Mobile Version
|
Register
|
Login
home
|
speak out!
|
content zone archives
|
"speak out!" archives
|
vote on it
|
soap opera
|
pub crawl
|
links
|
contact us
|
search
Follow us!
Speak Out! - Gaelic Games
Notices
"Speak Out!" Home
|
Topic Listing
|
Post New Topic
|
Post Reply
Yesterday's HOT topics
|
Today's HOT topics
| Jump to:
All Topics
Topic:
What will Galway do when......
Young Hopper
(327 Posts)
Posted:
12-Aug-2012 23:38
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
.....they cant afford to play with 13 defenders for the last 25 minutes V Tipp/Kilkenny because
a)(best case scenario) the game is still in the melting pot
or
b) (worst case scenario) they are 7/8 points down and chasing the game.
Will be interesting to see. They could afford to do it in the Leinster Final because of their exceptional first half.
The could afford to do it today because Cork have been tactically atrocious of late.
On the other, semi finals are about winning I guess and a defeat today would have seriously scarred this young team after the highs of recent weeks.
Worryingly for Galway it does seem like a management ploy-they were only 3/4 points up at most when they started this today.
cerebus
(3,258 Posts)
Posted:
12-Aug-2012 23:41
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by Young Hopper:
.....they cant afford to play with 13 defenders for the last 25 minutes
The Galway Shawl.
manfromdelmonte
(2,268 Posts)
Posted:
12-Aug-2012 23:46
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Cunningham is very shrewd.
he brought two different football clubs to provincial success, in Connacht and in Leinster
and the Galway under 21 hurlers to AI success
but as you say, they have not had to claw back a lead in 2012
bluesky
(559 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 00:31
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
should this not be what are other teams going to do if Galway keep on hurling well only 70 minutes plus away from the title now.
hope to god the win it hurling needs a new team up there
bluelim
(408 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 00:59
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by Young Hopper:
.....they cant afford to play with 13 defenders for the last 25 minutes V Tipp/Kilkenny because
a)(best case scenario) the game is still in the melting pot
or
b) (worst case scenario) they are 7/8 points down and chasing the game.Will be interesting to see. They could afford to do it in the Leinster Final because of their exceptional first half.
The could afford to do it today because Cork have been tactically atrocious of late. On the other, semi finals are about winning I guess and a defeat today would have seriously scarred this young team after the highs of recent weeks. Worryingly for Galway it does seem like a management ploy-they were only 3/4 points up at most when they started this today.
Ah yes indeed. YH, with his anti-Galway agenda was bound to come along at this point. All sour grapes and jealously. I've already had to put straighten him out re: Galway club hurling this year, but this poor chap seems to have learning difficulties. Unsubscribe is my advice.
Young Hopper
(327 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 01:08
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by bluelim:
Ah yes indeed. YH, with his anti-Galway agenda was bound to come along at this point. All sour grapes and jealously. I've already had to put straighten him out re: Galway club hurling this year, but this poor chap seems to have learning difficulties. Unsubscribe is my advice.
Yes I have an anti-Galway agenda. Of course. Good man.
If you want to continue a discussion on Galway club hurling resurect that thread and I shall be happy to once again debate with you. However, I seem to remember that I had to repeat everything about 4 times before you would take anything on board and address what I was actually saying.
Now, as regards THIS thread, can you address the points I made? And I have no intention of repeating anything over and over for the remedial members of the forum such as yourself.
Kindly re-read the OP and address what I said, or ---- right out of this thread.
Yours,
Y.H.
Young Hopper
(327 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 01:11
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by bluesky:
should this not be what are other teams going to do if Galway keep on hurling well only 70 minutes plus away from the title now.hope to god the win it hurling needs a new team up there
Despite the slightly worrying and stalkerish reply above from another poster, nobody would happier than me to see Galway win an All Ireland.
I just thought it was strange that Galway spent the last 20 minutes pucking the ball back to the Cork backline who were in a 6 V 2 situation.
I think this would have been severly punished against either of the big two, especially considering the narrow lead.
As I already stated above, semi finals are about winning however. And even the best/most experienced of teams tend to stumble over the line in semis.
KeepOnHurling
(3,223 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 03:18
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
When you have lads in the forward line like Canning, Hayes and Burke you can use this tactic.
Cork have point scorers all through the forward line, so it seemed like a sensible enough tactic to use to keep them out.
Realistically, although Galway won by 22 points to 17, it was Galway who had more goal chances so arguably with a bit of luck it could have been more.
This year Galway have been very impressive in winning 50/50 balls, when the game turns into a battle it always seemed to be a Galway man coming away with the ball, same as v Kilkenny in the Leinster final.
labane1917
(1,438 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 07:40
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
I don't think you are giving Anthony Cunningham and his team enough credit. Every game of hurling is different and what works in terms of tactics in one game or against one opposition may not work in another game, even against the same opposition. Cunningham and his staff have a very good record in getting the tactics right so far this championship season, Westmeath, Offaly and Kilkenny all beaten at the half and Cork beaten today without too much fuss. I would say Cunningham was worried like all Galway supporters about Cork's ability off the bench and that's why we saw the defensive tactics today after they went 3 points ahead in the second half. Get 3 or 4 points ahead and then employ a swarming defense to stop Cork scoring, in particular stop them scoring goals. It takes great confidence in your players to execute on those tactics but they actually worked perfectly. After all the talk about Galways porous full back line Cork only had one real chance of a goal today.
