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Topic: How many AFRian's started using cannabis as teenagers?
Hitch
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 18:00
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From observing some of the recent postings, I'd say quite a few did!

OneLeggedDancer
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 18:17
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Originally posted by Hitch:

From observing some of the recent postings, I'd say quite a few did!

I was 12 so I don't qualify.

ChewingGum
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 18:36
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some are not teenagers yet!
carryharry
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 21:20
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You buying or selling Hitch?

The Jedi
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 21:59
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I dabbled in it before college, wasn't really sure what the fuss was about. I upped the ante in college and enjoyed it a little more (only got the giggles once though) but I could take it or leave it. Quit smoking altogether soon after college.

I did however go to Vegas aged 24 with the sole intention of devouring a cocktail of drugs just to try them all once. All a blur really with some lovely (but expensive) ladies thrown in. 3/4 days of sin, no regrets, and have been "clean" ever since.

Then I became a jedi knight and put away my foolish ways...
cantyoupullonit
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 22:07
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Dabbled in it a handful of times but never really got any good out of it. Been thinking of trying to bake some in cookies or brownies just to see if that would be better than smoking it.
Pills would definitely be the illegal drug of choice for me.

carryharry
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Posted: 28-Aug-2012 22:20
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Originally posted by The Jedi:
I dabbled in it before college, wasn't really sure what the fuss was about. I upped the ante in college and enjoyed it a little more (only got the giggles once though) but I could take it or leave it.

Something like this Jedi?



An Early Bath
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 00:21
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Did you get a chance to hang out with Hunter S Thompson while you were there Jedi?

Originally posted by The Jedi:
I dabbled in it before college, wasn't really sure what the fuss was about. I upped the ante in college and enjoyed it a little more (only got the giggles once though) but I could take it or leave it. Quit smoking altogether soon after college.I did however go to Vegas aged 24 with the sole intention of devouring a cocktail of drugs just to try them all once. All a blur really with some lovely (but expensive) ladies thrown in. 3/4 days of sin, no regrets, and have been "clean" ever since.Then I became a jedi knight and put away my foolish ways...

Taebags
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 00:32
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ANSEO
feckarseindustries
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 01:00
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count me in
bran flake
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 05:08
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cannabis is just as dangerous as drinking a cup of coffee.. Cyrstal meth is yet to hit Ireland hard.. Its sweeping up america destroying communities and lives. Like wise in Sydney.. Know of two people who left Sydney due to the effect the addiction had on them. One a 35 year old friend of mine who was being paid huge money by a stock broker and got sacked. Spent his days high rolling with the wrong dudes, ended up owing 000's, every day smoking up to 2g's of the stuff... Virtually unrecognisible from the cocky Sounthsider from Cork that arrived in Sydney 2 years ago...

Cannabis is NOT a priority... Cyrstal meth - Watch out ireland if this takes hold......
N16
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 07:42
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Not until I went to college. Used to always have a bit at home, not any more. Slows me down the next day - rarely smoke any of the stuff now unless I'm at a party or have no responsibilities for a day or two after.

First ehard of crystal meth around 11 years ago - this Canadian girl I was living with was telling me about it. Mrs N16 tried some in the US about 6 years ago and said it was completely addictive. I have never touched it and have no wish to. I fear for what it would do if it took hold in ireland - especially inner cities. Every bit as bad as heroin if not worse in my opinion. Have seen the effects.

