Originally posted by coogee bay:
Every time Clare have qualified for an all ireland hurling final since 2002 Kilkenny have been the oposition, senior 2002 u 21 2009 minor 2010 intermediate 2011. This should be a cracker with contrasting styles of play . It would be interesting to see who the neutral posters fancy to win . Both teams have had all their games shown live on TG4 .

Originally posted by coogee bay:
Every time Clare have qualified for an all ireland hurling final since 2002 Kilkenny have been the oposition, senior 2002 u 21 2009 minor 2010 intermediate 2011. This should be a cracker with contrasting styles of play . It would be interesting to see who the neutral posters fancy to win . Both teams have had all their games shown live on TG4 .

Originally posted by finbarrk:
Is this in Thurles at 7pm?

Originally posted by N16:
We dished out a fair hiding to them in May but that counts for nothing. KK were exceptionally impressive on Saturday, their finishing was as clinical as you will see from a KK side. This will be the 4th Clare vs KK Final in 4 years - surely obnly a matter of time before the 2 meet in the senior decider.
After blowing Waterford out of it in Ennis, we stuttered to victory over Tipp and were professional against Antrim without being overly clinical. KK, have done it all against tough opposition and have been very impressive.
Should be a great game of hurling - KK will go off as favourites basedon what they did to galway. Should be close though - and hopefully a good Clare crowd will travel.

Originally posted by Time!!!:
Clare played Kilkenny twice in challenge matches this year and put a serious amount of goals past them running out handy winners. The same happened with the minors in 2010 but when it came down to the task at hand in the All Ireland Final Kilkenny came out on top.
Most of our players in Clare would be somewhat familiar with the Kilkenny lads as a result. I'm sure Moloney and O'Connor will come up with a decent plan with the first one being to swarm the full back line to deny any goal threat.
Could be a cracker of a game.

Originally posted by finbarrk:
Is this in Thurles at 7pm?

Originally posted by Banner1995:
shows how strong KK are that we when we do get to finals, the cats are the oppostion. this is gonna be a real step up for clare form anyhing they have plaed already. a lot of the kklads int he last year, but i think as much as 10 of our lads underage again next yr and 4/5 the following year?
does anyone know where this would be shown in sydney? i obviously dont have tg4 down here! otherwise i will try ns tream it or listen to good old clarefm on the tunein app!hon the banner

Originally posted by Time!!!:
I heard that TG4 mentioned during the semi finals at the weekend that the venue is Thurles and a 5pm throw in.

Originally posted by Time!!!:
I heard that TG4 mentioned during the semi finals at the weekend that the venue is Thurles and a 5pm throw in.

Originally posted by AnFearGorm:
Not certain where you are getting this notion of most kk players in their final yeat at this grade. As far as i can tall four are overage for next year. Dylan Walsh, Jason Corcoran, Willie Phelan, Brian Kennedy, Luke Harney, Ollie Walsh, Padraig Walsh, Kevin Kelly, John Power, Cillian Buckley and Ger Aylward are all underage for next year, im not implying there is anything to be made of that, Limerick had a lot of players from last years team underage for this year and it didnt work out. I am just pointing out that this is quite a young KK team who would have been expected to be stronger next year. I feel that both teams have exceptional sets of forwards in particular and this could be the game of the year, weve seen excellant score by both teams in their matches so far and i think this could almost turn into a shootout between the two forwards lines. i can see this being how scoring and i dont think there will be much in it at the end

Originally posted by Time!!!:
I heard that TG4 mentioned during the semi finals at the weekend that the venue is Thurles and a 5pm throw in.

Originally posted by sideline:
some young player will take the law into his own hands and there will be a serious incident.

Originally posted by N16:
Its essentially the All Ireland Minor pairing from 2 years ago with a few more on either side - wouldnt be surprised to see the same U21 Final next year.

