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Topic: Hurricane type weather forecast for today!
Hitch
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 20:54
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Met Éireann has said parts of the country will tomorrow see conditions similar to those experienced during Hurricane Charlie, which hit Ireland in August 1986.

If ye have any 'oul loose sheets of galvanise in the haggart, or empty fertilizer/coal bags, ...ye better weigh 'em down!
This message has been edited - 15-aug-2012 @ 09:18
greendolphin
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 21:05
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What are the local authorities advising? Government?

The hurricane parties after the storm are great though, despite all the carnage we had a great few days after Ivan in 04.
Young Hopper
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 21:57
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Where are you getting this forecast?

I am reading Met.ie website and also looking at their online 5 day forecast which is extremely accurate. The vast majority of the country will be getting nothing more than strong winds tomorrow according to that.
The Jedi
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 22:02
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South of the country to get the brunt of it. E/SE storm force winds with heavy rain. Risk of flooding on high tides.
tones67
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 22:11
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:
Where are you getting this forecast?I am reading Met.ie website and also looking at their online 5 day forecast which is extremely accurate. The vast majority of the country will be getting nothing more than strong winds tomorrow according to that.
You may want to look again, couple of inches over most of country by lunch time tomorrow

Young Hopper
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 22:21
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Originally posted by tones67:
You may want to look again, couple of inches over most of country by lunch time tomorrow

Well the last time I looked a couple of inches of rain does not equate to a hurricane.
Or maybe I am wrong.
Hitch
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 22:28
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:

Well the last time I looked a couple of inches of rain does not equate to a hurricane.
Or maybe I am wrong.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0814/weather.html

cussler
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 22:54
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It's all about keeping people living in fear. Whether it's the break up of the Euro the household charge water levy broadcast tax cut in social welfare you name it the discourse is always profoundly negative in order to create the maximum level of fear among the populous. It's much easier to govern a brow beaten people who are constantly worried about their future. RTE are past masters at this. Just look at the six one news every evening, you would think the sky was about to fall in such is the level of doom and gloom and poor Sharon with her furrowed brow must have a fcuking headache from telling us how bad things are going to get. Met Eireann are no better. No doubt tomorrow will be wet and windy. Boo fcuking hoo. But hey let's not waste an opportunity to scare the sh1t out of everyone.
carryharry
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 23:07
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Yeah maybe cussler, the weather inland may be wind & rain but coastal area expect high tides and flooding!

So yes a weather alert was probably needed?
Hitch
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 23:15
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Originally posted by cussler:
Met Eireann are no better. No doubt tomorrow will be wet and windy. Boo fcuking hoo. But hey let's not waste an opportunity to scare the sh1t out of everyone.

Why are you scared?
Young Hopper
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 00:48
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Originally posted by Hitch:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0814/weather.html

I stand by what I said-a couple of inches of rain is not a hurricane.
Strong winds do not constitute a hurricane.

Take a closer examination at Met Eireann's own forecasts and you will see that the country is expecting heavy rain and relatively strong winds for about 20% of the country, with non exceptional winds elsewhere.

Am I a meteorologist? No.
Can I predict the future? No.
Can I process information presented to me in various formats? Yes.
Do I take misleadiing headlines at face value without carefully reading the article and researching what it is based on? No.

Gimp.

manfromdelmonte
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 01:01
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it only becomes a hurricane once wind speed goes above a certain level
118 km/ph
Larkin
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 01:17
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And I'm going to a f@#~king wedding! I'd rather be going to court. All this rain will only make the day worse than expected. I detest weddings, absolutely detest the f@#~king things.
Bagger Vance
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 02:58
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Originally posted by Larkin:
And I'm going to a f@#~king wedding! I'd rather be going to court. All this rain will only make the day worse than expected. I detest weddings, absolutely detest the f@#~king things.

Ha I thought I was just being a misery guts. Detest isn't a strong enough word there Larkin.

tones67
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 08:19
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:

Well the last time I looked a couple of inches of rain does not equate to a hurricane.
Or maybe I am wrong.
Well whether its "officially" a hurricane or just a severe dose of rain is toying with words. Obviously you're not bothered about flooding or fallen trees or dangerous road conditions due to flooding and consequent potential loss of lives. There is a weather warning for a reason. On a sporting sense clubs in Clare asked yesterday was there contingency for bad weather for senior championship tonight? They were told , no, it'll probably blow over. Sensible thing would have been ask clubs involved did they want to put games back 24 hours. For example. Eire Og V Ballyea in Clarecastle this evening. Not going to entice too many out in this weather, but sure hwo cares, we'll get the game played anyway and tick the box.

JHume
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 08:37
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:
I stand by what I said-a couple of inches of rain is not a hurricane.
Strong winds do not constitute a hurricane.Take a closer examination at Met Eireann's own forecasts and you will see that the country is expecting heavy rain and relatively strong winds for about 20% of the country, with non exceptional winds elsewhere. Am I a meteorologist? No.
Can I predict the future? No.
Can I process information presented to me in various formats? Yes.
Do I take misleadiing headlines at face value without carefully reading the article and researching what it is based on? No. Gimp.

Give that man a Mars bar.

This 'weather alert' is plying some pile of horse manure. What it should have said was it's going to be wet and windy in Dublin and Cork and areas in between.

Here's what Irish Weatheronline has to say: "Southern Munster and eastern parts of Leinster are most at risk of experiencing flooding and wind damage. The risk for other parts of the country remains moderate and caution is advised."

Moderate risk, but it has been presented like some kind of Armageddon.

The sun is shining, the sky is blue and it's a beautiful morning here in Donegal.

