Othe Waterford and Cork fans shouting for them.Between Kilkenny, Limerick and Waterford I'd say you had about 27-28000 there yesterday with Cork adding another 20000 on their own (there was now way there was only 38000 at the games yesterday, no way could you have fitted another 15000 in there.)

Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
I myself think it goes back to the 2002 National league final when the Kilkenny lads kept the socks up and the Cork lads had them down in protest........hasnt been the same since......

Originally posted by bluesky:
you will always get a big crowd from waterford or limerick
as they are so long without an all ireland senior title
kilkenny are sick of winning them like kerry in the football

Originally posted by Collig:
And you're right re success breeding jealously, ye should take it as a compliment.

Originally posted by Legalalien:
I don't think Donal Og's book and press interviews from the 2000 era Cork players have helped Cork KK relationships. Sad really as there was a great respect and rivalry in the 1970s-1980s. Maybe it will die away when Kk start to come back to the pack and the last of the older Cork brigade are gone.In Munster there is definitely an anybody but Kilkenny feeling. And sure we wouldn't want to have it any other way. Sucess breeds jealousy. Lets hope for more sucess.

Originally posted by cerebus:
Yerra, tis some consolation in fairness.

Originally posted by Over 35 hurler:

Nor did kk people taking pictures with Liam in front of the Cork gear van in nowlan park,after the strike!!.It goes back as far as the early 00s when the GPa was starting up and both teams were supposed to mark player dissatisfaction by leaving their socks down in their league match,all bar Eddie Brennan as far as I can remember pulled out from the kk side.I am open to correction on that but that is how I recall it.

Originally posted by uncle betty:
Was it Eddie ? I had it in my mind that it was Andy Comerford, wouldn't swear to it though.

Originally posted by Collig:
It was Comerford alright. DJ was supportive too but he was injured that day I think. Brennan was also in favour of the GPA at the time.

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Originally posted by Blanco:
Brennan was always in favour of the GPA , in fact in interviews he came across as quite militant at times in his support of them.I always found it a bit amusing when during the strikes and after the strikes etc when some journalists used to put down some of the Cork players and pointed to their involvement in the GPA as a sort of distraction from their playing duties , quite often they would compare them to KK and say they concentrate on hurling only and none of the other messing about with GPA etc , where as in reality some of the KK players were the biggest supporters of the GPA.

This message has been edited - 31-jul-2012 @ 09:33

Originally posted by theblack&amber:
Actually only about half of the Kilkenny players were supporters of the GPA originally. Some of the Kilkenny players didn't want to have anything to do with it in the beginning, it was the likes of Comerford, Carey and Brennan that got Kilkenny to support it.The GPA was founded on the back of providing player welfare and assuring that players were looked after by the county boards. In that regard the Kilkenny players didn't need the GPA. I remember at the time Peter Barry saying he didn't need to join them as he had good expenses, meals, tracksuits, training gear, hurls and injury insurance, every thing he wanted was covered by the Kilkenny County Board. Contrast that to what the Cork players got off of their County Board pre-strikes and you could see why the Cork lads were so much for the GPA.I don't think it was the socks down thin myself that led to the current antagonism between Cork and Kilkenny. I think it was more of a build up of a rivalry on the basis that for a couple of year both counties were serious contenders for the AI and played each other a fair bit, and with familiarity breeding contempt. There was the guys coming out with comments on both sides that didn't help. Then there was the beating in Nowlan Park which some of the Cork lads took personally rather than just putting it down to an off day (Kilkenny also gave Tipp a similar hiding, they just shrugged it off, the next two Kilkenny/Tipp games that year were very close).Personally though, I still find the Cork lads great craic and create a great atmosphere at the matches, I don't think the match day attitude of each set of supporter has changed much, there's still the banter and good-natured slagging. The only thing I find has changed is the often over-reactionary response to comments or isolated incidents from both sets of supporters.

Originally posted by theblack&amber:
I don't think the match day attitude of each set of supporter has changed much, there's still the banter and good-natured slagging. The only thing I find has changed is the often over-reactionary response to comments or isolated incidents from both sets of supporters.

Originally posted by Blanco:
To be honest though I think there still is a bit of tension or bitterness more than the normal between KK and Cork these days and I actually think normal service will probably not be resumed until Cork get one over on KK in a big championship match, I think then you will probably see the respect between the two coming back.

Originally posted by Shockcat:
auld fella always said you could "Talk Hurling" with Cork lads and they had regard for "Good Hurling" whereas one particular county only saw their own.Maybe the reemergence of Tipp has rekindled the Cork KK respecct.

Originally posted by Blanco:
Maybe your Auld fella was a bit biased towards Cork by the fact that the other one particular county used to bate 7 shades of s**te out his team every time they played.

Originally posted by theblack&amber:
Actually only about half of the Kilkenny players were supporters of the GPA originally. Some of the Kilkenny players didn't want to have anything to do with it in the beginning, it was the likes of Comerford, Carey and Brennan that got Kilkenny to support it.The GPA was founded on the back of providing player welfare and assuring that players were looked after by the county boards. In that regard the Kilkenny players didn't need the GPA. I remember at the time Peter Barry saying he didn't need to join them as he had good expenses, meals, tracksuits, training gear, hurls and injury insurance, every thing he wanted was covered by the Kilkenny County Board. Contrast that to what the Cork players got off of their County Board pre-strikes and you could see why the Cork lads were so much for the GPA.I don't think it was the socks down thin myself that led to the current antagonism between Cork and Kilkenny. I think it was more of a build up of a rivalry on the basis that for a couple of year both counties were serious contenders for the AI and played each other a fair bit, and with familiarity breeding contempt. There was the guys coming out with comments on both sides that didn't help. Then there was the beating in Nowlan Park which some of the Cork lads took personally rather than just putting it down to an off day (Kilkenny also gave Tipp a similar hiding, they just shrugged it off, the next two Kilkenny/Tipp games that year were very close).Personally though, I still find the Cork lads great craic and create a great atmosphere at the matches, I don't think the match day attitude of each set of supporter has changed much, there's still the banter and good-natured slagging. The only thing I find has changed is the often over-reactionary response to comments or isolated incidents from both sets of supporters.

Originally posted by Snoop99:
The Kilkenny support last sunday was dire, Cork and Waterford and Limerick were all well represented. A lot of the KK supporters are fickle bandwagoners who desert their team at the first sign of trouble, shur only last year KK were sending back AIF tickets as they were not confident of beating Tipp.

Originally posted by theblack&amber:
If you were at the match you'd know there was plenty of Kilkenny support, a little short of Limerick and Waterford. Cork always bring huge numbers, partly because they have 4 or 5 times the population of other counties.Also there's plenty of fickle bandwagoners who desert their team at the first sign of trouble in every county.And I can assure you Kilkenny fans were as confident of beating Tipp in last years AIF as the Tipp fans were of beating Kilkenny. And there was only about thousand short of capacity in last years AI, which would suggest to me a good crowd from both sides.

Originally posted by Barry:
Cork do NOT always "bring huge numbers".They only ever travel in big numbers if they think they're going to win.

This message has been edited - 01-aug-2012 @ 15:21

Originally posted by Barry:
Cork do NOT always "bring huge numbers".They only ever travel in big numbers if they think they're going to win.

Originally posted by Tinmar:
The Kilkenny support on Sunday was somewhere in the region of 10,000 which is about 1/9 of the population of the entire county. I doubt if any of the other competing teams could better that %.