Originally posted by Club Delegate:
Its just not right that its not been played on the traditional date of the first Sunday in September. Is it because of that American Football game and accommodating visiting Yanks?

Originally posted by frasiercrane:
I doesn't make much difference its just one week I doubt anyone is going to be annoyed by that and how would they manage to have the football semi final and hurling final on the same day.

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:
It makes every difference to the emigrants in the US who are only able to make it home for the hurling final because it always fell on Labour Day weekend a rare long holiday in the US. Make no mistake about it, despite GAA denials it is all about catering for the private college of Notre Dame and their spending power on a US Bank Holiday weekend.Its an absolute belter of a day today as it tends to be most years early September. Nothing surer it will be -------ing rain next Sunday.

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:
It makes every difference to the emigrants in the US who are only able to make it home for the hurling final because it always fell on Labour Day weekend a rare long holiday in the US. Make no mistake about it, despite GAA denials it is all about catering for the private college of Notre Dame and their spending power on a US Bank Holiday weekend.Its an absolute belter of a day today as it tends to be most years early September. Nothing surer it will be -------ing rain next Sunday.

Originally posted by Gulaad:
Sweet Jesus lads, did ye just ignore my post and continue on with conjecture and rambling for the fun of it? Here it is in black and white, scroll down to Rule 6.30: http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2012_Part1.pdf

This message has been edited - 02-sep-2012 @ 11:06

Originally posted by Gulaad:
Sweet Jesus lads, did ye just ignore my post and continue on with conjecture and rambling for the fun of it? Here it is in black and white, scroll down to Rule 6.30: http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2012_Part1.pdf

Originally posted by frasiercrane:
"All-Ireland Finals
The All Ireland Senior Finals shall be played in Croke
Park: the Football Final shall be played on the penultimate
Sunday in September and the Hurling Final shall be
played two weeks previous. In exceptional circumstances,
the Central Council may make other arrangements. "In exceptional circumstances central council may make other arrangements.The exceptional circumstances are that September has 5 Sundays in it.If the American football match had any influence the Football semi final wouldn't have been on today which some people seem to be forgetting about the match today.The American football match has absolutely nothing to do with the final being on next week.Also next Sunday is the first time the match could be played unless the GAA championship season started one week earlier and every match was played one week earlier that it has been this year

Originally posted by Gulaad:
Oh god, 5 Sundays in September is not exceptional, and Central Council hasn't made an special arrangements this year. There is still a penultimate Sunday and a Sunday two weeks before that, and funnily enough it's these 2 days the finals are being played on.

Originally posted by Club Delegate:
So how do you explain away what Seamus has outlined that every September with 5 Sundays going back to 1940 has had the All Ireland played on 1 and 2 September bar the first few years of the back door from 1997. I've never heard of this rule. When I was growing up the All Ireland Hurling Final was played on the first Sunday in September just like St Patricks Day fell on 17 March and Christmas Day on 25 December.

Originally posted by Club Delegate:
So how do you explain away what Seamus has outlined that every September with 5 Sundays going back to 1940 has had the All Ireland played on 1 and 2 September bar the first few years of the back door from 1997. I've never heard of this rule. When I was growing up the All Ireland Hurling Final was played on the first Sunday in September just like St Patricks Day fell on 17 March and Christmas Day on 25 December.

This message has been edited - 02-sep-2012 @ 12:07

Originally posted by batter burger:
When Cork won in 04 and 05 the finals were played on the second sunday in september, maybe Seamus is talking thru his hole.

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:


Yes much easier to hurl insults than engage in proper debate. The hurling final was fixed for the first Sunday in September in 1925, after the farce of the two finals of 1923. In the 72 years from 1925 to 1996, 69 of the 72 finals were played the first Sunday in September. 1928, 1941 and 1956 were the exceptions. 1956 there was an outbreak of TB in Cork. 1941, an outbreak of Foot and Mouth and 1928 there was also a reason for the delay but it escapes me.As someone who was involved administratively in the GAA in New York for most me the seventies, I can confirm there was a huge flood of immigrants who made the trip home for the final on the Labour Day weekend every year. The change of date in 1997 was deeply unpopular and the restoration of the traditional date in 2006 was welcomed. Its ironic that despite GAA denials to the contrary its a US College Football match that's resulted in the latest change.

Originally posted by Seamus McSpud:


Yes much easier to hurl insults than engage in proper debate. The hurling final was fixed for the first Sunday in September in 1925, after the farce of the two finals of 1923. In the 72 years from 1925 to 1996, 69 of the 72 finals were played the first Sunday in September. 1928, 1941 and 1956 were the exceptions. 1956 there was an outbreak of TB in Cork. 1941, an outbreak of Foot and Mouth and 1928 there was also a reason for the delay but it escapes me.As someone who was involved administratively in the GAA in New York for most me the seventies, I can confirm there was a huge flood of immigrants who made the trip home for the final on the Labour Day weekend every year. The change of date in 1997 was deeply unpopular and the restoration of the traditional date in 2006 was welcomed. Its ironic that despite GAA denials to the contrary its a US College Football match that's resulted in the latest change.