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Topic: car question for carryharry
LETRIP
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:11
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Harry if you don't mind i've noticed you giving advice before.

Missus looking at moving up a few years from 06 petrol 1.5 to diesel 09. (economy)

Notice a few Kia rios very reasonably priced.

What's the catch.

Thanks
Letrip
carryharry
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:21
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No catch. Good car provided you have some service history, economical at 55mpg. Not as comfortable as a Focus or Golf but a fair diesel car for €4-5k less money.

If you could stretch another couple of €k i would recommend a Kia Cee'd dsl 5dr hatchback. Low tax, 1.6lt dsl is more responsive and getting 50mpg upwards. More room and better spec'd also.

7 year or 150,000km warranty whichever comes first is a big plus too. Good value in those cars imo.
LETRIP
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:29
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thanks for that will have a look
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:30
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When I was changing last year, I did a test drive on a Kia Rio. Didnt find it that comfortable to be honest. It was the cheapest of the cars in its category though which would explain why secondhand models are cheap.
Hitch
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:49
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What’s the difference between a Jehovah’s Witness and a Kia?



You can shut the door on a Jehovah’s Witness!
carryharry
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Posted: 13-Aug-2012 22:53
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Originally posted by Hitch:

What’s the difference between a Jehovah’s Witness and a Kia?
You can shut the door on a Jehovah’s Witness!

Very good Hitch.
FTJC
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 08:04
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I'm looking at a 08 Mondeo myself at the moment Harry. The miles are high (140k) as it's an ex UK company yoke. The price is very good but is there anything in particular I should look out for mechanically or is buying a car with high miles a lottery either way?
Fireplace
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 09:24
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Originally posted by FTJC:
I'm looking at a 08 Mondeo myself at the moment Harry. The miles are high (140k) as it's an ex UK company yoke. The price is very good but is there anything in particular I should look out for mechanically or is buying a car with high miles a lottery either way?

If you put up any sort of miles at all on it, you will never get any sort of money back on it. Fine if you are going to keep it a while.
Shockcat
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 11:17
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Originally posted by Fireplace:

If you put up any sort of miles at all on it, you will never get any sort of money back on it. Fine if you are going to keep it a while.

Many of these low mileage fresh UK cars are clocked before they begin their "New Life" over here. The difference between a genuine low mileage diesel and a well maintained "Motorway Driven" same car is to me miniscule in terms of value. Look at it this way I Drove 200 km round trip from home to dublin on the M9 at the weekend. I never changed gear on until within a few KM of my destination on either leg of the journey. The same mileage around town could involve a few hundred cold starts,gear changes,clutch starts,hill starts etc. The Diesel Particulate Filter(DPF) issue on modern diesels makes buying a well driven diesel more important than buying a low mileage one.
FTJC
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 12:21
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The Diesel Particulate Filter(DPF) issue on modern diesels makes buying a well driven diesel more important than buying a low mileage one.

Could you explain...when it comes to the intricacies of cars i'm a complete ignoramus!
carryharry
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 12:41
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Originally posted by FTJC:
I'm looking at a 08 Mondeo myself at the moment Harry. The miles are high (140k) as it's an ex UK company yoke. The price is very good but is there anything in particular I should look out for mechanically or is buying a car with high miles a lottery either way?

Imo if your buying that car off a non franchise dealer with that mileage then it is worth somewhere around €8500.

If its a private sale with no warranty then take another €1000 off at least.

If its a 1.8tdci diesel Mondeo has 140000k on the clock then you are close to a timing belt which is a pretty big job as there are 2 belts to be changed. Roughly a days labour to that in a main dealership so between parts & labour your looking at €1000 to do the whole job. Another issue with 1.8tdci diesel's with high mileage is injector trouble which again can be a pricey fix if you get trouble.

If its a 2.0lt tdci then you then have a timing belt replacement every 70000k/120000km. The 2.0lt tdci engine has the DPF filter ( 2.0lt mondeo engine is made by Peugeot hence DPF filter). These can be troublesome when the car is driven at low rev's over a long period of time. Carbon builds up and effects the cars emmissions. DPF filter needs a special fluid replaced every 50000km i think but most people never change this and hence problems.

