Originally posted by laochra gael:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Micko Mc:
The club seems to be bringing a lot of hurlers in from outside the city and from what I hear this is not going down well with a lot of the local hurlers.

If this is the case then did the same locals complain when Anthony Kirwan, Brian Flannery and Michael White transferred in from other clubs.

The lack of underage success is probably a key factor here with DLS and Roanmore making an impact to what was traditionally the MS pick in that part of the city.

From the perspective of club hurling in the county if the mount sion/ballygunner dominance in recent years is over well then that has it`s benefits too.

Originally posted by South Limerick Referee:
The ending of the Ballygunner/Mount Sion dominance is only beneficial if the other clubs have raised themselves to that level. However if the big two have deteriorated to the level of the other clubs, then I would question its benefit.

Lismore seem to be doing well so far. I guess they looked at Ballyduff winning the County after coming up from Intermediate and said, we are a better side than them.   (Though it can be argued that Ballyduff should never have been intermediate in the first place  )  

im afraid that the bgunner dominance is only beginning. the amount of good young lads they have is unreal. winning underage titles for fun, minor and u21s. they provided half the harty cup/all ireland winning PANELS of the last two years.

it is actually fair to say that ballygunner are in transition at the moment. they will go from strength to strength in next few years. very few of the starting 15 from 01s munster winning team remain.

abbeyside and bgunner for next few years, lismore vpossibly this year. also as i thought bduff upper were only a flash in the pan, as with most teams when they come up from intermediate are hard to beat and gain momentum.

assuming they dont meet before semi. this years semi finalists will be ballygunner, abbeyside, lismore and de la salle. tallow being dark horses. any of them can win it

Originally posted by Micko Mc:
Maybe a few of the Mount Sion lads can fill me in on what is happening down there.

From what I can tell there has been a steady decline in senior hurling there for the last 3 or 4 years.

The supply lines from underage seems to be drying up.   (Eoin Kelly prob being the last notable   underager and he was Minor in 2000.

The club seems to be bringing a lot of hurlers in from outside the city and from what I hear this is not going down well with a lot of the local hurlers.

Very poor performance too against Lismore yesterday.

What does the future hold for the club. What are the underage teams like for this year ?

Originally posted by HangBlaa:
After the weekends performance against Lismore i hear there was an emergency meeting called last night.

Presume Fennelly will be blamed for there current woes and shown the door.

Am I right in saying that this year and last Mt. Sion have only won one champioship match.

This message has been edited - 09-may-2008 @ 13:44

Originally posted by OneLeggedDancer:
`Mount Sion and manager Liam Fennelly, the former Kilkenny All-Ireland winning captain, have split following consecutive heavy defeats to Abbeyside and Lismore in the championship. Gone also, following a club meeting on Wednesday night, are Fennelly’s co-select   ors Senan Sutton and Kevin Power.

Into their places for the rest of the championship come Kevin Ryan as manager, who will simultaneously continue as manager of Oulart The Balagh in Wexford and he will be joined in select   ion duties by his brother Eamon and Seamus Cleere.`

From the Munster Express. Is Seamus Cleere from Bennettsbridge? Former Kilkenny county player?

Originally posted by HangBlaa:
Scapegoat. Bigger problems than the manager of the senior team. Their biggest concern should be having to re-grade their U14 team to Roinn B this year.

Originally posted by lovely hurler:
Well he was probably been "looked after", and when results ain`t good the natives get very uppity about it. Typical GAA answer. As Hangblaa says, for a club like MS to be playing "B" hurling is sad. But they should look to St.Vincents in Dublin, St. Finbarrs in Cork, Blackrock in Cork. All big clubs who were or are in the douldrums, but sorted it and are back on track.
Mount Sion`s problems sound very like the Barrs, changing demographics.

Originally posted by TheMonastery:


Would agree but you know as well as I do that most of the lads who were county minors over the last number of years have been treated poorly and none more so that this year

tonto centre forward while trigger is wing back
Ross o`keeffe corner forward and minor county back
Sean is a huge loss
What happened to Gaff
Kirwan back to FF, extremely strange decison but I suppose not the most alarming

Agreed underage failings are very worrying but they should not be hitting home for maybe 5 years yet given the old pool of players and the represtation at minor and u21 level for the last 5 years