Originally posted by Rebelcounty30:
FFS..i had to laugh..this hack was saying GL had brought disgrace on the policital process and all those who worked in and around it...what a joke...problem with all those who operate in and around leinster house is they instiutionalised and have no concept of peoples disallusionment with the process.

Originally posted by Rebelcounty30:
Political Analyst on Frontline last night!!!..............

Originally posted by twiceasnice97:


noel whelan was / is a member of fianna fail and has contested elections in the past for that party

Originally posted by twiceasnice97:


noel whelan was / is a member of fianna fail and has contested elections in the past for that party

Originally posted by So Called Weaker County:
I think anyone who comes out with bald statements such as "politicians are all the same" or "politicians have lost touch with the people" are quite immature.

Originally posted by level da hoor on tour:


You explained the second part quite well, and id be inclined to agree with you.If they had lost touch they would not be elected.. But can you try to explain how all politicians are not the same?

Originally posted by level da hoor on tour:


You explained the second part quite well, and id be inclined to agree with you.If they had lost touch they would not be elected.. But can you try to explain how all politicians are not the same?

Originally posted by An fear glas agus dubh:


I thought he was dead right. Dont see what relevance him running for FF before has on a discussion about George lee. I think he even described Richard Bruton as sh!t hot so if you are implying he was biased on the frontline last night you are wide of the mark my friend.

As for George Lee....He was naive in the extreme. When are Fine Gael going to realise that Kenny is incompetant and appoint Bruton as leader

Originally posted by So Called Weaker County:
I think anyone who comes out with bald statements such as "politicians are all the same" or "politicians have lost touch with the people" are quite immature.

Politicians aren`t out of touch. If they were, they wouldn`t get elected. You`d swear listening to some people that the government was foisted upon us by the IMF or some other third party. All of the members of the government are elected representatives. Anybody has the right to boot them out at election time. Brian Cowan and Willie O Dea are so popular in their respective constituencies that they consistently break records for the amount of first preference votes.

Noel Whelan, the political analyst that the op was referring to, was clearly frustrated at the mindless commentary from various people suggesting that Seoirse O Laoigh was being "institutionalised" and had to get out because he was going mad blah blah blah. Some of the comments surrounding this topic make me despair at the stupidity/naivety of the Irish electorate.

Parties vote en masse in order to maximise their support and damage the opposition parties. Big deal. It happens in every other parliamentary democracy. It doesn`t mean that there is a deficit of thought or policy just because parties stick together.

The wheels of reform turn slowly and its the way it should be.

Originally posted by Blanco:


He seemed to bend over backwards last night to show his impartiality, saying that FG have not been hit by this at all and none of it reflects badly on them, only on George Lee.

Originally posted by An fear glas agus dubh:


I thought he was dead right. Dont see what relevance him running for FF before has on a discussion about George lee. I think he even described Richard Bruton as sh!t hot so if you are implying he was biased on the frontline last night you are wide of the mark my friend.

As for George Lee....He was naive in the extreme. When are Fine Gael going to realise that Kenny is incompetant and appoint Bruton as leader

Originally posted by Rebelcounty30:


George was never going to win, he was an outsider. He wasnt the 4th generation of his family to be elected, he wasnt hanging around the dail bar. Thats the problem. The tight little groups in leinster house and Irish Politics dont want new faces or radical change. That want the same auld same auld while we keep footing the bill. Noel was acting like a lobbyist last night for it rather than a " policitical analsyst " whatever they do 9-5 monday to friday???

Originally posted by twiceasnice97:


some are corrupt and some are not

Originally posted by level da hoor on tour:


Do you think so? do you not think they are all corrupt its just that some have not been caught yet? Or that they know how to play the system even if its morally wrong?

id place them all in the same bucket. dodge...

Originally posted by twiceasnice97:

no they are not all corrupt. that kind of thinking simply absolves the genuinely corrupt fcukers from any kind of responsibility

George was never going to win, he was an outsider. He wasnt the 4th generation of his family to be elected, he wasnt hanging around the dail bar. Thats the problem. The tight little groups in leinster house and Irish Politics dont want new faces or radical change. That want the same auld same auld while we keep footing the bill. Noel was acting like a lobbyist last night for it rather than a " policitical analsyst " whatever they do 9-5 monday to friday???

Originally posted by Tippex Thinner:


I suppose Leo Varadkar`s great grand parents were shot dead by the Brits at the GPO Easter 1916??????

Originally posted by nlgbbbblth:
That`s Noel Whelan for you. Always good at creating a convincing argument.

I have vivid memories of him being a great debater in our secondary school during the mid 1980s.