On the other hand Id legalise MDMA in controled circumstances in clubs like they used to do with Es in Holland. Takes away all the agro, makes people happy, makes them want to ance or chat and have fun - in a day and age when its so easy to get hold of coke and people get trashed out of their skulls onm cheap booze, what can possibly be so bad about legalising MDMA? Think this ancient mantra we hear from our elders that "all drugs are bad" needs to be blown away for the myth that it is. Heroin is bad, crack is bad - even coke. All coke does from what I can see is stimulate ego, which is surely the worst facet of the human psyche. But you cant lump everything into the same bracket. Alcohol causes more problem than it solves, it is a powerfully potent drug and its legal. Yet something like MDMA is illegal because its tarred with the "its drugs" brush. And those making the decisions in general were born in an era when the only thing available was a bit of pot and most of them didnt go near it because, well, "it was drugs". Ask any of the hooligans back in the early 90s in England what caused all the trouble to stop in the bars, pubs and clubs and you'll get a unanimous answer.
N16
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 07:53
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Some of you may not be aware of Chris Morris's ground-breaking docu-spoof called Brass Eye from the mid-90s. One of these spoof documentaries was about drugs. And for maximum effect, they contrived this drug which they called Cake - and then got all sort of clueless celebrities such as Noel Edmonds to come out and condemn it. They even got Martin Amess to raise a question in parliament about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0tMvxV-GC4
bran flake
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 08:46
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Originally posted by N16:
Not until I went to college. Used to always have a bit at home, not any more. Slows me down the next day - rarely smoke any of the stuff now unless I'm at a party or have no responsibilities for a day or two after.First ehard of crystal meth around 11 years ago - this Canadian girl I was living with was telling me about it. Mrs N16 tried some in the US about 6 years ago and said it was completely addictive. I have never touched it and have no wish to. I fear for what it would do if it took hold in ireland - especially inner cities. Every bit as bad as heroin if not worse in my opinion. Have seen the effects.On the other hand Id legalise MDMA in controled circumstances in clubs like they used to do with Es in Holland. Takes away all the agro, makes people happy, makes them want to ance or chat and have fun - in a day and age when its so easy to get hold of coke and people get trashed out of their skulls onm cheap booze, what can possibly be so bad about legalising MDMA? Think this ancient mantra we hear from our elders that "all drugs are bad" needs to be blown away for the myth that it is. Heroin is bad, crack is bad - even coke. All coke does from what I can see is stimulate ego, which is surely the worst facet of the human psyche. But you cant lump everything into the same bracket. Alcohol causes more problem than it solves, it is a powerfully potent drug and its legal. Yet something like MDMA is illegal because its tarred with the "its drugs" brush. And those making the decisions in general were born in an era when the only thing available was a bit of pot and most of them didnt go near it because, well, "it was drugs". Ask any of the hooligans back in the early 90s in England what caused all the trouble to stop in the bars, pubs and clubs and you'll get a unanimous answer.

Agreed I have seen only too well what Cyrstal meth can do(Ice).. People who moan about Cannibis just dont get how harmless it is. I dont smoke it as i hate the drag off it and as far as I remembered i never got a kick from it so in the last 10 years on the few ocassions I have been offered a smoke i just said, nah, Im happy as i am..

I agree, cheap booze in a 'Tough man' at 2:30 looking for a fight is totally OK but smoking Cannibis is EVIL.. Oh the ignornant..


theface2010
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 09:07
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I would in be boat that but thankfully no there were term long reprecussions.

Smoked it quite a lot for a long time but have absolutely no interest in it now. Anybody who says it is harmless is talking out of their holes. I would put it as less harmful than booze but there are downsides to it. A lot of people who smoke pot do so on an almost daily basis leading to, at best, a complete lack of ambition leading to disorganized lives and waste of talent and, at worst, a complete breakdown in confidence leading to paranoia and possible psychosis.

I know a good few people unfortunately in best case and worst case scenarios of varying degrees and it is sad to see. Smoking the odd joint here and there is pretty harmless I think but for many many people, it becomes a far more regular habit which does lead to problems.
Kobe Shefflin
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 09:23
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Originally posted by bran flake:
cannabis is just as dangerous as drinking a cup of coffee.. Cyrstal meth is yet to hit Ireland hard.. Its sweeping up america destroying communities and lives. Cyrstal meth - Watch out ireland if this takes hold......

Walter White really does have a lot to answer for!!
batter burger
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 11:26
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Most of the AFR crowd are probably of the age that if they come on saying that they tried it in college or whatever then it is a very different product to what is around today. I smoked quite a bit for a good few years and while i'm pretty sure it's done me no long term harm it did contribute(along with booze and women) to the demise of my serious sporting ambitions, at one stage in my early 20s i far preferred getting stoned than doing sprints or laps on a tuesday night after work. I suppose i suffered from occasional mild paranoia and the delusion that my donkeys bollocks sandwiches were michelin star quality but thats about it.
Nowadays i have a very occasional smoke(nothing for about six months now) but the skunk weed that is commonplace these days is absolutely mind blowing in comparison to the hash we had in the 90s, i would have very serious worries for any young fella who is smoking it day in day out. I can't function normally after a few drags. Far more dangerous than a cup of coffee bran flake.

theface2010
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 11:39
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Originally posted by batter burger:
Most of the AFR crowd are probably of the age that if they come on saying that they tried it in college or whatever then it is a very different product to what is around today. I smoked quite a bit for a good few years and while i'm pretty sure it's done me no long term harm it did contribute(along with booze and women) to the demise of my serious sporting ambitions, at one stage in my early 20s i far preferred getting stoned than doing sprints or laps on a tuesday night after work. I suppose i suffered from occasional mild paranoia and the delusion that my donkeys bollocks sandwiches were michelin star quality but thats about it.
Nowadays i have a very occasional smoke(nothing for about six months now) but the skunk weed that is commonplace these days is absolutely mind blowing in comparison to the hash we had in the 90s, i would have very serious worries for any young fella who is smoking it day in day out. I can't function normally after a few drags. Far more dangerous than a cup of coffee bran flake.

