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Topic: what type of hurling do you prefer
coogee bay
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 19:10
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1 - an open free flowing where skill comes first or
2 - todays game , a physical battle with a liberal referee.
Scaoil Amach an Bobailín
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 19:15
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A little bit from column 1 and a little bit from column 2.
theblack&amber
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 19:15
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Originally posted by coogee bay:
1 - an open free flowing where skill comes first or
2 - todays game , a physical battle with a liberal referee.

Ideally a mixture of both, I see nothing wrong in a physical battle (Galway in the Leinster final was the epitome of its brilliance in practice).

To be fair there was some nice skill on display at times, mostly from Kilkenny.
The Serb
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 19:24
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An open free flowing where skill comes first is what hurling should be about, not this horrible game that Loughnane brought in an Cody perfected and the rest are trying to copy. Ive said it before on this site and got lambasted 'hurling has now become rugby league with sticks' all because the GAA authorities and referees are afraid to enforce the rules because they have a fear of upsetting a certain man who has a baseball hat glued to his head!!
Originally posted by coogee bay:
1 - an open free flowing where skill comes first or
2 - todays game , a physical battle with a liberal referee.

Tippsy McStagger
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 19:47
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I like an open, free flowing game where the skilful players are properly protected by the referee and get space to play, played with total intensity and physicality with bone crunching tackles left, right and centre, with a referee who lets the game flow. I like a game with plenty of overhead pulling and ground hurling in the traditional style, played man v man, with modern tactical awareness, new formations and good ball possession, with none of that ridiculous, old fashioned mindless pucking the ball away.
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galwayforliam
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 20:14
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Originally posted by Tippsy McStagger:
I like an open, free flowing game where the skilful players are properly protected by the referee and get space to play, played with total intensity and physicality with bone crunching tackles left, right and centre, with a referee who lets the game flow. I like a game with plenty of overhead pulling and ground hurling in the traditional style, played man v man, with modern tactical awareness, new formations and good ball possession, with none of that ridiculous, old fashioned mindless pucking the ball away.

Is this a ------- take?

faithfulfan
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 20:21
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The first half of the Leinster final was a exhibition of hurling, I hope the final is all about the skill and both teams going at it hammer and tongs for &0 mins.
Rush
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 20:29
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Originally posted by The Serb:
because the GAA authorities and referees are afraid to enforce the rules because they have a fear of upsetting a certain man who has a baseball hat glued to his head!!

explain please, why are the 'GAA' running scared of one man? what proof have you of this startling situation...?

old seaman
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 22:24
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Originally posted by The Serb:
An open free flowing where skill comes first is what hurling should be about, not this horrible game that Loughnane brought in an Cody perfected and the rest are trying to copy. Ive said it before on this site and got lambasted 'hurling has now become rugby league with sticks' all because the GAA authorities and referees are afraid to enforce the rules because they have a fear of upsetting a certain man who has a baseball hat glued to his head!!

My feelings exactly.

Frankel
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 22:33
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Originally posted by The Serb:
An open free flowing where skill comes first is what hurling should be about, not this horrible game that Loughnane brought in an Cody perfected and the rest are trying to copy. Ive said it before on this site and got lambasted 'hurling has now become rugby league with sticks' all because the GAA authorities and referees are afraid to enforce the rules because they have a fear of upsetting a certain man who has a baseball hat glued to his head!!

100% agree, Clare started this, Kilkenny took it to another level. You have gym monkeys winning matches rather then the natural hurlers like the Deane's, Mullanes etc

Anyone but FF
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 22:35
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I prefer a fast open game free flowing game where skill comes first. In my mind the Cork V Waterford games of the noughties were the pinnacle in the history of the game, they were tough games as well but skill was the main currency in those games not pulling and dragging and other "manly" arts!

