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The Dark Knight Rises
frasiercrane
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20-Jul-2012 17:12
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Just back from it.Very good film, takes a bit of time to get going but all and all a satisfactory end to one of the best film trilogys of all time.Anne Hathaway is hot as Catwoman.Not as good as The Dark Knight but then not many films and it woudl be hard to have villain as good as Heath Ledgers Joker.
staycalm
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20-Jul-2012 17:13
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Whats it about Frasier?
Rebel CNC
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20-Jul-2012 17:15
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Originally posted by staycalm:
Whats it about Frasier?
A rom-com with lots of leather by all accounts!
theface2010
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20-Jul-2012 17:17
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Going to it this evening-can't fudging wait!!!!!
staycalm
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From the description it sounds like that alright. Must be a well known film to deserve its own thread
labane1917
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20-Jul-2012 17:19
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Very good movie, and yes Heath Ledger would have made it even better. A movie like the first two you could watch over and over. The ending is spectacular.
staycalm
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20-Jul-2012 17:29
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Googled it. Batman. Jesus I didnt realise that thing was still going. I went to see the first one about 20 years ago. They really dragged the @rse out of it, another one released 20 years on
Jack Donaghy GE
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20-Jul-2012 17:31
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The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated films of all time.
Rebel CNC
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Lads - you're a bit old now for Batman comics and the like.
A Friday night is not for the cinema - get down to the local pub and enjoy the scenery on a fine summer's evening.
Keanes Road
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20-Jul-2012 17:35
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Originally posted by Jack Donaghy GE:
The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated films of all time.
Not as overrated as Ledgers performance.
yankeelad
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20-Jul-2012 18:30
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It got an excellent review in this mornings paper.I pretty much liked all of the previous Batman movies but the last one with Ledger was for me at least the best of them all. Apparently it was not up to that good old boys standards out in Denver who decided to take out his frustrations on a bunch of innocent movie goers.This is the end result over and over again of the stupid right to bear arms and bottom line is after all the hand wringing by our corrupt politicians who are in the NRA's backpocket is over the exact same tragedy will unfold very shortly in some other town down the road.
Yojimbo
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I don't always agree with him but I suspect that if I did decide to check it out, I might find myself agreeing with much of the San Francisco Chronicle's Mick La Salle's review
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Review-The-Dark-Knight-Rises-mostly-falls-flat-3717149.php
There is ambition behind "The Dark Knight Rises." Director Christopher Nolan and his collaborators distill everything that has happened in our world in the past four years - everything since "The Dark Knight" debuted in 2008 - and render it in nightmare terms. In doing so, they try, in the realm of fantasy, to tap into the fears underlying modern life.
In "The Dark Knight," the antecedent was 9/11: The vision of civic chaos and of the unrelenting, unremitting evil embodied by Heath Ledger's the Joker expressed, in popular art, Americans deepest terrors in the first decade of this century. But in the final installment of Nolan's Batman trilogy, the antecedent is the financial crisis, a much more muddled and less dramatic ongoing event. And it makes for a much more muddled and less dramatic movie ... that goes on and on and on.
For about half its running time, it's reasonably entertaining, but the other half - inevitably, the second half - is something of a slog. The movie is self-important but with little ultimate importance, and sentimental without much in the way of human feeling. But it has its moments - at 165 minutes it had better - plus Anne Hathaway, enjoyable throughout as the movie's nicely reimagined Catwoman.
A central weakness of "Dark Knight Rises," when compared to the other films is the absence of a compelling, complicated villain. In place of Ledger's Joker, we find Tom Hardy as Bane, a bald muscleman with his face and nose covered in a black leather mask. Bane is a formidable presence and as evil as they come, but he has a one-note personality, without humor or nuance. Even worse, with his voice distorted by that mask, he sounds like Scooby-Doo, which means that whenever he speaks for more than a sentence or two, he sounds unintentionally funny, not terrifying.
"The Dark Knight Rises" takes place eight years after the conclusion of "The Dark Knight." Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) walks with a limp and lives in glum seclusion, while Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman), though presiding over a peaceful Gotham City, nurses a haunted sense of inner compromise. It's a good time for the dark forces to strike, which they do, though exactly how they strike is a little hard to follow.
Bane's dastardly plot involves a massive transfer of wealth using the stock exchange. It consists further of inciting civil unrest and taking control of cutting-edge technologies that can be used for good or ill. Nolan's critique of Wall Street is implicit in the portrayal of the rapacious and arrogant Wall Street traders, but some uneasiness about the Occupy movement is evident, as well, in the film's depiction of people's tribunals. However, to say that the movie steers a middle course would be to impose coherence on what seems more like a scattered set of fears and impressions.
In the end, the heart of the movie - both in its viewpoint and its emotion - centers on the character of Catwoman, who starts the film as a socialist-anarchist anticipating the coming revolution, and then experiences a series of changes. The journey is to Nolan's credit: It's the first time someone actually thought through the role of Catwoman in the writing stage and gave a good actress something to play; that is, beyond the demented sexpot of tradition.
Marion Cotillard, as one of Bruce Wayne's sympathetic business associates, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, as an aggressive rookie cop, also make strong impressions. Others don't fare as well. Bale's Batman has always been somber, but now the depression seems clinical. His energy is a drag on the movie, though some may like that. The movie also suffers from sequel-itis, in that everyone gets his moment, and these moments tend to showcase the characters' deep sensitivity. For example, Michael Caine as Alfred is so worried about Bruce Wayne that he can't seem to talk to him without getting choked up. After the first time, this becomes funny.
