic, but ....
the third goal wouldn't have stood as without Murphy's intervention it would have been a fistpass to the goal.Now don't get me wrong, Cork were the better team yesterday and fully deserved their win, that being said it surely isn't too much to expect that the officials appointed to do such a big match would be fully versed in the rules that they are charged with implementing.
If teams and officials don't get fully up to speed on this mattter there will be another Meath/Louth incident before the year is out.Best of luck to Cork for Sam,
and also best of luck to Clare for three weeks time.

Originally posted by About a Bicycle:

I agree totally about what should be expected of officials. It is not too much to ask. Without wanting to sound too cocky, or disrespctful to Clare, I think Cork would have won anyway. And, even though it was a Munster final, that will have done Cork a lot of good. Clare showed up our defensive frailties and Counihan can work on that. Cork are improving constantly up front, but the defence still has big question marks. More experienced teams like the Dubs and Kerry will zone in on those weaknesses if they are not worked on. We have a month to work on that and, please God, Canty will be back in some form or other for August.Best of luck in the back door, here's hoping ye see Croke Park.

Originally posted by Bright Vision:
Would the simplest and easiest rule not be to disallow all goals scored inside the small rectangle unless the ball is carried into the square by the scorer

Originally posted by Remy Martin:

Of course it made no difference to the out come but why is there no outcry when it happens against minnows.