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Topic: Limerick SHC 1/4 finals
staycalm
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Posted: 05-Aug-2012 21:11
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Line ups confirmed as Adare v Patrickswell, Emmets v Garryspillane, Kilmallock v Croom, Na Piarsaigh v Ahane

Or in other words Ger O'Loughlin v Brian Lohan, Sean Stack v Liam Doyle, Tony Considine v Sean Treacy.

If you didnt know any different you would think it was the Clare 1/4 finals
glasandbán
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Posted: 05-Aug-2012 22:08
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What is the problem in Limerick with getting former players involved in coaching and management?
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 05-Aug-2012 23:03
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I think that the financial situation in the country will see more inside trainers.

However, who wants to train a club side where:

(a) Players are haphazard about training, where players outside the guaranteed first 15 no longer have the appetite to turn up unless guaranteed gametime, and will no longer train, rendering 15-a-side games impossible.

(b) Where the best players on the field like the night life in the nights preceding big games,

(c) Where a team can ship a hiding like Croom took from Na Piarsaigh,

(d) Where a player can up sticks at a moments notice and depart on holidays facing into the crucial last round of games.

Unless you want a few quid (and there are easier ways of making it), managing a senior club side isnt really rewarding unless you are in with one of the marquee top three or four sides.

Basically most of the inside guys are working with underage, where you dont have the same headaches and there are greater rewards in terms of watching players progress from Spring to Autumn.
Mackey 2
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 11:58
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What Emmets did yeserday was a disgrace and makes a farce of the Senior club Championship and is a total lack of respect to both Bruree and Ballingarry who are senior clubs and trained hard all year. To start the match against Adare with 13 players was an absolute disgrace. Its time now the divisional teams were abandoned. Its doing no good for hurling in the County.
sentoffonce
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 13:39
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Any dates and times for these games?
dongles
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 15:50
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Originally posted by staycalm:
Line ups confirmed as Adare v Patrickswell, Emmets v Garryspillane, Kilmallock v Croom, Na Piarsaigh v AhaneOr in other words Ger O'Loughlin v Brian Lohan, Sean Stack v Liam Doyle, Tony Considine v Sean Treacy.If you didnt know any different you would think it was the Clare 1/4 finals

I am going to go with Killmallock despite clocks outbursts, Ahane,Emmets and Adare.

bp
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 15:57
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Originally posted by Mackey 2:
What Emmets did yeserday was a disgrace and makes a farce of the Senior club Championship and is a total lack of respect to both Bruree and Ballingarry who are senior clubs and trained hard all year. To start the match against Adare with 13 players was an absolute disgrace. Its time now the divisional teams were abandoned. Its doing no good for hurling in the County.

Unbelievable stuff altogether - they had 15 for the start of the 2nd half

dongles
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 16:17
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Originally posted by bp:
Unbelievable stuff altogether - they had 15 for the start of the 2nd half

I heard its was a farce of a game and i agree the divisional teams have to go.

Hurlingfever121
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 16:22
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Originally posted by sentoffonce:
Any dates and times for these games?

Sunday 26th of August is the date for 1/4 finals no time or venue's comfirmed yet.
This message has been edited - 06-aug-2012 @ 16:23
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 16:38
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Emmetts were more than happy to take two points off Bruree and Granagh/Ballingarry. What happened yesterday is totally unacceptable.
Mackey 2
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 16:49
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Emmetts were more than happy to take two points off Bruree and Granagh/Ballingarry. What happened yesterday is totally unacceptable.

Emmets should be thrown out of the championship. Let Bruree into the Quater finals and Ballingarry into the County Cup. If the County board have any balls they would take action.

johnny cash
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 16:58
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divsional teams have a long tradition in the kerry football championship. many of them have won the senior championship.

but similar to the situation ye had in limerick yesterday a few of them have turned up for games like rag ball rovers. i dont think it ever got to stage where a team started with 13 but there were situations where managers were ringing for players to fill in 30mins before the game or peeping into crowd to see if there was someone there that could tog out. divisional teams are so tricky to organise and pull together

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
Emmetts were more than happy to take two points off Bruree and Granagh/Ballingarry. What happened yesterday is totally unacceptable.

Habanerocat
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 17:09
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Originally posted by Mackey 2:

Emmets should be thrown out of the championship. Let Bruree into the Quater finals and Ballingarry into the County Cup. If the County board have any balls they would take action.

If it was the Olympics they would be thrown out.

ALGERIAN middle-distance runner Taoufik Makhloufi has been excluded from the London Olympics for not trying in his 800m heat.

African champion Makhloufi stopped on the first lap of his heat. He appeared to be saving energy for the 1500m final laster today Tuesday where he was a likely medal contender.

The International Association of Athletics Federations says its race referee found Makhloufi guilty of "failure to compete honestly with bona fide effort",

IAAF rules state that "an athlete shall be excluded from participation in all further events in the competition".

The 24-year-old Makhloufi had already won his heat and semi-final in the Olympic 1500m.