To sum, if you have a service history & the car is 2.0lt then i would chance it provided money is right.

Steer clear of a Mondeo if it is 1.8tdci & high mileage.
spade caller
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 12:45
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Bought an 08 Diesel Mondeo there a few months ago, I was always a VW man and one dealer in particular told me I'd never drive a Ford after a lifetime of VW but I'm chuffed with it. was 83000 miles on it but I don't see that as a problem with a well maintained 1.8. The 6th gear is a massive plus (not all mondeos have this) if you do much motorway driving, I do a long drive most weekends and I find the difference in fuel economy staggering compared to the 1.4 petrol golf.
spade caller
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 12:47
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sorry harry can you clarify about timing belt on 1.8? Is is it 140,000 miles or kilometres?
Ta
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carryharry
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 13:31
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Originally posted by spade caller:
sorry harry can you clarify about timing belt on 1.8? Is is it 140,000 miles or kilometres?
Ta

Im pretty sure its 150,000 miles or every 7 years on those 1.8tdci engines.

One timing belt is external like a Vw, but there is also an internal belt which is immersed in oil which is tricky to replace & increases labour costs. To be sure Spade i would ring a Ford dealer with your Reg & Chassis number to be sure.
spade caller
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 13:32
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Thanks Harry, will do
Full Forward
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 14:35
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Originally posted by carryharry:
Im pretty sure its 150,000 miles or every 7 years on those 1.8tdci engines.One timing belt is external like a Vw, but there is also an internal belt which is immersed in oil which is tricky to replace & increases labour costs. To be sure Spade i would ring a Ford dealer with your Reg & Chassis number to be sure.

Harry, have you had much experience of the new model Citroen C5 that came out in 2008. Seen a very clean 1.6 HDi 09 one recently that looks a good buy but don't know anybody that has one so looking for any feedback on issues with this car ?
Inglis Drever
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 18:01
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Enjoying the info on the cars here. Any opinions to be offered on the 1.6 petrol mondeos? Some very good deals around at the moment for '08 + '09 models. Nice looking cars, my worry is that the 1.6 would not be a big enough engine for the weight of the car, you might be missing a gear and eating fuel. Anybody drive one?
FTJC
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 18:15
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Thanks for the Mondeo advice lads

The car I'm looking at is a 2007 UK import for €6,800
It is the 1.8 TDCi model you speak of with 140k MILES

Chancey???
carryharry
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 20:20
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Originally posted by FTJC:
Thanks for the Mondeo advice ladsThe car I'm looking at is a 2007 UK import for €6,800
It is the 1.8 TDCi model you speak of with 140k MILESChancey???

Imo the price is strong, but without seeing the car and driving it i find it hard to value them accurately.

Look at these, little more money but cheaper tax.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Superb/SE-COMFO/27313428714307700/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/2.0-D-12/813266558047130/advert?channel=CARS
carryharry
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 20:31
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Originally posted by Inglis Drever:
Enjoying the info on the cars here. Any opinions to be offered on the 1.6 petrol mondeos? Some very good deals around at the moment for '08 + '09 models. Nice looking cars, my worry is that the 1.6 would not be a big enough engine for the weight of the car, you might be missing a gear and eating fuel. Anybody drive one?

Your right Inglis.

Drove one for over a month earlier this year through work, lovely car to drive and well spec'd but under powered i thought & hard on fuel.

Okay for urban driving, but rural driving and it may not be suitable.
This message has been edited - 14-aug-2012 @ 20:32
Shockcat
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 00:10
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Originally posted by FTJC:
Could you explain...when it comes to the intricacies of cars i'm a complete ignoramus!

This is a special unit which needs a good Drive at high revs about once every week or so to blow up accumulated gunk. If the car has been doing the school run and never sees the open road, it clogs up and is quite expensive to fix.
South Limerick Referee
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 00:27
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There is a story (myth) that the electrics in Citreons dont like the moist Irish weather.

Originally posted by Full Forward:
Harry, have you had much experience of the new model Citroen C5 that came out in 2008. Seen a very clean 1.6 HDi 09 one recently that looks a good buy but don't know anybody that has one so looking for any feedback on issues with this car ?
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