Originally posted by Limerick Rake:
A cap of 25,000 Euro should be placed on a Houses Social welfare with Childrens allowance only paid for first three kids....the situation now with Traveller famalies with ten & twelve children pulling in up to 100,000 with all the benefits..dole..childs all...carers allowance etc etc is breaking the country...no wonder none of them want to work....or travel for that matter

Originally posted by bp:

Should social welfare be subject to a tax/levy when it passes a certain threshold ?It must get very frustrating for a working man, who is busting his ball-ox getting out there and paying bills, to have to come home and turn on the radio to hear some waster who has no intention of working boasting about how much better off he is by being "a stay at home dad" and virtually ridiculing anyone who doesn't do the same.

Originally posted by Cheesus:
How much is paid out each year in rent allowance? The dole is enough.

Originally posted by Hitch:
What radio station was all that broadcast on?

Originally posted by bp:
4 FM,

Originally posted by Dublin_Ultra:
I would support a reduction in welfare benefits such as jobseekers (which would affect me) but only if public sector pay is attacked as well. The reforms and savings achived by Croke Park Agreement should have been achieved under benchmarking. Increments are slowly briniging salary levels up to pre-CPA levels. When the HSE have to make €300m savings over the next few months the savings will have to come from the remaining 20% that is not used up on salaries which means more pain and misery.
All budget corrections like this will have to do the same, salaries/staff numbers are untouchable. I imagine the founding fathers of the union movement in Ireland must roll over in their graves at the idea that the vulnerable will suffer while the unions threaten mass chaos to protect exorbitant wages during a recession

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
I don't accept that. I've made the point on here before, one that is easily checkable on the Department's own website, that a mrried man, unemployed with two kids gets over €22,000 in direct benefits a year. For a forty hour week that equates to €10.57, €2 more than the minimum wage and there are plenty of people out there working for that money. The idea that a household where no one works should be better off than one where someone is working for even €10 an hour (and paying tax) is laughable.

Originally posted by Deiseallstar:
Isint it interesting that no one comes up with a recomendation to cut the wages of the big boys, those in the C.I.F Ibec, Senior Civil Servants, Bank Managers,Political Advisors that no one voted for, Failed ministers and TDs who bailed out with massive pensions and hand outs.
No calls to have our so called public Representavies who have no power or money reined in, yet they can pocket Hundrets of Thousants of Euro in wages and expences for their greedy selfs. My County Council Forked out 640.0000 between 23 Lazy Buggers last year you can multiply that by another id say 40 Local Authoritys and and see the cost of our so called political process.
We had another promise from FG/Lab to abolish the white elephant they called the senate but they backed off as if their arse were on fire.
No its easier to call for cuts in social welfare.or cut backs on the medical card as most of the above will never be so poor to qualify for either.
But bet your bottom dollar they will look for it anyway Its a rotten old Country we are now living in.

Originally posted by Deiseallstar:
Isint it interesting that no one comes up with a recomendation to cut the wages of the big boys, those in the C.I.F Ibec, Senior Civil Servants, Bank Managers,Political Advisors that no one voted for, Failed ministers and TDs who bailed out with massive pensions and hand outs.
No calls to have our so called public Representavies who have no power or money reined in, yet they can pocket Hundrets of Thousants of Euro in wages and expences for their greedy selfs. My County Council Forked out 640.0000 between 23 Lazy Buggers last year you can multiply that by another id say 40 Local Authoritys and and see the cost of our so called political process.
We had another promise from FG/Lab to abolish the white elephant they called the senate but they backed off as if their arse were on fire.
No its easier to call for cuts in social welfare.or cut backs on the medical card as most of the above will never be so poor to qualify for either.
But bet your bottom dollar they will look for it anyway Its a rotten old Country we are now living in.

This message has been edited - 18-jul-2012 @ 21:24

Originally posted by ProjX:
Why cannot Dole people get a job after 3 months, when there are so many available jobs?

Originally posted by Deiseallstar:
Isint it interesting that no one comes up with a recomendation to cut the wages of the big boys, those in the C.I.F Ibec, Senior Civil Servants, Bank Managers,Political Advisors that no one voted for, Failed ministers and TDs who bailed out with massive pensions and hand outs.
No calls to have our so called public Representavies who have no power or money reined in, yet they can pocket Hundrets of Thousants of Euro in wages and expences for their greedy selfs. My County Council Forked out 640.0000 between 23 Lazy Buggers last year you can multiply that by another id say 40 Local Authoritys and and see the cost of our so called political process.
We had another promise from FG/Lab to abolish the white elephant they called the senate but they backed off as if their arse were on fire.
No its easier to call for cuts in social welfare.or cut backs on the medical card as most of the above will never be so poor to qualify for either.
But bet your bottom dollar they will look for it anyway Its a rotten old Country we are now living in.

This message has been edited - 19-jul-2012 @ 13:55

Originally posted by Limerick Rake:
the larger the family the more you would be better off....in the case of people with ten children you would require a wage of over 50K to justify going to work?....
Seems like people want to only give childrens allowance to travellers and increase taxs for those who persist in working?

Originally posted by dubliner 2:
Child benefit for the rich (any household bringing in over €40,000 a year) is laughable.

There are about 291,000 public servants. Well over half earn less than €50,000 a year. I do not consider that to be an exhorbitant wage. But the ones at the top, social welfare and pensions all need to be tackled before those bringing home €35,000 a year or less are touched again.

Originally posted by centreforward:
So what you're saying is €50k a year is not an exorbitant wage but it puts you deep in the rich category when it comes to child benefit?

Originally posted by ProjX:
Dole people should get nothing after 3 months on the dole.Why cannot Dole people get a job after 3 months, when there are so many available jobs?Apparently most illegals here are employed. What's wrong with the Dole people that they cannot / will not work?Perhaps we could switch the citizenship of the employed illegals with the unemployed legally here dole people. Then the Dole people could be expelled fron Ireland.