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Backroom setup for Club team
manfromdelmonte
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07-Sep-2012 13:29
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My club is currently reviewing our management for next year. We let the manager of the last two years go. We weren't happy with him, despite his previous good record. He was taking money out of the club for every session, but we didn't make the knockout stages for two years in a row (despite making the semis the previous 3 years)
Now we have a few players in the club who are good (underage) coaches and one of them has asked to train the senior team - hurling and fitness. Any underage team he has trained has been well organised, prepared and generally players improved. It would allow the club to spend the money on the players instead of an outside trainer. What would be the best setup in this instance?
A seperate manager from within the club (we have a few candidates) to call the shots on the line, give team talks and pick the team
along selectors to pick the team and attend trainings
dogs body - someone to help the coach lay out the drills and run the training sessions.
any feedback from clubs that have had a player train them would be appreciated
having a player coaching his own fellow teammates could be troublesome
Boston Bruin
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07-Sep-2012 13:52
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In my experience having a Trainer/Coach from outside the club who is seen from the player’s perspective as also having an influence on team selection (even though this may not be the case), gives a great freshness to a set-up. Fringe players who may have been disillusioned get an extra boost as the see themselves as having a chance of making the team if they can prove themselves, while more established players who may have been resting on their laurels a bit feel like they need to prove a point to the new man, so they also start to give a little bit extra. Young lads will always have enthusiasm of youth anyway so usually they are not a problem. The cumulative effect is the whole squad has a renewed interest and an extra bit of buzz. Obviously there’s cost issue though for an outside man though that has to be taken into account.
cityoftribes
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07-Sep-2012 14:13
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Originally posted by manfromdelmonte:
My club is currently reviewing our management for next year. We let the manager of the last two years go. We weren't happy with him, despite his previous good record. He was taking money out of the club for every session, but we didn't make the knockout stages for two years in a row (despite making the semis the previous 3 years)Now we have a few players in the club who are good (underage) coaches and one of them has asked to train the senior team - hurling and fitness. Any underage team he has trained has been well organised, prepared and generally players improved. It would allow the club to spend the money on the players instead of an outside trainer. What would be the best setup in this instance?A seperate manager from within the club (we have a few candidates) to call the shots on the line, give team talks and pick the team
along selectors to pick the team and attend trainings
dogs body - someone to help the coach lay out the drills and run the training sessions. any feedback from clubs that have had a player train them would be appreciated
having a player coaching his own fellow teammates could be troublesome
Is this guy going to continue to hurl himself with the team he will be coaching?
manfromdelmonte
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07-Sep-2012 16:29
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yes. would be one of the more dedicated players and rarely misses a training and plays every match.
cityoftribes
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07-Sep-2012 16:39
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Originally posted by manfromdelmonte:
yes. would be one of the more dedicated players and rarely misses a training and plays every match.
Sounds like a good idea to let him coach so. but i would be wary of allowing him manage or have any say in team selection, it's a tricky boundary though. Even if he does have the best of intentions his judgement would be swayed or at least attempted to be swayed by team members etc. Also, even letting him train the team might result in a dip in his own form, so be prepared for that.
Personally, I'd be more inclined to get a manager who calls the shots in, as well as at least one other selector.
Maybe he is one of these exceptional guys that could take on the team and mange the whole scene in a successful and impartial manner, but those guys are few and far between!
Bannerabu
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07-Sep-2012 16:48
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Let the lad train the team and leave it at that, let a manager and selectors take it from there
manfromdelmonte
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10-Sep-2012 17:49
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any more advice on this lads please?
We've a meeting later this week.
Cheers
carryharry
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10-Sep-2012 17:54
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Ideal set up imo,
Physical/Hurling trainer.
Manager.
2 Selectors if the trainer has a say too or 3 if he does not.
Imo, the trainer of the team should not be the Manager. It can lead to hassle with lads who are not being picked finding it tough getting motivated for training.
Player Managers, again a tough one. Not impossible if the Selectors & Manager share the work load well. Plus this system creates a management team as opposed to a trainer/manager problem. Unlikely to work at Intermediate/Senior level imo. Some hope at Junior alright.
Let us know what ye decide.
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