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The Price of Petrol and Diesel
turfcutter
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14-Jan-2009 04:51
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Sorry for the early start lads I was out for a few drink tonight and came home to a cow on the points of calving, the first one of the and year for me so I`m passing a bit of time.
The Girlfriend said she got petrol in Ennistymon Yesterday for 94c and she taught the diesel was about the same, seems a good price but she doesn`t know the name of the petrol station is. There were even nice attendants there who filled it for her, like her dad as she described him
I usually fill the tanks I have one with Diesel 2000L €1750 and one with red Diesel 2000L €860 delivered last week.
Total Bill €2610 he gave it all to me for €2500 it was nearly double that last year
I`m actually a bit sorry I did, if I waited I think I would have saved another €500
So I`m interested to know what ye are paying around the AFR world
tipptop
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14-Jan-2009 08:06
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Filled the car last week at 91.9c a litre.
Bog_Bhoy
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14-Jan-2009 08:17
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Originally posted by tipptop:
Filled the car last week at 91.9c a litre.
Johnstown and Urlingford in KK are the cheapest in the country I believe and luckily enough are often on the route home from Dub. 89.9c for petrol in Johnstown last time I topped up but I think Urlingford are the same if not cheaper.
Just checked www.pumps.ie and it`s saying 91.9 in both places so maybe it`s gone back up.
Det. Spunk Murphy Limerick C.I.D.
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14-Jan-2009 10:32
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Turf, why do you reckon it will go down in price? At the moment it is after going up a little in price again. My local oil man told me last week it was going up in price again and wanted to know if i wanted a fill. By coinsidence to your post i was passin my regular petrol station in Limerick city this morning. They are normally fairly competitive (texaco in Roxboro ) and petrol was gone up from 94.9 to 98.9. So it does seem to have gone up.
turfcutter
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14-Jan-2009 14:55
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Taught oil had drop ped below $40 a barrel, it`s interesting to hear the different prices and pumps.ie is great but it doesn`t show the price of the green diesel which I use a lot of
Originally posted by Det. Spunk Murphy Limerick C.I.D.:
Turf, why do you reckon it will go down in price? At the moment it is after going up a little in price again. My local oil man told me last week it was going up in price again and wanted to know if i wanted a fill. By coinsidence to your post i was passin my regular petrol station in Limerick city this morning. They are normally fairly competitive (texaco in Roxboro ) and petrol was gone up from 94.9 to 98.9. So it does seem to have gone up.
lovelylaytrum
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14-Jan-2009 15:39
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turfcutter, your right, prices per barrel are gone well down and have been since the early autumn!! its a disgrace the way prices have stayed so high in filling stations around the country!!
George Washington
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14-Jan-2009 16:05
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its at 40 dollars again, thats the reason for the slight increase, also remember they put 6 cents on in October after the budget
Adam Smith
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14-Jan-2009 16:12
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I can never understand all these people arguing that the price of a barrel of oil has fallen by $x yet I am paying paying €x for petrol. For some reason they think they are being ripped off.
For one, the price of oil did not stay high long enough for the full effect of the $147/barrel price to feed through to the system.
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is a graph of the average price of petrol in Ireland
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Both have an upwward trend over the last few years but the price of petrol does not have the "bubble" we saw in oil this summer. So because it didn`t go up by as much it can`t go down by as much. Also there was 8c added in excise duties in October.
Also if the market was able to sustain sales a price of 135c per litre a couple of months ago surely the price should have stayed there. What could have caused the price to fall to 95c?
turfcutter
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14-Jan-2009 17:15
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Good Post Mr Smith, Fair play.
Do you expect Petrol/ Diesel price to fall further
Originally posted by Adam Smith:
I can never understand all these people arguing that the price of a barrel of oil has fallen by $x yet I am paying paying €x for petrol. For some reason they think they are being ripped off.
For one, the price of oil did not stay high long enough for the full effect of the $147/barrel price to feed through to the system.
Here
is a graph of the average price of petrol in Ireland
And
one
of oil prices
Both have an upwward trend over the last few years but the price of petrol does not have the "bubble" we saw in oil this summer. So because it didn`t go up by as much it can`t go down by as much. Also there was 8c added in excise duties in October.
Also if the market was able to sustain sales a price of 135c per litre a couple of months ago surely the price should have stayed there. What could have caused the price to fall to 95c?
Bog_Bhoy
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26-Jun-2009 10:37
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Was wondering why the price of petrol has sky rocketed again.
I think the following explains it simply. I did not realise that the government took so much!!
http://www.pumps.ie/pricesExplained.php
Speebs
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26-Jun-2009 10:44
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Originally posted by Bog_Bhoy:
Was wondering why the price of petrol has sky rocketed again.
I think the following explains it simply. I did not realise that the government took so much!!
http://www.pumps.ie/pricesExplained.php
Did you not? What planet have you been on for the last 5 years. We have been over and over this debate.
