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Playing at diferent grades/levels in Hurling
BOBBY BOUCHER
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12-Mar-2010 16:46
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Whilst now well and truely in the twilight of my hurling career I have just realised that I have played championship at every level for the club available in Kilkenny ie. Senior, intermediate, Junior, Junior A and Junior B.
I couldn`t think of anyone else in the club who has played them all nor did anyone else from other clubs jumpp out at me in Kilkenny at least anyway.
Do I at last have a presigious element to record to my failed attempts at glory or is playing at all grades as common as muck these days as lads jump from grade to grade in the one season - note also though our club has only ever fielded two teams at a time.
KKCatExile
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12-Mar-2010 16:48
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Originally posted by BOBBY BOUCHER:
Whilst now well and truely in the twilight of my hurling career I have just realised that I have played championship at every level for the club available in Kilkenny ie. Senior, intermediate, Junior, Junior A and Junior B.
I couldn`t think of anyone else in the club who has played them all nor did anyone else from other clubs jumpp out at me in Kilkenny at least anyway.
Do I at last have a presigious element to record to my failed attempts at glory or is playing at all grades as common as muck these days as lads jump from grade to grade in the one season - note also though our club has only ever fielded two teams at a time.
Come up to Dublin and play for Ranelagh Gaels, you can add Junior F to your resume.
moycullen14
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12-Mar-2010 17:26
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Originally posted by KKCatExile:
Come up to Dublin and play for Ranelagh Gaels, you can add Junior F to your resume.
Jaysus, Junior B is dog rough here in North Cork. The mind boggles as to what Junior F would be like. Gladiator without the skill.......
The referee
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12-Mar-2010 17:44
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I d say that your achievement may not be that unique.
I have played senior ( 2 challenge games ) , intermediate and junior A in a Christy Ring Cup county. my club had 3 teams so i lined with all at various stages. intermediate and junior was my level though.
In Dublin, my club has one team but at times have fielded a 2nd team. started out at junior b level with that club but won our way up to the junior A league and then the intermediate league. back down to junior A league now and never got higher than the junior A championship.
at one stage we entered a 2nd team at junior D level and i made an ocassional appearance for them. so i hurled at intermediate, junior A, junior b and junior D in Dublin.
Originally posted by BOBBY BOUCHER:
Whilst now well and truely in the twilight of my hurling career I have just realised that I have played championship at every level for the club available in Kilkenny ie. Senior, intermediate, Junior, Junior A and Junior B.
I couldn`t think of anyone else in the club who has played them all nor did anyone else from other clubs jumpp out at me in Kilkenny at least anyway.
Do I at last have a presigious element to record to my failed attempts at glory or is playing at all grades as common as muck these days as lads jump from grade to grade in the one season - note also though our club has only ever fielded two teams at a time.
The referee
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12-Mar-2010 17:57
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There are a massive amount of junior hurling teams in Dublin hence the junior ranks run from Junior A right through to Junior F
I have played mainly Junior A in recent years. It is far from dog rough in dublin with the exception of the 2nd teams of one or two senior clubs who are clubs that are well known for disciplinary misdemanours and being dirty at all levels. indeed the play is generally quite open and very few old men playing which one would have traditionally associated with junior hurling. A lot of the Junior A hurlers are dual players with many playing football at a higher level so this means that the level of fitness are quite high. the standard is quite good with the focus on the ball rather than on the man i am glad to report. generally we d train twice a week.
see my previous post where i outlined my involvement with a Junior D team was outlined. that was the lowest junior grade at the time in dublin. whilst they are both junior ranks the difference between junior A and D was massive. hurling was poor and most lads unfit which i suppose is what you would expect. however, the games were not dog rough. u mite get a belt off a lad that was awkard more so than him being dirty.
it helps in dublin that there is a large number of clubs and a turnover of players from the country as this means that the same players are not marking each other several times a year, year in year out
Originally posted by moycullen14:
Jaysus, Junior B is dog rough here in North Cork. The mind boggles as to what Junior F would be like. Gladiator without the skill.......
jugalugs
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12-Mar-2010 18:01
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braveheart id say
Originally posted by moycullen14:
Jaysus, Junior B is dog rough here in North Cork. The mind boggles as to what Junior F would be like. Gladiator without the skill.......
DAF
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12-Mar-2010 18:02
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I played a small bit of junior B hurling in offaly and the way I would describe it is, it is like a bunch of men trying to cut nettles.
Punter72007
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12-Mar-2010 19:18
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In Dublin, there 12 teams per championship .... the bottom 6 (for example ) of intermediate championship wouldn`t be that much better than the top 6 in Junior A (3/4/5 points ) ... however there is a definite gap between Junior A and Junior B.
