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Topic: Cork v Tipp June 8th
Ben Jones (1 Posts)	Posted: 14-May-2008 22:39	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Ben Jones (1 Posts)	We reckon it will be no doubt a cracker of a game, If not THE best game of the season most certainly one for the books as..a ) For all that went on with Cork at start of this year & b ) Plus Tipp winning the League in 08 they should be unstoppable & also for what Tipp went true last year Re:The manager should give them the real hunger for it this year, Ben - Cork Sharon - Tipp
waterford 2-23 (1,119 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 14:09	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
waterford 2-23 (1,119 Posts)	throw in for this game is 2.15 p.m.
like (1,178 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 14:47	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
like (1,178 Posts)	Originally posted by waterford 2-23: throw in for this game is 2.15 p.m. Thanks for that - good to know.
Blanco (7,909 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:24	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Blanco (7,909 Posts)	Prefer the Later starts Myself. When the Draw was made for this game, I thought this was a very good Draw for Cork and would have given Tipp no chance. But Tipp have been very impressive so far, but I will not be really convinced about then untill they can show that they can do it in the championship. Although it won`t be as easy as I thought it would be for them,the game is totally set up to favour Cork, Tipp will be blown up to the last and Cork have to perform after their strike debacle, I`d reckon Cork by 5 or 6 points. The thing about Tipp is no one including themselves are sure how good they are, at the moment I would only have them 4th 5th fav for the AI, but if they gave a big display against Cork and beat them then I think all bets are off and they will take some beating for the rest of the year, I am not sure that they won`t crumble when the big day comes do. It has all the making`s of a super match if Tipp turn Up.
slegs (1,030 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:39	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
slegs (1,030 Posts)	Tipp will win at a canter +7 points
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 15:48	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by Blanco: Prefer the Later starts Myself. When the Draw was made for this game, I thought this was a very good Draw for Cork and would have given Tipp no chance. But Tipp have been very impressive so far, but I will not be really convinced about then untill they can show that they can do it in the championship. Although it won`t be as easy as I thought it would be for them,the game is totally set up to favour Cork, Tipp will be blown up to the last and Cork have to perform after their strike debacle, I`d reckon Cork by 5 or 6 points. The thing about Tipp is no one including themselves are sure how good they are, at the moment I would only have them 4th 5th fav for the AI, but if they gave a big display against Cork and beat them then I think all bets are off and they will take some beating for the rest of the year, I am not sure that they won`t crumble when the big day comes do. It has all the making`s of a super match if Tipp turn Up. I think Tipp will turn up in the sense that they will be still in the game with 5 to 10 mins to go. I cannot see them getting routed a la 2005 Munster Final. For the first time in years the Tipp team is arguably more settled than Corks and this is a good thing. I reckon that 13 of the 15 positions are filled, barring injury. Cork are a little bit more up in the air, but this is mainly due to the strike and the good showing of a couple of younger players. Cork needed these players to show something but will the team be able to gel in the early stages of the game in the face of a strong start from Tipperary?? They have not got as many games under their belt as they possibly would have liked and IMO this is a slight worry for Cork. Tipps weakness is still in the half forward line, but you can see there is a strategy with puckouts to counter this. shorter puckouts to Shane Mcgrath and going long to the full forward line to Corbett and Kelly. The forwards are also working harder than in previous years to close down space for half backs and this is important. It will be a close game IMO and fiercely contested, a throwback to the days when championship games were knockout because neither of these teams will want to lose. win and you are guaranteed a quarter final place and that is a considerable prize. My prediction would be Cork by 2 or 3. I cant wait.
feen (701 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 16:30	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
feen (701 Posts)	Should be a belter of a game and day. Back to the good ol days! I really think Cork are coming into this years championship in fine fettle. They needed a few young forwards to step up to the plate and they have in spades. There`ll be a serious battle to get a starting berth on the forwards now (not to mention cadogan and mcgann in the backs ) . Last years young guns Cronin and O`Neill will be a lot better for last year`s experience. Sean Og has been quoted as saying that there`s a few of the regulars playing for the hurling careers. Add in the after strike effect and it augurs well for a long summer!
Melissa (2,276 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 16:46	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Melissa (2,276 Posts)	Cork haven`t the forwards to worry Tipp. Tipp by 7.