Originally posted by badger:
@ N16I don't mean to knock a genuine Clare supporter but I think you are being very naive if you think it is only a matter of time before Clare and Kilkenny meet in a senior decider. The reality is that Clare have not won a MSHC match since 2008. Bar the game against Dublin, when the opposition totally collapsed in the second half, it is a long time since Clare have been competitive at senior level.The lucky few who do manage to break onto the team and hold a position down will be charged with carrying the burden of leadership from an early. In Limerick, Galway, Tipperary (despite the recent critiscm) and Kilkenny the young players have established leaders at this present time to look up to whereas Clare simply havent filled that void.Of the successful U21 team of 2009, only John Conlon, Nicky O'Connell, Domhnall O'Donovan and Cian Dillon have gone onto to hold regular positions with the seniors while much of the rest of team are mere benchwarmers or else consigned to the scrapheap.The Intermediate success last year gave Daire Keane a platform to show his worth with the seniors but time will tell if that promise will be delivered. Its doubtful any one else from that team will make the step-up.A number of the 2010/2011 minors have been parachuted in (prematurely in my view) to senior championship hurling but, while skill levels seem to be high, questions remain as to whether they will have the physicality to cope with seasoned inter-county seniors (in the mould of Kieran Joyce and Jackie Tyrrell) in time to come.I hope you are right N16 but in my view, Clare are a long, long way off September Sunday's at senior level and have a huge task in 2013 to: a) sustain Division 1 status in the leagueb) become competitive at championship level by winning a match in the Munster Senior Hurling Championship.

Originally posted by badger:
Having successful underage teams definately counts for a lot N16, no doubt about it, but Galway, Tipperary and Kilkenny have been putting out successful underage teams packed with skillful players for the last 10-15 years. As someone posted in another thread, Clare will have to start producing teams of this level consistently before it is to have an impact at senior level.However, in my opinion it will take 5 years for the Clare Senior Hurling team to become a force at senior level once again. Our supporters have taken a bit of pain to date and I feel they will have to take a little bit more. I think patience is required from the Clare public and by the end of this decade we may have the trophies and medals to show for it.But to say that in two years time we will be a match for anyone is a bit premature. In my opinion there are a lot of positions to be settled in almost every line of the field next year, therefore the league is absolutely crucial to our progress. If by this time next year Clare emerged with a settled team playing a consistent brand of hurling, I think most supporters would be pleased. As Fitzgerald himself would say, we are still in the very early stages of forming a team at this level.

Originally posted by badger:
@ N16I don't mean to knock a genuine Clare supporter but I think you are being very naive if you think it is only a matter of time before Clare and Kilkenny meet in a senior decider. The reality is that Clare have not won a MSHC match since 2008. Bar the game against Dublin, when the opposition totally collapsed in the second half, it is a long time since Clare have been competitive at senior level.The lucky few who do manage to break onto the team and hold a position down will be charged with carrying the burden of leadership from an early. In Limerick, Galway, Tipperary (despite the recent critiscm) and Kilkenny the young players have established leaders at this present time to look up to whereas Clare simply havent filled that void.Of the successful U21 team of 2009, only John Conlon, Nicky O'Connell, Domhnall O'Donovan and Cian Dillon have gone onto to hold regular positions with the seniors while much of the rest of team are mere benchwarmers or else consigned to the scrapheap.The Intermediate success last year gave Daire Keane a platform to show his worth with the seniors but time will tell if that promise will be delivered. Its doubtful any one else from that team will make the step-up.A number of the 2010/2011 minors have been parachuted in (prematurely in my view) to senior championship hurling but, while skill levels seem to be high, questions remain as to whether they will have the physicality to cope with seasoned inter-county seniors (in the mould of Kieran Joyce and Jackie Tyrrell) in time to come.I hope you are right N16 but in my view, Clare are a long, long way off September Sunday's at senior level and have a huge task in 2013 to: a) sustain Division 1 status in the leagueb) become competitive at championship level by winning a match in the Munster Senior Hurling Championship.