Moments are stretched. Every recollection must be illustrated by a flashback. Character motivations shift on a dime, and if you understand even half of what's going on - not generally, but specifically - you'll be doing better than most. For long stretches, there's little that's compelling and no point of the story to resolve or hold our interest beyond a vague concern for the fate of Gotham City. After two hours, this concern fades.
But two things keep "The Dark Knight Rises" from being dismissed as overlong, overstuffed and tiresome, though it is. The first is Nolan's visual mastery, his mix of the real and the fantastic in his vision of the modern city, and his camera movements which somehow suggest three dimensions without 3-D. It's the world from "Inception," imposing and silver, dizzying and impersonal, but not without beauty.
The movie's second virtue may be disguised as a fault. In its borderline incoherence, in its operatic and yet confused rendering of the financial crisis, "The Dark Knight Rises" might better encapsulate the 2012 mind-set than a movie that makes complete sense.
frasiercrane
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He got it wrong that reviewer because its the earlier part of the movie that is the weakest half.The second half rattles along nicely, the first half is too muddled although the opening scene is incredible.The villain is a big issue as no disrespect to Tom Hardy but I could have been Bane if I bulked up as the role requires little acting and his voice is distorted throughout the entire film so a good voice isn't even required for the role.One thing I noticed with some of the reviews is some reviewers complained there were no laughs in the film, they obviously hadn't seen the first 2 films in the trilogy as there were no laughs in those films either.I though Michael Caines performance was outstanding.
bosco32
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Originally posted by Yojimbo:
I don't always agree with him but I suspect that if I did decide to check it out, I might find myself agreeing with much of the San Francisco Chronicle's Mick La Salle's review.
God forbid you'd make a judgement before you know anything about it! This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.
Yojimbo
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22-Jul-2012 14:43
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Originally posted by bosco32:
God forbid you'd make a judgement before you know anything about it! This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.
Not half as ridiculous as going to see something when you don't know anything about it!
Yojimbo
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Originally posted by frasiercrane:
I though Michael Caines performance was outstanding.
I hated Michael Caines performance in 'Begins': thought it was too much Michael Caine, and not enough Albert
He used to be a really good actor but he's coasting too much these days
Hitch
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22-Jul-2012 14:52
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Emma is starring in 'The Amazing Spider-Man'. 10 outta 10 is my review!
Jimmy Conway
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Went to see it tonight. Very good stand alone movie, not as good as the previous movie imo .Ledgers Character was a much better baddie than Hardys. Worth paying the admission to see Anne Hathaway bent over the motorbike.
frasiercrane
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Originally posted by Jimmy Conway:
Worth paying the admission to see Anne Hathaway bent over the motorbike.
+1
inbetweeners
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This is a very good film but is the worst of the three. I knew it wouldn't work when I heard catwoman was in it, sorry but female action characters just don't work. I couldn't give a ---- what she was bent over. Right on cue when the bomb is at 2 mins she starts slobbering all over him. Get the ---- off this film woman. Ending was all over d place and the main villain Bane went without as much of a whimper. Batman gets rid of the villains not some bitch on a bike. First film was nine out of ten, second one ten out of ten brilliant, this a 7 out of ten.
moggy14
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Originally posted by Yojimbo:
I hated Michael Caines performance in 'Begins': thought it was too much Michael Caine, and not enough Albert
He used to be a really good actor but he's coasting too much these days
Well he's not coasting along ala Samuel L and Nicky Cage to be fair. I thought Michael Caine was excellent in TDKR and was the source for alot of the emotional moments. I went to see it twice as the first time I wasnt so sure, I thought the film was a bit disjointed. Went to see it a second time and really really enjoyed it. The acting was excellent. Bane's role was a tough one in the first place considering the mask covering up pretty much all facial expressions but Anne Hathaway was a revelation considering the pre screening furore over her being cast as Catwoman. I enjoyed it but The Dark Knight still tops it in my view.
Yojimbo
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Originally posted by moggy14:
Well he's not coasting along ala Samuel L and Nicky Cage to be fair. I thought Michael Caine was excellent in TDKR and was the source for alot of the emotional moments. I went to see it twice as the first time I wasnt so sure, I thought the film was a bit disjointed. Went to see it a second time and really really enjoyed it. The acting was excellent. Bane's role was a tough one in the first place considering the mask covering up pretty much all facial expressions but Anne Hathaway was a revelation considering the pre screening furore over her being cast as Catwoman. I enjoyed it but The Dark Knight still tops it in my view.
I didn't see the second film either but the best performance I've seen by any actor in a Batman film was by Danny de Vito in 'Batman Returns'.
I thought Michelle Pfeiffer was an excellent, scarily dark, Catwoman but Lee Meriwether will always be my favourite Catwoman
Jack Donaghy GE
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Originally posted by inbetweeners:
This is a very good film but is the worst of the three. I knew it wouldn't work when I heard catwoman was in it, sorry but female action characters just don't work. I couldn't give a ---- what she was bent over. Right on cue when the bomb is at 2 mins she starts slobbering all over him. Get the ---- off this film woman.
Catwoman, and Hathaways performance, was by far the best thing about this film.
moggy14
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Originally posted by Yojimbo:
I didn't see the second film either but the best performance I've seen by any actor in a Batman film was by Danny de Vito in 'Batman Returns'.
I thought Michelle Pfeiffer was an excellent, scarily dark, Catwoman but Lee Meriwether will always be my favourite Catwoman
Different vibe to those films pre-Nolan Jim, although I thought Jack Nicholson was outstanding as the Joker, then again he's usually brilliant in everything
murraymarmalade
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I havn't watched any of the Batman movies, although like everyone else watched the television series in my childhood. I hear people talking about Batman, The Joker and Cat Woman but never a word about Robin. Is he still about and if not what happened to him ?
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