Jaysus bb I could've posted that word for word. The hash of my early smoking days where you would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a night has been replaced by weed that has me a dribbling mess after 5 or 6 drags hence why I would have a smoke about twice a year now and I'm even losing interest in that. I also have big regrets in relation to sport as I went from playing hurling, football, soccer and rugby at 18 to playing nothing by 23.

carryharry
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 11:48
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Originally posted by theface2010:
Jaysus bb I could've posted that word for word. The hash of my early smoking days where you would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a night has been replaced by weed that has me a dribbling mess after 5 or 6 drags hence why I would have a smoke about twice a year now and I'm even losing interest in that. I also have big regrets in relation to sport as I went from playing hurling, football, soccer and rugby at 18 to playing nothing by 23.

The big problem with the weed of today over the hash of years gone by is the sh*t they are spraying on it to increase weight.

Seemingly glass is the product of choice to bulk up weight on weed, smoking glass whatever about the giggles can't be good for you.

Can't understand why it has never being legalized tbh, if someone wants to grow it for personal consumption they should have the right. Anything would be better than contributing to the underworlds coffers.
theface2010
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:01
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Originally posted by carryharry:
The big problem with the weed of today over the hash of years gone by is the sh*t they are spraying on it to increase weight.Seemingly glass is the product of choice to bulk up weight on weed, smoking glass whatever about the giggles can't be good for you.Can't understand why it has never being legalized tbh, if someone wants to grow it for personal consumption they should have the right. Anything would be better than contributing to the underworlds coffers.

That's true harry but it is also a case of lads just growing stronger strains of weed which they buy on the internet in their wardrobes or attics. Cr@p weed was an expensive, exotic commodity when I started out-now you can't even get hash and the weed is far stronger than anything we had access to back in the day. I would be seriously worried for any young lad if they are smoking that stuff now on a regular basis from a young age.
JoNinety
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:04
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Lots of people giving out about the effects of alcohol, but in moderation alcohol is fine. Many studies have shown that moderate consumption of alcohol every day is even good for you, which isn't something you could say about MDMA, cocaine, hash or weed.
carryharry
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:09
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Originally posted by theface2010:
That's true harry but it is also a case of lads just growing stronger strains of weed which they buy on the internet in their wardrobes or attics. Cr@p weed was an expensive, exotic commodity when I started out-now you can't even get hash and the weed is far stronger than anything we had access to back in the day. I would be seriously worried for any young lad if they are smoking that stuff now on a regular basis from a young age.

True face.

But alcohol & ciggarettes are possibly worse drugs that contribute to the state coffers. Okay, there is a knock on effect on the health service with smoking & drink related illness but the option is there for an individual to make up their own mind.

I have a couple of friends who never drink socially and usually have a few smokes at home. Not my thing, i like my sup but i have never seen them acting overly weird on the stuff.

As regards weed being so strong these days, go to Amsterdam if you wanna know what strong weed is.
Fcuk me, a different level altogether.
theface2010
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:18
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Originally posted by carryharry:
True face.But alcohol & ciggarettes are possibly worse drugs that contribute to the state coffers. Okay, there is a knock on effect on the health service with smoking & drink related illness but the option is there for an individual to make up their own mind.I have a couple of friends who never drink socially and usually have a few smokes at home. Not my thing, i like my sup but i have never seen them acting overly weird on the stuff. As regards weed being so strong these days, go to Amsterdam if you wanna know what strong weed is.
Fcuk me, a different level altogether.

Lived there for 4 months harry.

theface2010
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:21
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Originally posted by JoNinety:
Lots of people giving out about the effects of alcohol, but in moderation alcohol is fine. Many studies have shown that moderate consumption of alcohol every day is even good for you, which isn't something you could say about MDMA, cocaine, hash or weed.

Whatever about the class A's, I have never heard of families being destroyed by the effects of weed or loads of lads kicking the sh1t out of each other at half 2 on a Saturday night because they've had a smoke too many.

N16
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Posted: 29-Aug-2012 12:26
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Originally posted by JoNinety:
Lots of people giving out about the effects of alcohol, but in moderation alcohol is fine. Many studies have shown that moderate consumption of alcohol every day is even good for you, which isn't something you could say about MDMA, cocaine, hash or weed.

Moderate consumption is fine, yes.
But you wlak dopwn any town centre on a Saturday night and you can see the effects of a generation who go out to get totally blotto. Its a social norm in Ireland and with it comes all sorts of social problems and violence. Some people are unable to control how much they drink and others are not.

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