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 16:46	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by feen: Should be a belter of a game and day. Back to the good ol days! I really think Cork are coming into this years championship in fine fettle. They needed a few young forwards to step up to the plate and they have in spades. There`ll be a serious battle to get a starting berth on the forwards now (not to mention cadogan and mcgann in the backs ) . Last years young guns Cronin and O`Neill will be a lot better for last year`s experience. Sean Og has been quoted as saying that there`s a few of the regulars playing for the hurling careers. Add in the after strike effect and it augurs well for a long summer! I think Cork are in for a long summer regardless of the result against Tipp. I have a feeling that the Cork team that starts their last game of the year will be quite different to the one that starts the Tipp game. It will be tough for Gerald to get team select ion right. will he go with some of the older crew who have stood Cork in good stead or give some of the younger lads a run. In fairness some of the younger lads are relatively untested as the league wasnt a whole lot of good to them. Its a big step up to championship. Is there a chance of Gerald getting his team select ion wrong for june 8?
like (1,178 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 16:58	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
like (1,178 Posts)	Originally posted by On the border: [It will be tough for Gerald to get team select ion right. will he go with some of the older crew who have stood Cork in good stead or give some of the younger lads a run. In fairness some of the younger lads are relatively untested as the league wasnt a whole lot of good to them. Its a big step up to championship. Is there a chance of Gerald getting his team select ion wrong for june 8? Yes of course he could but select ion is only one issue - Tipp might be too good on the day whatever Cork team togs out. I doubt if he will be too radical in the first game, same back line and 1 or 2 new forwards. If we are beaten then he will be more adventurous in the back door. I think Tipp will sneak it by a point or two but Cork will improve as the year goes on and will challenge later. We won it in `04 in the back door remember (but with a fresher and better team than we currently have ) . I think Cork are facing a period of transition right now - my expectations are not very high this year.
Sangster (69 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:12	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Sangster (69 Posts)	OTB - Ryan Dwyer fractured his sternum in a collison with Tom Costelloe at the weekend. Doc has ruled him out for the first round. It`s a pity coz it`s the one line we can`t afford to lose anyone out of
feen (701 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:22	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
feen (701 Posts)	Originally posted by On the border: I think Cork are in for a long summer regardless of the result against Tipp. I have a feeling that the Cork team that starts their last game of the year will be quite different to the one that starts the Tipp game. It will be tough for Gerald to get team select ion right. will he go with some of the older crew who have stood Cork in good stead or give some of the younger lads a run. In fairness some of the younger lads are relatively untested as the league wasnt a whole lot of good to them. Its a big step up to championship. Is there a chance of Gerald getting his team select ion wrong for june 8? I think most fellas could pick 13 of the starting 15 as of now Donal Og O`Neill Sullivan Muprhy Gardiner Curran Sean Og Kenny Jerry O`Connor And you could pick 4 out of the 6 starting forwards Ben O`Connor, Niall McCarthy Pa Cronin Neil Ronan. There`ll be a hell of a battle for the other 2 places.
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:23	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by Sangster: OTB - Ryan Dwyer fractured his sternum in a collison with Tom Costelloe at the weekend. Doc has ruled him out for the first round. It`s a pity coz it`s the one line we can`t afford to lose anyone out of Yeah, I saw that on PV. its tough on him as he was looking certain to start. Looks like Callinan now at centre forward, with Butler and Kerwick beside him. Its not exactly the half forward line that anyone would have predicted at the start of the year but there you go.
Melissa (2,276 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:33	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Melissa (2,276 Posts)	Originally posted by On the border: Yeah, I saw that on PV. its tough on him as he was looking certain to start. Looks like Callinan now at centre forward, with Butler and Kerwick beside him. Its not exactly the half forward line that anyone would have predicted at the start of the year but there you go. Callinan got 1-4 against Limerick there in what was Tipp`s last challenge match before the Cork match.......Tipp put up 2-18. I`d go for Butler, Callinan, O Brien
feen (701 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:38	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
feen (701 Posts)	Originally posted by tipptops: Callinan got 1-4 against Limerick there in what was Tipp`s last challenge match before the Cork match.......Tipp put up 2-18. I`d go for Butler, Callinan, O Brien And Cork dont have the forwards!!!!!
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:43	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by tipptops: Callinan got 1-4 against Limerick there in what was Tipp`s last challenge match before the Cork match.......Tipp put up 2-18. I`d go for Butler, Callinan, O Brien I`d have some doubts about Callinan..he didnt exactly play a lot in the league and very often was brought on when Tipp were coasting to victory. Starting him against Cork is a massive step up. I would fancy Kerwick over O`Brien, but only slightly, I think Kerwick will start though.
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 17:45	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by feen: I think most fellas could pick 13 of the starting 15 as of now Donal Og O`Neill Sullivan Muprhy Gardiner Curran Sean Og Kenny Jerry O`Connor And you could pick 4 out of the 6 starting forwards Ben O`Connor, Niall McCarthy Pa Cronin Neil Ronan. There`ll be a hell of a battle for the other 2 places. Cork do look fairly settled in fairness. who are the other two forwards likely to be?? Naughton surely? and Deane?
