Originally posted by JackMurphy:
Many regarded Martin Carney's comments during the Cork V Kerry game, as being premature.However, this subject must be re-visitied now - Have we seen the passing of the 2nd best IC Football Team of all-time?The current Kerry Team are undoubedly one of the best teams ever, 2nd only to Mick O Dwyer's great team - in the opinion of many.However, many of their marquee names such as Darragh O Se & Tom O Sullivan have already retired and will surely soon be followed by such greats as Tomas & Marc O Se, Eoin Brosnan, Aidan O Mahony and Paul Galvin. Colm 'Gooch' Cooper and Declan O Sullivan will be 30 next Summer and both have a lot of milage already on the clock.

The notion that Kerry's great run of success has come to an end is supported by the relative lack of success at underage with a sole u21 title in 2008 and the last Minor triumph in 1994.Most Football Supporters will have enjoyed seeing this team at it's best and would mourn it's passing - if indeed, last Sunday was the day the music finally died.

Originally posted by JackMurphy:
Many regarded Martin Carney's comments during the Cork V Kerry game, as being premature.However, this subject must be re-visitied now - Have we seen the passing of the 2nd best IC Football Team of all-time?The current Kerry Team are undoubedly one of the best teams ever, 2nd only to Mick O Dwyer's great team - in the opinion of many.However, many of their marquee names such as Darragh O Se & Tom O Sullivan have already retired and will surely soon be followed by such greats as Tomas & Marc O Se, Eoin Brosnan, Aidan O Mahony and Paul Galvin. Colm 'Gooch' Cooper and Declan O Sullivan will be 30 next Summer and both have a lot of milage already on the clock.

The notion that Kerry's great run of success has come to an end is supported by the relative lack of success at underage with a sole u21 title in 2008 and the last Minor triumph in 1994.Most Football Supporters will have enjoyed seeing this team at it's best and would mourn it's passing - if indeed, last Sunday was the day the music finally died.

Originally posted by kavvie:
as bad as kerry were and despite being crippled by injurys during the donegal game they shoud have got a free at the end to draw it(undeserved but thems the facts).id say tomas will go.lots left in the rest of them though..declan o sullivan and gooch will be there for at least 4/5 yrs more id say?

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Originally posted by Chucky:
As a Corkman I would be delighted if the suggestion above that all the older players are planning on staying on. I think this would be a repeat of the mistake Kerry made in the late 80's when the likes of Paidi O'Se, Bomber etc refused to go quietly into the night. For example i've seen a lot of Peter Crowley playing with UCC over the past 2 years and he seems to be the real deal but isn't getting a look in. If Kerry persist with Tomás O'Se and Brosnan, great players though they were, ahead of youngsters like that then they'll be set for another fallow period. Either way i think it'll be a long time before they dominate again but with the quality of players they have they'll always be contenders at least. If nothing else, most counties would kill to have the options of Maher, Sheehan and Moran (hopefully for his sake) to choose from at midfield.

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Originally posted by carryharry:
If Jack O'Connor steps down, who would be a suitable replacement????

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Originally posted by thehermit:
'Listen, asthore, for these eyes are sealed,
Listen once more, when Kerrymen take the field,
Tell an old man who saw them in days of old,
Do they walk proudly in their green and gold?Listen, asthore, when Kerry take the field,
Tell me when they attack and when they yield;
Say if they fail; asthore, I'm blind and old,
Tell me they'll not dishonour the green and gold.'Maybe for a short while we will have to see the likes of Dublin and Cork winning a couple of titles, but winter will always give way eventually to spring. The light of our tradition, of our famous victories will forever shine as long as men kick a ball in this country. Sometimes beaten but never unbowed: An Riocht, as ever, Abu!!

Originally posted by carryharry:
If Jack O'Connor steps down, who would be a suitable replacement????

Originally posted by Muilleann:
This Kerry team grew from a successful U21 team managed by Paidi O'Se.Think same will have to happen again.Fine footballing team Kerry but they got a few soft ones on the way (and good luck to them) and,as Brolly said,could never handle the Northern teams who "looked them in the eye" or indeed the Meath team of the early noughties who put them to the sword.

Originally posted by Muilleann:
Fine footballing team Kerry but they got a few soft ones on the way (and good luck to them)

Originally posted by cerebus:
Yerra if they were soft sure the other counties could have won them too.

Originally posted by carryharry:
If Jack does go, would John Evans not be an option with FitzMaurice as co manager?I know he is not noted as a bigtime Intercounty manager but his experience with Tipperary underage teams must give him a reasonable knowledge of Kerry underage players.Whatever is said about him, he changed the mindset in Tipp and was highly regarded.I believe he did well with clubs in Kerry too but that would be the height of my knowledge of that.