And two inches of rain? Don't make me laugh. 55mm of rain fell at Malin Head on a day last month, and there was nary a mention of it before or afterwards.
Larkin
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 09:09
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Originally posted by Bagger Vance:
Ha I thought I was just being a misery guts. Detest isn't a strong enough word there Larkin.

I feel your pain BV. And Mrs. Larkin loves them. It will be a day of tears and all that rubbish, photos which I hate being taken but I suppose I can drown myself in porter for the evening and it will pass as quickly as possible.
tones67
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 09:15
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Originally posted by JHume:
Give that man a Mars bar.This 'weather alert' is plying some pile of horse manure. What it should have said was it's going to be wet and windy in Dublin and Cork and areas in between.Here's what Irish Weatheronline has to say: "Southern Munster and eastern parts of Leinster are most at risk of experiencing flooding and wind damage. The risk for other parts of the country remains moderate and caution is advised."Moderate risk, but it has been presented like some kind of Armageddon. The sun is shining, the sky is blue and it's a beautiful morning here in Donegal.And two inches of rain? Don't make me laugh. 55mm of rain fell at Malin Head on a day last month, and there was nary a mention of it before or afterwards.
Oh to be in Donegal. Its bucketing down in Clare and I have a new pond in garden that I never ahd before and forecast is for heavy rain followed by heavy showers whatever that means

lopper
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 09:34
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Tis wet.
onthesauce
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 10:52
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Lads serious amount of rain in Waterford since about 7:30am, wind is not due to pick up until 3-6pm today. Also due to be from south/south easterly direction, which combined with high tides at 5-6 will cause problems. Whether its classed as a hurricane or not is irrelevant.
Young Hopper
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 11:39
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The point is this;

Met Eireann provide forecasts in various formats. I am in midlands. I could clearly tell last night that it was going to be persistently raining from about 9/10am throughout the day. Relatively light at first and getting heavier in late afternoon.
I could also tell that winds were going to be light enough. And getting a little stronger for a few hours from about 6pm. Light again tonight.

This is playing out exactly as their forecasts predicted.

So all the misleading headlines and alerts are overly dramatic. If there are hurricane conditions expected in small pockets of the country then tell us that but highlight where. I have already encountered about 4 elderly people in my area awfully worried about a hurricane tonight.

Are Met Eireann in competition and feeling the need to dramatise their forecasts to attract attention or something?

Hurricane my arse as Jim Royle would say.
N16
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 12:20
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This is what forecaster MT Cranium had to say about today on boards.ie and he is very well respected on that site:

ALERT for storm force winds with hurricane force gusts in exposed locations and very heavy rainfalls sweeping north today, with some blustery squalls embedded. Potential for wind gusts to 80 mph in the most exposed coastal and upland locations, 60 mph more widely ... potential for 30-60 mms rainfall with severe flood risk where soils now saturated from previous rainfalls. More details in forecast.

Situation: A very powerful and unusual summer storm has developed explosively overnight as a deep vortex in the upper atmosphere approaches southwest Ireland. A deep surface low that could reach 972 mbs is currently located about 200 miles south-southwest of Valentia with central pressure about 976 mbs. This will now track almost due north to a point just west of Valentia by 1300-1400h and then up the west coast veering more to the northwest after passing Galway Bay late afternoon Wednesday. The low will remain intense but will pull rapidly away from Ireland in the evening, leaving Mayo in the wake of diminishing southwest gales. Wind speeds should both rise and fall off rather swiftly during various phases of the low's brief rampage. All regions will be exposed to strong gusts although the highest wind speeds could be expected near Cork and various exposed locations around the south and east coasts as well as certain inland locations that can channel winds effectively from an ESE to S direction. Hiking above 300m today is strongly discouraged in all regions, the storm will gradually set in by mid-day across the north too. Marine areas south and later west will see hurricane force wind gusts to force 11-12 falling off to 8-10 later, while the Irish Sea will peak around force 9-10 falling off to 5-7 later, so that sailing is strongly discouraged. Waves could overtop shoreline installations around high tide on the south coast, should be a bit less severe on the east coast, but the west coast will have a "chaotic" sea state due to rapidly changing wind directions with short fetch.
JHume
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 13:05
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:
The point is this;Met Eireann provide forecasts in various formats. I am in midlands. I could clearly tell last night that it was going to be persistently raining from about 9/10am throughout the day. Relatively light at first and getting heavier in late afternoon.
I could also tell that winds were going to be light enough. And getting a little stronger for a few hours from about 6pm. Light again tonight. This is playing out exactly as their forecasts predicted. So all the misleading headlines and alerts are overly dramatic. If there are hurricane conditions expected in small pockets of the country then tell us that but highlight where. I have already encountered about 4 elderly people in my area awfully worried about a hurricane tonight. Are Met Eireann in competition and feeling the need to dramatise their forecasts to attract attention or something? Hurricane my arse as Jim Royle would say.

I wonder whether it's Met Eireann's fault that this has been blown out of proportion (boom boom), or RTE and the rest of the mainstream media.

Lots of concern here in Donegal too about a hurricane that isn't going to materialise.

Still dry here, but the rain is on the way. Breezy, but couldn't be described as seriously windy.
Dench
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 13:17
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So we can expect some low scoring affairs in the Clare senior hurling champ. this evening
inbetweeners
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Posted: 15-Aug-2012 13:22
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Originally posted by Larkin:
And I'm going to a f@#~king wedding! I'd rather be going to court. All this rain will only make the day worse than expected. I detest weddings, absolutely detest the f@#~king things.

Which do you hate more weddings or the household charge? and the Mrs is forcing you into both!


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