The Government takes a lot yes. But in this case they havent taken an extra since Oct 08 yet the price of petrol is now 120c in some places around Clare whereas the thread shoes that in Jan it was 91-94c in some places.
Oil prices are around 60-70$ a barrel so that cant account for the full increase.
I dont blame the actual station retailers either. They get the least cut of the pie - so it must be refinery prices.
This is borne out the relatively small increase in Diesel prices.
I see very little justification for the high cost of refinery - unless some expert can enlighten us?
(by the way diesel at 105 is about right
manfromdelmonte
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26-Jun-2009 10:59
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they are thieving backstards
simple as
South Limerick Referee
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22-Aug-2012 16:11
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Prices to hit €1.80 in 2 weeks it seems.
theface2010
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22-Aug-2012 16:16
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Its fcuking ridiculous at this stage. €1.70 I paid last night-paid €60 and it was barely 3/4 full. €1 of that €1.70 is VAT-government need to do something at this stage. It's not as if we have a brilliant public transport network as an alternative.
The Remnant
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22-Aug-2012 16:19
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Prices are going out of control. Government really need to step in. Their huge taxes on petrol/diesel is the main reason it's such a high price.
I know they need the money but if they don't step in then business will close and people will be on the dole. Simple.
If this is not tackled, I can see two issues:
1. Businesses will be under severe pressure - esp distribution companies, couriers, anyone with alot of cars on the road (reps, engineers etc.). They are already under pressure - can't access credit, taxes etc. - and this could be the tipping point! Businesses will have to increase the price of their products and pass the cost on to the consumer.
2. People who are communting to work will have to relook at their options. I have already talked about how the average PAYE worker is getting destroyed in this country. This will push people on to the dole as it's not worth working a 40hr week etc.
Mike Baldwin
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22-Aug-2012 16:23
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Scandalous, the country is on its knees, (well not if you work in the public service, so they don't give a sh1t)
spade caller
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22-Aug-2012 16:28
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Public servants famously non-drivers of course.
Grow up
cityoftribes
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22-Aug-2012 16:47
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Originally posted by theface2010:
It's not as if we have a brilliant public transport network as an alternative.
Watch that very public transport system increase their ticket prices now, due to the increase in fuel prices!
Mike Baldwin
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22-Aug-2012 16:48
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Originally posted by spade caller:
Public servants famously non-drivers of course.
Grow up
I'm referring to politicians
murraymarmalade
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22-Aug-2012 17:02
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I go back home on a fairly regular basis. I fly into Shannon or Dublin and have a car from Hertz. I have to refil the car on return. There is hardly any other driving apart from the airport and back. Recently I have noticed the cost to refuel is more each time . So much so that is getting almost as expensive as the flight.
batter burger
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22-Aug-2012 17:15
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For some reason I still try to put an even amount of petrol into the car(moneywise) but lately its getting harder and harder not to go over by a few pence. I usually pay on credit card anyway.
theface2010
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22-Aug-2012 17:21
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Originally posted by batter burger:
For some reason I still try to put an even amount of petrol into the car(moneywise) but lately its getting harder and harder not to go over by a few pence. I usually pay on credit card anyway.
Ya when I8 first started driving I'd always try to get it bang on €20 or whatever-very difficult to do now as the thing goes up so fcuking fast. Got it bang on €60 last night but then I was getting other stuff and paying with laser anyway so it didn't matter a fcuk. Still though a win is a win is a win.
JHume
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22-Aug-2012 17:26
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Government ministers always say that they don't earn any more in tax regardless of how high it goes. That excise is set at a specific tariff and thats that.
I don't believe that. What about the VAT?
At the start of this year, petrol was €1.50 per litre. 23% VAT on that would earn the state 34c per litre
It's now €1.70 per litre. Thats about 39c VAT.
So, while the states excise take on fuel remains constant, it's VAT take increases. Any Government minister that says otherwise is lying.
Or have I missed something?
theface2010
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Originally posted by JHume:
Any Government minister that says otherwise is lying. Or have I missed something?
No that seems about right-we could do with a few good ones like yourself John.
Tinmar
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22-Aug-2012 17:44
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Originally posted by JHume:
Government ministers always say that they don't earn any more in tax regardless of how high it goes. That excise is set at a specific tariff and thats that. I don't believe that. What about the VAT?At the start of this year, petrol was €1.50 per litre. 23% VAT on that would earn the state 34c per litreIt's now €1.70 per litre. Thats about 39c VAT. So, while the states excise take on fuel remains constant, it's VAT take increases. Any Government minister that says otherwise is lying. Or have I missed something?
You are correct in that as the price net of all taxes goes up, the VAT will also increase. However, your calculations above are incorrect. If the retail price per litre is €1.70, this is already inclusive of VAT and excise duties. The actual VAT per litre would be a lot less than 39c.
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