Originally posted by gorgeous gus:
Time and time again,serious Limerick underage hurling teams fail to shine,a serious team on paper tonight again failed to perform to their capabilities,is it poor management,is it too many matches,too much training,stage fright,lack of balls,i cant see why this team tonight and minor and under 21 teams of the last 4 years havn't won an all Ireland.

Originally posted by gorgeous gus:
Time and time again,serious Limerick underage hurling teams fail to shine,a serious team on paper tonight again failed to perform to their capabilities,is it poor management,is it too many matches,too much training,stage fright,lack of balls,i cant see why this team tonight and minor and under 21 teams of the last 4 years havn't won an all Ireland.

Originally posted by gorgeous gus:
Time and time again,serious Limerick underage hurling teams fail to shine,a serious team on paper tonight again failed to perform to their capabilities,is it poor management,is it too many matches,too much training,stage fright,lack of balls,i cant see why this team tonight and minor and under 21 teams of the last 4 years havn't won an all Ireland.

This message has been edited - 18-jul-2012 @ 21:53

Originally posted by theface2010:
What a ridiculous topic. What makes a great underage team? Limerick U-21 10 years ago was a great underage team because they won 3 AI's. How can a team that has only played 1 match be a great team? Typical of a lot of attitudes in Limerick where people seem quicker than most to blow players up before sh1tting all over them the first chance they get.

Originally posted by Hitch:
Just as well you edited that one Face!

This message has been edited - 18-jul-2012 @ 23:02

Originally posted by kieran73:
What made them a great team to start with ?

Originally posted by theblack&amber:
Good question.Perhaps the fact they had Dowling, Downes and Hannon on the team hyped them up a bit.

This message has been edited - 19-jul-2012 @ 08:03

Originally posted by Hurling Veteran:
This result was a dose of reality. Make no mistake about it. Our supporters have been very critical of this defeat but the supporters must blame themselves for building one hit wonders into superstars and placing them on a pedestal. The mistakes of 10 years ago have not been learned. There is no drink involved now but there is similar foolishness. Unlike many supporters, I try to believe that all players gave 100% last night and there was none of this primadonna stuff that they are senior players now and do not need to bother with under 21. Willie Griffin and Tom O'Callaghan were badly treated because they were not fashionable Ard Scoil or LSH panel names. I thought our underage squads had moved away from the politics of the situation but after a couple of things last night I am not sure. I got sucked into the hype from last year and believed we would win last night. This result in hindsight should have been predictable but we allowed ourselves to be blinded by propaganda and hype. These players have never produced at their own age playing for Limerick. It is easy for Donal O'Grady to pontificate on TG4 but he has only worked with some of these guys for one year and does not have the same experience as those who brought them up through underage. Sean O'Brien was a disappointment and he will not make it at senior level unless he delivers consistently. WHat has he achieved since he made the LSH panel? Mark Carmody needs to revise the method in which he holds his hurley because he will not survive at senior level on his workrate alone. This is basic underage stuff. Kevin Downes had a great chance running through in the second half and when the two Tipperary defenders came across, he almost lost the ball over the end line. This is senior hurling and he needs to make up his mind. What would Richie Power or Colin Fennelly do in that situation? Declan Hannon decided he wanted to be a graceful ball playing CB and not a marker. Tom Ryan likewise except he gets hooked and blocked too easily. Shane Dowling has not scored from play against decent opposition since he criticised the supporters in a newspaper interview. I saw a stat last week on this site where Niall Moran got 0-3 or more in 18 championship matches for Limerick. Whether Moran gets booed off the field and there has been a long standing agenda to get these guys on the LSH team ahead of him. What has Downes achieved since being left in oceans of space against Waterford? Alan Dempsey tidies things up well but how good is he to win his own battle? It is all very fine to be a colleges star with chicks from Laurel Hill on your arm but this is mans stuff and it is not even senior hurling. Plenty of thinking for our young players to do. Do they want to be Facebook and Twitter celebs or do they want to play for Limerick. You cannot do both.

Originally posted by Hurling Veteran:
This result was a dose of reality. Make no mistake about it. Our supporters have been very critical of this defeat but the supporters must blame themselves for building one hit wonders into superstars and placing them on a pedestal. The mistakes of 10 years ago have not been learned. There is no drink involved now but there is similar foolishness. Unlike many supporters, I try to believe that all players gave 100% last night and there was none of this primadonna stuff that they are senior players now and do not need to bother with under 21. Willie Griffin and Tom O'Callaghan were badly treated because they were not fashionable Ard Scoil or LSH panel names. I thought our underage squads had moved away from the politics of the situation but after a couple of things last night I am not sure. I got sucked into the hype from last year and believed we would win last night. This result in hindsight should have been predictable but we allowed ourselves to be blinded by propaganda and hype. These players have never produced at their own age playing for Limerick. It is easy for Donal O'Grady to pontificate on TG4 but he has only worked with some of these guys for one year and does not have the same experience as those who brought them up through underage. Sean O'Brien was a disappointment and he will not make it at senior level unless he delivers consistently. WHat has he achieved since he made the LSH panel? Mark Carmody needs to revise the method in which he holds his hurley because he will not survive at senior level on his workrate alone. This is basic underage stuff. Kevin Downes had a great chance running through in the second half and when the two Tipperary defenders came across, he almost lost the ball over the end line. This is senior hurling and he needs to make up his mind. What would Richie Power or Colin Fennelly do in that situation? Declan Hannon decided he wanted to be a graceful ball playing CB and not a marker. Tom Ryan likewise except he gets hooked and blocked too easily. Shane Dowling has not scored from play against decent opposition since he criticised the supporters in a newspaper interview. I saw a stat last week on this site where Niall Moran got 0-3 or more in 18 championship matches for Limerick. Whether Moran gets booed off the field and there has been a long standing agenda to get these guys on the LSH team ahead of him. What has Downes achieved since being left in oceans of space against Waterford? Alan Dempsey tidies things up well but how good is he to win his own battle? It is all very fine to be a colleges star with chicks from Laurel Hill on your arm but this is mans stuff and it is not even senior hurling. Plenty of thinking for our young players to do. Do they want to be Facebook and Twitter celebs or do they want to play for Limerick. You cannot do both.