Anthony Cunningham is proving to be a very shrewd manager and is getting the Galway team to play to a clear gameplan in each game, something that recent Galway managers were not able to do. You can be sure Cunningham and co. will have a gameplan for the AI final depending on who they are facing and given the way the defense played today they will be very hard to break down. Regardless of the defensive tactics though, Galway have been racking up the scores which will give Brian Cody or Declan Ryan plenty to worry about.
123oleary
(12 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 08:12
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
What will Galway do when joe canning is not allowed to charge his marker and run 10+ steps with the ball
faithfulfan
(258 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 08:48
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by 123oleary:
What will Galway do when joe canning is not allowed to charge his marker and run 10+ steps with the ball
I didn't see 10+ steps at any stage yesterday and the one or two free for over carrying were dubious as players arms were being held by tacklers.
A more glaring offense is throwing the ball, on two occasions yesterday I saw Cork players throw the ball and actually get frees in their favor when they subsequently threw themselves down, both frees they scored from. The commentators actually mentioned it at one point and I've seen the same tactic used by Kelly, Shefflin, Walsh etc. when blocked by defenders. Can't really blame the players if the Ref's are not blowing for the foul but its a very basic rule of the game to be missing.
Hitch
(3,644 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 09:04
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Joe is just sublime to watch. Lads, we might never see his likes for a long, long time.
The main thing now is that he doesn't pick up an injury between now and the Final.
I think that GY will be champions if he's fully fit ...personally I think he's unmarkable!
cerebus
(3,258 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 09:28
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by 123oleary:
What will Galway do when joe canning is not allowed to charge his marker and run 10+ steps with the ball
If the Gooch did that.....
theblack&amber
(593 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 09:42
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
What will Galway do when...
Either Tipp or Kilkenny, having disposed of their fiercest rival of the last few years in the semi, get to the AI and bring their A game like they usually do?
I suspect on current form Galway will also bring their A game. Which means, at least to my ears, that whoever end up facing Galway, we're in for a hell of a few weeks. Regardless of who it will be (and I obviously hope its Kilkenny), it feels like its going to be another epic Final.
Secondly, what will Galway do when...
The hype really starts to build up, and build up rapidly in the next few weeks. Cunningham, his background team and the players have done exceptionally well to dampen the hype and expectation so far. But this is an AIF, their first for 7 years, so there will be hype, and lots of it. While Kilkenny and Tipp have been there and done that, this will be new to Galway.
I just hope it doesn't get to them.
Habanerocat
(2,252 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 10:48
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by faithfulfan:
I didn't see 10+ steps at any stage yesterday and the one or two free for over carrying were dubious as players arms were being held by tacklers.
You need to watch a recording of the match again!
doc
(162 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 11:16
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
In fairness to Young Hopper, with a username like that how could he be anti Galway?! 123oleary however comes in with a stupid comment about Joe charging which is completely untrue as he was being held and fouled many times without any free being given plus he always comes in for nasty off the ball belts in most games like O'Sullivan did yesterday. Cronin also was very lucky not to see the line after his sly dig into the ribs of Tannian (he didn't even get a booking!). Cork got some awful soft frees yesterday particularly in the first half and some of them like the throw where they got their equaliser to make it 11 points each was very poor refereeing which could have cost the better team the game. The poor decisions of the match officials alone cost Galway at least another 3 or 4 points but as I said on another thread it was better to win ugly by 5 points than to win by 10 where no lessons would have been learned.
Young Hopper
(327 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 11:20
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by doc:
Cronin also was very lucky not to see the line after his sly dig into the ribs of Tannian (he didn't even get a booking!).
Donal O Grady's reaction to this was-"Well we view these things in isolation, so we dont know what happened before or after it"!!!!!
Also when the Cork player (I think Brian Murphy) won a free by falling and throwing the ball in front of himself, he said that it was a tactic Kilkenny had perfected with the likes of Shefflin.
For an obviously astute and intelligent man he comes off poorly in instances where Cork are playing.
faithfulfan
(258 Posts)
Posted:
13-Aug-2012 11:26
Quote
Edit
Delete
Report Post
Post Reply
Originally posted by Habanerocat:
You need to watch a recording of the match again!
Why?
"Speak Out!" Home
|
Topic Listing
|
Post New Topic
|
Post Reply
‘We talk just like lions, but we sacrifice like lambs…’.
Whatever Happened to….
Anyone you know in your club?
Bin Tags Don't Make a County
‘Some a’ Dem’ Lads are only Dow-en for the Showers….’
Heavenly Hurling: How the Gods pass their time...
GAA Time and Real Time
Saint Patrick and the camogie princesses
Keats and Chapman at the Munster Final
Mass, the Mater, ‘The Dergvale’ and Mullingar…
More "Content Zone" Topics >>
More "Speak Out!" Topics >>