His disqualification comes one week after four women's badminton doubles teams were disqualified for playing to lose.
Mackey 2
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 17:31
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I would love if Garryspillane and Patrickswell both hammer adare and Emmets over that scenario yesterday.
Garryspillane will find it tough against Emmets because you can be sure Emmets will have a full team next day.
My predictions are
Na Piarsaigh
Kilmallock
Emmets
Adare
Ivor Doherty
(117 Posts)
Posted: 06-Aug-2012 17:45
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Originally posted by Mackey 2:
I would love if Garryspillane and Patrickswell both hammer adare and Emmets over that scenario yesterday.
Garryspillane will find it tough against Emmets because you can be sure Emmets will have a full team next day.
My predictions are
Na Piarsaigh
Kilmallock
Emmets
Adare

am I missing something here?? Since when has Emmetts fielding a weak team got anything to do with Adare??? They just went out and did what they had to do, which was beat whatever team was put in front of them so spare me your pious platititudes in relation to Adare being the 'bad' guys in this situation!
Effin eddie
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 18:40
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Originally posted by Ivor Doherty:
am I missing something here?? Since when has Emmetts fielding a weak team got anything to do with Adare??? They just went out and did what they had to do, which was beat whatever team was put in front of them so spare me your pious platititudes in relation to Adare being the 'bad' guys in this situation!


I agree with Ivor. The dogs on the streetsknew last week that emmets were going to field a weakened side. It was even reported to a county board official in killmallock I was told. Adare deserved their win yesterday and it should be an interesting game between adare patrickswell.

Ivor Doherty
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 18:56
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Originally posted by Effin eddie:
I agree with Ivor. The dogs on the streetsknew last week that emmets were going to field a weakened side. It was even reported to a county board official in killmallock I was told. Adare deserved their win yesterday and it should be an interesting game between adare patrickswell.

not alone that Eddie, but adare agreed to delay the throw in time by 15 minutes in order to facilitate Emmetts, who were totally ill prepared, apparently they had no jersies or sliothars either. I agree that it was tough on both bruree and G/B, but Adare were completely blameless for this mess.

daylo
(642 Posts)
Posted: 06-Aug-2012 19:02
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is sean stack still with na piarsaigh ?
Effin eddie
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 19:20
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Originally posted by Mackey 2:

Emmets should be thrown out of the championship. Let Bruree into the Quater finals and Ballingarry into the County Cup. If the County board have any balls they would take action.


All the senior clubs inthat group should be putting pen to paper over this incident. Emmets should be tyrfed out and bruree put thru as u say and gb into the county cup. I mean it that's true about not having jerseys then they are making a mockery of this competition.
scud
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 20:38
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Originally posted by Mackey 2:

Emmets should be thrown out of the championship. Let Bruree into the Quater finals and Ballingarry into the County Cup. If the County board have any balls they would take action.

I'd be more than curious to have you explain this scenario. Do you mean that Adare should be in the relegation play-offs? You choose to penalise Adare for playing the game and treating the association with the respect it deserves?

The game is over. Get on with it. Rant and rave all you want about Emmetts. Lament on the misfortunes suffered by Bruree and GB, but why you would castigate Adare for acting as they should is beyond me.

Adare v Pwell will be a great match regardless. The Well have to start as heavy favourites seeing as Adare are there by 'default'.
jambon
(485 Posts)
Posted: 06-Aug-2012 21:17
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Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
I think that the financial situation in the country will see more inside trainers. However, who wants to train a club side where: (a) Players are haphazard about training, where players outside the guaranteed first 15 no longer have the appetite to turn up unless guaranteed gametime, and will no longer train, rendering 15-a-side games impossible. (b) Where the best players on the field like the night life in the nights preceding big games, (c) Where a team can ship a hiding like Croom took from Na Piarsaigh, (d) Where a player can up sticks at a moments notice and depart on holidays facing into the crucial last round of games. Unless you want a few quid (and there are easier ways of making it), managing a senior club side isnt really rewarding unless you are in with one of the marquee top three or four sides. Basically most of the inside guys are working with underage, where you dont have the same headaches and there are greater rewards in terms of watching players progress from Spring to Autumn.

An Effin player told me about their star playeer going on holidays. I thought he was messing to be honest. The club offered to pay for the holiday but he still went. Shocking stuff to be fair.

South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 21:17
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There is a lot of speculation and there are conspiracy theories emerging today but conspiracy theories mean nothing in the GAA rule book. It seems Adare by all accounts did everything possible to facilitate Emmetts.

The harsh reality is Emmetts have not broken any GAA rule. The rules of the GAA permit a team to play the first half of a game with 13 players as long as there are 15 to start the second half. Emmetts adhered to the rule. As much as a lot of people would like to see them thrown out, there is nothing that anyone can do. They are untouchable as regards the 2012 Championship.
dongles
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 22:09
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Originally posted by jambon:

An Effin player told me about their star playeer going on holidays. I thought he was messing to be honest. The club offered to pay for the holiday but he still went. Shocking stuff to be fair.

I find it hard to believe that a player would go on holidays knowing the match was fixed. Anyone know the venues for the quarter finals. Ahane willrelish a trip to the gaelic grounds.

staycalm
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 22:20
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Originally posted by dongles:

I find it hard to believe that a player would go on holidays knowing the match was fixed. Anyone know the venues for the quarter finals. Ahane willrelish a trip to the gaelic grounds.

Possibly 2 double headers.

Emmets, Garryspillane, Kilmallock and Croom in Bruff with the other 2 matches in the gaelic grounds.

The Well, Na Piarsaigh, Kilmallock and Emmets to come through
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 23:34
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One double header on the Saturday night and the other on the Sunday night. 5.30pm and 7pm? or would they need to to a half an hour earlier?

There will be some South crowd in Bruff in fairness.

Originally posted by staycalm:
Possibly 2 double headers.Emmets, Garryspillane, Kilmallock and Croom in Bruff with the other 2 matches in the gaelic grounds.The Well, Na Piarsaigh, Kilmallock and Emmets to come through


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