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Would Galway & Anthony Cunningham have preferred to play Tipp in the final?
Hitch
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21-Aug-2012 17:48
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...before Sunday's events I mean?
33andcounting
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21-Aug-2012 17:51
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that seemed to be the general consensus from galway supporters i spoke to over the last few weeks.
glasandbán
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21-Aug-2012 17:54
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Yes I think so. It sounds cliché but it's just a big ask to kk twice in one year. Also, Galway would have more of a physical advantage over tipp than kk, the leinster final excluded.
An Early Bath
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21-Aug-2012 17:58
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Originally posted by Hitch:
...before Sunday's events I mean?
Undoubtedly
gaillimh73
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21-Aug-2012 18:07
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Yes but it has more to do with neighbourly love or lack of and after a few recent battles which were close but went against us, it would have been nice to set the record straight. Fear of Kilkenny is not a factor, we have shown that already once this year!
33andcounting
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21-Aug-2012 18:13
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by gaillimh73:
Yes but it has more to do with neighbourly love or lack of and after a few recent battles which were close but went against us, it would have been nice to set the record straight. Fear of Kilkenny is not a factor, we have shown that already once this year![/QU
but is there a fear of a backlash?
let it long
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21-Aug-2012 18:31
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Yes but only because it would have been nice to have beaten kk tipp and cork all in the one year
gaillimh73
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21-Aug-2012 18:57
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We have nothing to fear but fear itself! What we perceive regarding the oppositions motivation is largely irrelevant. Galway have to focus on there own performance and forget the rest. We have a 24 year backlash to unleash and I have a feeling that our lads will further up the intensity from the Leinster Final. Ye better be ready!
Hitch
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21-Aug-2012 20:14
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Brian Cody's thoughts on the final:
"I'm not going to start talking about blowing them up or blowing us down at the moment. It has the makings of a terrific game.
"For as long as I'm in this job, I've been seeing absolutely no reason whatsoever why they wouldn't be in the final several of those years as well, because they have top class hurlers.
"And obviously they're there with a huge amount of confidence now and with every good reason for that.
"They're serious, they're very serious. We're very, very happy about that and we'll prepare as well as we possibly can for it.
"We're expecting a phenomenal performance from them. They're terrific hurlers; look at the quality they have.
"They have great athleticism, skills, leaders and individuals, everything you'd want in a team. We think we have that too - may the best team win."
bluelim
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21-Aug-2012 22:39
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Originally posted by Hitch:
...before Sunday's events I mean?
As a Galway fan I had no real preference. I thought Tipp would win last Sunday and on that basis was expecting an extremely tough challenge in the final. That KK won, and in the manner they did, makes the final now equally tough, if not tougher. Don't buy into the whole 'won't beat KK twice in one season' cliche however. The last time they were beaten in Leinster, '04, they also lost the AI final.
Young Hopper
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21-Aug-2012 22:41
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Psychologically playing Kilkenny again has to be a negative from a Galway point of view-knowing how well they will have to perform and also aware of the obvious motivation available to Kilkenny.
In my opinion!
1980Abu
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21-Aug-2012 23:06
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From chatting to a few Galway players, they were saying that it wouldn't take much Motivation to 'get up' for KK again!!! All we can hope for is that Galway play to the best of their ability and bring Liam accross the Shannon...............
Gaillimh Abú.....
Young Hopper
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21-Aug-2012 23:09
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Originally posted by 1980Abu:
From chatting to a few Galway players, they were saying that it wouldn't take much Motivation to 'get up' for KK again!!! All we can hope for is that Galway play to the best of their ability and bring Liam accross the Shannon...............Gaillimh Abú.....
Ya but surely whatever motivation Galway players can muster, Kilkenny can match and raise?
I've been accused of being anti-Galway before (laughably) but I reckon some Galway hearts sank on seeing Kilkenny win. The manner of their victory will be some consolation though as there is always a chance of some small amount complacency/hype etc.
c
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21-Aug-2012 23:11
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Any team preparing for an All-Ireland final shouldn't care who they will be facing. If they are not mentally strong enough to believe that they will beat allcomers then they won't win.
Scaoil Amach an Bobailín
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22-Aug-2012 01:23
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:
Ya but surely whatever motivation Galway players can muster, Kilkenny can match and raise?
The motivation of being the first Galway senior hurling team to win an All Ireland in 24 years.
The motivation of being written off going onto this final, despite having convincingly beat their opponents only a few weeks ago.
