Originally posted by kieran73:
May as well open up a thread on this as I havnt noticed one yet . After a minor furore over the venue , the build up has been , in both camps very quiet so far , and after the Leinster final yesterday all sorts of permutations are being touted , but the facts are both teams will have a burning desire to win this game , because you dont get to play at this level if your not too bothered by results or looking to potential games ahead . Waterford do have a couple of injuries , probably the same ones they had going into the game v Clare , but add Ringo to that list . Now many were specualting that if Connors and Darragh Fives were fit that Ringo and Foley would lose out anyway , and that there may have been one other change involving Gavin O'Brien ...but that remains speculation right now . It was mooted by some that Maurice will be going ff , but his ball winning ability is probably needed at hf ( where he gave Maher a torrid time when introduced last year , despite the game being over ) . And last years game has no bearing on sundays , I dont hear a mention of last year around Waterford at all , and from the squad it seems to be a focus on the here and now thankfully . Undoubtedly Tipp are raging favourites for this , but Im quite hopeful that the mistakes in approach made last year wont be replicated , and if Waterford hold their own in the middle third then they have more than a fighting chance .

Originally posted by tipptop:
That's a fair assessment Harry. What was O'Brien's punishment for seeing red the last day?

This message has been edited - 10-jul-2012 @ 10:32

Originally posted by johnny cash:
what are ticket sales like?will the crowd reach 30k? hopefully it will

Originally posted by tipptop:
I think John might be the one to lose out on a start, for no other reason than someone has to if Lar is going to start.. Buggy to move to Full Forward I reckon.

This message has been edited - 10-jul-2012 @ 11:58

Originally posted by Blanco:
He could lose out , but I suspect it could be Geroid as he was first off the last day, and O'Brien is good in the air and normally plays well against Waterford.Then again Lar might not start.It will probably come down to what is happening in training, I am sure the likes of Eoin Kelly are bulling for a chance as well , going by the few interviews he gave just before the Cork games he feels he is far from finished himself although he accepted he deserved to be dropped for the last day.It going to be difficult for Declan to keep everyone happy, I hear that Callinan was particular upset that he got no game time the last day considering he done well coming on against Limerick and he was man of the man when they played Cork 12 months ago.Where he has a lot of options in the forwards not so many in defense , and I hear that Micky Cahill and Thomas Stapleton are to have their fitness assessed during the week , Cahill has a finger injury and Stapleton a groin strain , both picked up against Cork and neither have trained fully since.

Originally posted by carryharry:
The fact that the Tipp camp are quiet and the players more focused on retaining their postitions is a saving grace really. Otherwise we could be set up for a serious fall.

Originally posted by carryharry:
I would see the fact that a starting 15 is hard to pick as being a hugely positive sign for management.It breeds serious competition in training matches and build intensity no end.As regards Waterford, the whole build up to this games resembles 2002 in ways i think, not much hope for Waterford but still an awful lot for them to put right ala last year. Under those circumstances Waterford are very dangerous imo.The fact that the Tipp camp are quiet and the players more focused on retaining their postitions is a saving grace really. Otherwise we could be set up for a serious fall.

Originally posted by lovelypoint:
Well, I can only agree that competition for places is a good thing, and a problem most managers would rather have. That said, I can imagine it can be a distraction when you have 20/ 22 players of a similar level, but perhaps none standing out. I guess it was this last point I was getting at, seeing Shane McGrath, Brendan Maher and perhaps even Padraic Mahers relatively muted performances the last day, off the top of my head, in addition to players like Eoin Kelly not being a definite starter, which made me wonder was uncertainty over team selection a good or a bad thing. The buildup is definitely quiet alright, and am curious to see how Tipp, as well as Waterford, perform on Sunday. From the occasional murmurs, it would seem there might be a little discontent in the Tipp camp, although we can hardly speak in Waterford after all the upheaval this year. That seems to have settled down now for Waterford, but as mentioned right now the Tipp panel is stronger than the Waterford one, so Sunday will be interesting, and hopefully competitive! :)

Originally posted by PaulG:
To be fair I though both Shane McGrath & Brendan Maher were good the last day especially Shane. They may have been a little off the high standards of 2010 but to say their performances were muted is incorrect in my opinion.

Originally posted by nlgbbbblth:
What is the story with Tony Browne? Is he likely to line out?