Collig (1,690 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 18:03	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Collig (1,690 Posts)	Originally posted by On the border: Cork do look fairly settled in fairness. who are the other two forwards likely to be?? Naughton surely? and Deane? I`d say paudie sull and then either fraggie or deane for the last place in the forwards. Naughton will definitely get a run though just dont think he`s upto starting, better off bringing him on when the game opens up a bit..
a langer boy (2,578 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 21:25	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
a langer boy (2,578 Posts)	Agreed, Tipp have only to show up, Tipp by 10 points at least but Galway will win the All-Ireland. The real problem now is how do we stop Tipp talking about 1923 for the rest of the year. We wont be able to stop in Tipp for a coffee for 12 months! And it looks like the hay will be saved too ( and the silage as well )
Sangster (69 Posts)	Posted: 15-May-2008 21:52	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Sangster (69 Posts)	Yeah, I saw that on PV. its tough on him as he was looking certain to start. Looks like Callinan now at centre forward, with Butler and Kerwick beside him. Its not exactly the half forward line that anyone would have predicted at the start of the year but there you go. [/QUOTE] I think Butler is the only one of those that we`d agree on. Callinan always struck me as someone Sheedy would bring on. I was surprised that Darragh Hickey didn`t feature more in the league (although from what I hear the Boherlahan dry throat syndrome is affecting him badly!!! ) Who knows what the half forwards will be but to be fair to sheedy he has done everything right so far so we`ll just have to trust him I suppose. For what it`s worth here`s my team Cummins Buckley (Fanning unlucky to lose out ) Fanning O`Brien Corcoran O`Mahony Maher McGrath Dunne Butler Webster Woodlock Kelly Corbett Ryan
liquidacrobat (182 Posts)	Posted: 16-May-2008 00:05	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
liquidacrobat (182 Posts)	ryan o`dwyer hopes to play for the club this weekend and is in no way ruled out for the cork match. deffo.
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 16-May-2008 00:14	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by Sangster: Yeah, I saw that on PV. its tough on him as he was looking certain to start. Looks like Callinan now at centre forward, with Butler and Kerwick beside him. Its not exactly the half forward line that anyone would have predicted at the start of the year but there you go. I think Butler is the only one of those that we`d agree on. Callinan always struck me as someone Sheedy would bring on. I was surprised that Darragh Hickey didn`t feature more in the league (although from what I hear the Boherlahan dry throat syndrome is affecting him badly!!! ) Who knows what the half forwards will be but to be fair to sheedy he has done everything right so far so we`ll just have to trust him I suppose. For what it`s worth here`s my team Cummins Buckley (Fanning unlucky to lose out ) Fanning O`Brien Corcoran O`Mahony Maher McGrath Dunne Butler Webster Woodlock Kelly Corbett Ryan [/QUOTE] I cant see Webster starting at centre forward, and if he does I think we would be in big trouble. He just does not have the hurling for that position. I would have no problem with Woodlock at wing forward if there was a viable option at centre field. I dont believe Benny has done (sorry ) enough to warrant a spot. he was very poor in the league semi and the final.I had hoped Moloney would contend for that spot but he hasnt had a chance. My team, which is also the one I think Sheedy will pick, would be Cummins Buckley Curran O`Brien Corcoran O Mahony Maher McGrath Woodlock Butler Callinan Kerwick Kelly Corbett Willie Ryan Callinan is a risk, but with Dwyer gone I dont think there is any other option for centre forward. Keeping the puckouts away from him and Curran for the first 20 mins would be a help, let him settle into it...he wasnt a target for any puckouts in the challenge in Dundrum last sunday so I think there will be a strategy in operation for the cork game. Short puckouts to McGrath and long to Corbett and Kelly. Kerwick would also win his share of high balls so he is an option too.
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Posted: 16-May-2008 00:18	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the border (1,823 Posts)	Originally posted by liquidacrobat: ryan o`dwyer hopes to play for the club this weekend and is in no way ruled out for the cork match. deffo. thats great news. if he is fit he will start.. Has he not fractured his sternum?
Sangster (69 Posts)	Posted: 16-May-2008 09:51	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Sangster (69 Posts)	Originally posted by liquidacrobat: ryan o`dwyer hopes to play for the club this weekend and is in no way ruled out for the cork match. deffo. Was just talking to his brother there - he defo won`t play against the Kickhams this weekend but he thinks himself he`ll be able to play against Cork. It might be bravery on his behalf but one decent shoulder against Cork and he might end up doing himself more damage.
On the Green (192 Posts)	Posted: 16-May-2008 14:06	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
On the Green (192 Posts)	Originally posted by On the border: I`d have some doubts about Callinan..he didnt exactly play a lot in the league and very often was brought on when Tipp were coasting to victory. Was he brought on against KK so...? ...

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