Iv said it before here and got slated for it but the Tipp V KK rivalry of the last 3/4 years has done nothing for me and everytime I see them go at it I am left frustrated at what the game of hurling is becoming!
Frankel
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 22:44
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Originally posted by Anyone but FF:
I prefer a fast open game free flowing game where skill comes first. In my mind the Cork V Waterford games of the noughties were the pinnacle in the history of the game, they were tough games as well but skill was the main currency in those games not pulling and dragging and other "manly" arts!Iv said it before here and got slated for it but the Tipp V KK rivalry of the last 3/4 years has done nothing for me and everytime I see them go at it I am left frustrated at what the game of hurling is becoming!

Spot on great games and great days in Thurles. Now we have gym monkeys and ignorant folks in the stand swearing at women and kids in the opposition and neutrals leaving Croke Park today.

rebelrebel30
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 22:52
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Originally posted by Anyone but FF:
I prefer a fast open game free flowing game where skill comes first. In my mind the Cork V Waterford games of the noughties were the pinnacle in the history of the game, they were tough games as well but skill was the main currency in those games not pulling and dragging and other "manly" arts!Iv said it before here and got slated for it but the Tipp V KK rivalry of the last 3/4 years has done nothing for me and everytime I see them go at it I am left frustrated at what the game of hurling is becoming!

Was said those games were skillful but didnt have the swarming, pulling, dark arts etc that was there today. Today represented what cody had truly created. I could even contrast last sundays semi final with todays, played with better spirit and tempo and better skill, very little pulling and dragging or swarming even if Galway were more defensive its nothing on what todays match waas to be honsest, no doubt the "mans game" bridgade will shout you down for even suggesting this, its can be all that and skillful but whats happening now is just not hurling.

Its a +++isation of other sports brought into hurling, codys taken rugby, gaelic football and used some of their principles in tackling, defensive mindsets etc. Lads are confusing skills of the game with brute ugly tackling and blocking, witness Kilkennys taking out of Lehane going through in the league final, rugby tackled, its be going on since 2006 and while the Kilkenny lads wont like it or agree its just my view its a game made in the image of cody himselfd, hes domineering on the line, doesnt like anyone to challenge his dominance, the way its going hurling will soon be secondary and players will just go out onto the pitch and tackle each other as a primary objective rather than let their skill, the ball do the work.
Anyone but FF
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 23:11
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Originally posted by rebelrebel30:
Was said those games were skillful but didnt have the swarming, pulling, dark arts etc that was there today. Today represented what cody had truly created. I could even contrast last sundays semi final with todays, played with better spirit and tempo and better skill, very little pulling and dragging or swarming even if Galway were more defensive its nothing on what todays match waas to be honsest, no doubt the "mans game" bridgade will shout you down for even suggesting this, its can be all that and skillful but whats happening now is just not hurling.Its a +++isation of other sports brought into hurling, codys taken rugby, gaelic football and used some of their principles in tackling, defensive mindsets etc. Lads are confusing skills of the game with brute ugly tackling and blocking, witness Kilkennys taking out of Lehane going through in the league final, rugby tackled, its be going on since 2006 and while the Kilkenny lads wont like it or agree its just my view its a game made in the image of cody himselfd, hes domineering on the line, doesnt like anyone to challenge his dominance, the way its going hurling will soon be secondary and players will just go out onto the pitch and tackle each other as a primary objective rather than let their skill, the ball do the work.

Id agree with that, Every team is trying to ape it now. Tipp and the Dubs were the first to copy that style, Waterford tried it under Davy but have gone back to their stylish game this year. Galway are going down that road as well, Id have no crib with Cunnighams tactics, Tactics be it offensive or defensive are part of a games evolution.

Unfortunetly Cork won't win another All Ireland untill we embrace this "new" brand of hurling and I see it myself in the club games that iv played in this year that much more is been let go. Referees need to seriously up there game, a foul is a free, this "letting the game flow" bullsh!t is only a cop out for weak referees and hurling is becoming all the poorer for it!

fine weather
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 23:27
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The ref should implement the rules in all games not just in the early rounds. I am not saying that he should over do it, use common sense. More cards should have been given out today and unfortunately like last weeks semifinal some of the cards should have been red. While Kilkinny were very physical, they showed unbelievable skill and vision also.
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