The motivation of being labelled bottlers and chokers despite the massive progress they have made this year
The motivation of defeats in recent years that have left them feeling sick to the pit of their stomachs....
I don't think Galway will be lacking motivation, if Kilkenny can raise and match it, then fair play to them.
Young Hopper
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22-Aug-2012 01:47
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Originally posted by Scaoil Amach an Bobailín:
The motivation of being the first Galway senior hurling team to win an All Ireland in 24 years.The motivation of being written off going onto this final, despite having convincingly beat their opponents only a few weeks ago.The motivation of being labelled bottlers and chokers despite the massive progress they have made this yearThe motivation of defeats in recent years that have left them feeling sick to the pit of their stomachs....I don't think Galway will be lacking motivation, if Kilkenny can raise and match it, then fair play to them.
.......The motivation of being hammered in their own provincial final by a bunch of blow in wannabes?........the motivation of righting the perception that they were pushed around and walked through by a bunch of young lads.....
I don't think it is going to be a problem for Kilkenny to match Galway's motivation.
Scaoil Amach an Bobailín
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22-Aug-2012 01:51
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Originally posted by Young Hopper:
.......The motivation of being hammered in their own provincial final by a bunch of blow in wannabes?........the motivation of righting the perception that they were pushed around and walked through by a bunch of young lads.....I don't think it is going to be a problem for Kilkenny to match Galway's motivation.
Sorry, I forgot to include the motivation of being labelled a bunch of blow in wannabes.
KeepOnHurling
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22-Aug-2012 02:36
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Surely motivation is not a factor, it is an All-Ireland final after all? Not some winter challenge game.
What might be a factor is the ability to cope with the hype leading up to a final, plus the nerves on the day.
For most of the Galway lads this is their first final, as well as Cunningham's first final. So advantage Kilkenny in that respect.
bran flake
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22-Aug-2012 03:16
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Galway will always have problems when the pressure is on in a final. Where are the proven Leaders?
Tipp KK, whoever.... Galway will not look like the team we have seen against KK or Cork already this year.
Scaoil Amach an Bobailín
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Originally posted by bran flake:
Galway will always have problems when the pressure is on in a final. Where are the proven Leaders?Tipp KK, whoever.... Galway will not look like the team we have seen against KK or Cork already this year.
Jaysus, ye Waterford lads are very worried about the fortunes of our hurlers. I suppose ye haven't a lot going on down that way. Thanks for the concern though, we'll take it on board.
labane1917
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22-Aug-2012 04:46
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Originally posted by bran flake:
Galway will always have problems when the pressure is on in a final. Where are the proven Leaders?Tipp KK, whoever.... Galway will not look like the team we have seen against KK or Cork already this year.
Galway have been in 10 finals since 1980. They have won 3 and lost 7, a poor record no doubt. The largest losing margin was 5 points. Remind us again how many finals Waterford contested in that period and the losing margin?
You are either a WUM which is understandable given Waterford as usual are watching on the telly, or a bitter begrudger which is just sad.
blaamain
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22-Aug-2012 07:15
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Originally posted by Scaoil Amach an Bobailín:
Jaysus, ye Waterford lads are very worried about the fortunes of our hurlers. I suppose ye haven't a lot going on down that way. Thanks for the concern though, we'll take it on board.
You're right, we are very worried about ye. We'd worry about anyone playing Kilkenny in an AIF when they haven't been able to beat Waterford in a knockout game since god was a boy.
Have a look at what they did to us in 2008. All we'd ever done to them is live across a river from them.
Frodo
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Surely plain hurling wise you would prefer to play a team you know you have beaten well earlier this year so if there is a problem it is in the head and even then would you prefer to be in the next dressing room on all Ireland final day in a position say Wexford have found themselves in in Leinster finals knowing you have never beaten these guys, I think not, the counter of what many are saying is Galway would be better placed if they had lost the L final, doubtful!!
Hitch
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Originally posted by Frodo:
Surely plain hurling wise you would prefer to play a team you know you have beaten well earlier this year so if there is a problem it is in the head and even then would you prefer to be in the next dressing room on all Ireland final day in a position say Wexford have found themselves in in Leinster finals knowing you have never beaten these guys, I think not, the counter of what many are saying is Galway would be better placed if they had lost the L final, doubtful!!
The only problem though is Dublin destroyed KK in the League Final a couple of years ago, but what happened in their next meeting?
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Originally posted by Hitch:
The only problem though is Dublin destroyed KK in the League Final a couple of years ago, but what happened in their next meeting?
Problem for who? Dublin maybe but has no relevance as they are not involved.
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