This message has been edited - 09-aug-2012 @ 18:47

Originally posted by Hilltop:
Lads,
I really hope Katie Taylor wins a Gold medal, as does the whole of the country.
But since yesterday afternoon, in general passing I've heard three commentators simply assume the Gold is in the bag.
RTE yesterday, Radio 1 last night and Newstalk this morning.
And it is the general national assumption.
As if the girl isn't under enough pressure already, being the great hope of (possibly) the weakest Olympic team we've ever sent, we go and assume she's a dead cert.
She beat a good, but not great, opponent yesterday and we're all experts jumping around about how she's going to p!ss this Olympics.
I've no doubt she's the best at that level but Olympic boxing has the worst record of shocking judging and scoring.
I hope she wins it, but for fcuk sake why do we, as a nation, build up our representatives beyond reality?
(see hopes for Irish soccer team - where the pre euro2012 collective were looking forward to beating England in the Quarters - MORONS)

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:
The coverage of Taylor's yesterday is seriously over the top. John Joe Nevin achieved the exact same feat on Sunday night, qualifying for a semi final and it got a fraction of the coverage that Taylor's win got. In fact in Nevin's case, its a much more noteworthy achievement as he had to see off three opponents to win his medal. Taylor has had to win only one fight to get a medal. One would suspect there may be other issues at play as regards the relative downbeat reaction to Nevin's achievements.I also heard her described on a number of occasions on the radio this morning as Ireland's finest ever boxer. That is really stretching it. In the amateur ranks she still has to emulate the achievements of Michael Currath and indeed the Wayne McCullough who got a silver. Not to mention the likes of Barry McGuigan or Steve Collins

Originally posted by carryharry:
I agree, the media are setting the girl up for a huge fall the way they are carrying on.
Seamus makes a valid point in relation to John Joe Nevin, i didn't his picture all over the front page on the Indo after his previous fight although he has also a Bronze medal achieved at least.She is the clear favorite in her catergory and deserves respect, but i wish the media would hold off until the medal we all want is placed around her neck.Until then, it is probably best for all involved to chill.

This message has been edited - 07-aug-2012 @ 11:57

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:
The coverage of Taylor's yesterday is seriously over the top. John Joe Nevin achieved the exact same feat on Sunday night, qualifying for a semi final and it got a fraction of the coverage that Taylor's win got. In fact in Nevin's case, its a much more noteworthy achievement as he had to see off three opponents to win his medal. Taylor has had to win only one fight to get a medal. One would suspect there may be other issues at play as regards the relative downbeat reaction to Nevin's achievements.I also heard her described on a number of occasions on the radio this morning as Ireland's finest ever boxer. That is really stretching it. In the amateur ranks she still has to emulate the achievements of Michael Currath and indeed the Wayne McCullough who got a silver. Not to mention the likes of Barry McGuigan or Steve Collins

Originally posted by carryharry:

Seamus makes a valid point in relation to John Joe Nevin, i didn't his picture all over the front page on the Indo after his previous fight although he has also a Bronze medal achieved at least.

Originally posted by glasandbán:
Though is hard to say any achieved more than Barry McGuigan.

Originally posted by stones_off:
He was on the front of the Independent.

Originally posted by carryharry:
With respect, he wasn't taking up the whole front page.I know her record is excellent and she deserves all the support she is getting & more, but can we wait till she has won gold before celebrating like it is around her neck already?

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:
I also heard her described on a number of occasions on the radio this morning as Ireland's finest ever boxer. That is really stretching it. In the amateur ranks she still has to emulate the achievements of Michael Currath and indeed the Wayne McCullough who got a silver. Not to mention the likes of Barry McGuigan or Steve Collins

Originally posted by Hitch:

Keep this to yourself now, Harry ...but I had a few glasses of bubbly last night to celebrate Katy's soon-to-be bit of bling.Got a bit tiddley actually!

Originally posted by glasandbán:
That's an awful ill-informed, begrudging and somewhat bitter post. Go and have a look at her record then watch a couple of her fights. It is perfectly legitimate to say that she may be Irelands greatest boxer ever, having won everything available for 4 years.Though is hard to say any achieved more than Barry McGuigan.

Originally posted by Club Delegate:
So presumably using your logic, you'd rate Angela & Ann Downey ahead of Henry Shefflin, Eddie Keher & DJ Carey because they have more All Ireland medals.

Originally posted by glasandbán:
Logic?Are you telling me that Henry is a better player? If so are the ladies achievements lesser because they are not as a good a player as a male? And possibly the greatest player of all time. Or is it just that the female stars are lesser sports people than the men? In any event, medals are not a true measure of 'greatness' as an individual player in a team sport.I don't see any logic in your post. Go away and have a think about it.

Originally posted by Club Delegate:
So presumably using your logic, you'd rate Angela & Ann Downey ahead of Henry Shefflin, Eddie Keher & DJ Carey because they have more All Ireland medals.

Originally posted by Francis:
There's definite elements of sexism emerging in this discussion.... The old Neanderthal with a keyboard problem... Sigh...

Originally posted by inbetweeners:
People need to get a bit of perspective. I heard someone on newstalk yesterday saying she was the greatest Irish sportsperson of all time. Never mind boxing. The standard in womens boxing is dreadful. That is not her fault she can only beat whats put in front of her. None of that takes away from her tremendous achievments and talents but comparing her to her male counterparts is pointless.Johnny Nelson was saying yesterday that some of the Irish fans were telling him she would beat some of the male boxers!Poor Johnny nearly wet himself. Its this sort of delusional stuff that creates the overhype.It really is cringeworthy listening to similar talk from some people.

Originally posted by william munny:
What was even worse was the video of irish fans going over to london chanting the cringing ' you'll never beat the irish' - Now embarrassing as this s**te is at any international event, these tools are only going over to support our own chance of winning a gold - would they sing this at the rowing? Swimming ? Diving ? Although now that i think of it, these parasites prob would.
JC, I despise those fxxxers with their faux support.