Junior D in Dublin is suprisingly clean except for a couple of clubs where Ned the thrasher would be proud of, but you know what you`re getting yourself into.
Dare I say it ... if and it`s a big if, I could be making a return this year at Junior E/F ... fast golf basically.
The referee
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12-Mar-2010 19:22
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i d agree with mostly all of your assessment there
Originally posted by Punter72007:
In Dublin, there 12 teams per championship .... the bottom 6 (for example ) of intermediate championship wouldn`t be that much better than the top 6 in Junior A (3/4/5 points ) ... however there is a definite gap between Junior A and Junior B.
Junior D in Dublin is suprisingly clean except for a couple of clubs where Ned the thrasher would be proud of, but you know what you`re getting yourself into.
Dare I say it ... if and it`s a big if, I could be making a return this year at Junior E/F ... fast golf basically.
sliced pan
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12-Mar-2010 19:36
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It is far from dog rough in dublin with the exception of the 2nd teams of one or two senior clubs who are clubs that are well known for disciplinary misdemanours and being dirty at all levels. "The Referee"
Would these be St Marks and Cabra by any chance he he.
I have played loads of grades from Junior C or D to Senior in Dublin. Not sure but in a couple of junior C or D games it was dog rough where I got my wrist and Jaw broken by wild swings in seperate games.
The referee
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12-Mar-2010 19:57
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wouldnt have been referring to marks - only played them once and they were grand. never heard any tales of them being nasty or dirty either.
Originally posted by sliced pan:
It is far from dog rough in dublin with the exception of the 2nd teams of one or two senior clubs who are clubs that are well known for disciplinary misdemanours and being dirty at all levels. "The Referee"
Would these be St Marks and Cabra by any chance he he.
I have played loads of grades from Junior C or D to Senior in Dublin. Not sure but in a couple of junior C or D games it was dog rough where I got my wrist and Jaw broken by wild swings in seperate games.
arock
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12-Mar-2010 22:29
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There was a big drive at the end of last year to try and get players who fell away back into Hurling in Dublin. And indeed football, players who drop ped off at or below minor. In my club we spent a lot of time tracking down previous players, going through records and getting former players back and bringing college friends along and it has mushroomed. Players can now pick and choose the standard they wish to play it, the important thing is getting them back playing. we where amazed with the responses. So i guess in future you`ll see a lot of people emulating the thread author`s achievement, so well done to him it is a fine achievement.
HitemHardHardHard
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12-Mar-2010 23:09
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I have played all levels in Clare Junior B to Senior Champ. Not that rare really Id` say, However,, I once play a Clare Cup (League Match ) , a Junior B and a Junior A league match in less than 24 hours..
First match at 4.30, second at 7pm and the senior Clare cup match at 1pm on the Sunday..
Siezed for a week and lost about a half stone weight!!!
Originally posted by The referee:
I d say that your achievement may not be that unique.
I have played senior ( 2 challenge games ) , intermediate and junior A in a Christy Ring Cup county. my club had 3 teams so i lined with all at various stages. intermediate and junior was my level though.
In Dublin, my club has one team but at times have fielded a 2nd team. started out at junior b level with that club but won our way up to the junior A league and then the intermediate league. back down to junior A league now and never got higher than the junior A championship.
at one stage we entered a 2nd team at junior D level and i made an ocassional appearance for them. so i hurled at intermediate, junior A, junior b and junior D in Dublin.
joe bloggs
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12-Mar-2010 23:11
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Originally posted by BOBBY BOUCHER:
Playing at diferent grades/levels in Hurling
I have played as many grades as you have with the exception of Junior B.
Played Senior, Intermediate, Junior A and Junior C.
I reckon if the club ever gets a Junior B team i`ll have to get a helmet and come out of retirement.
One other thing i have played on those teams in Three diferent counties,starting and finishing with my home club club
sliced pan
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13-Mar-2010 02:11
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Originally posted by The referee:
wouldnt have been referring to marks - only played them once and they were grand. never heard any tales of them being nasty or dirty either.
Marks are grand now maybe some of the lower levels when I played for them there was a good few dodgy players. Ill guess the other team is Kevins Cillians so he he
Don't spare the ash !
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13-Mar-2010 08:59
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Started off in Wicklow in Junior A in 1984 & was on the senior team from 1985 to around 2000 & then was on the intermediate team / senior panel until senior final in 2005.
Took over management of inters then & was player/manager as we did a club senior/inter double in 2008 and " retired " but the club then put in a third team so I was " unretired " to play junior B in 2009 . We lost in the final but I did make a very brief cameo appearance with the senior team in the final of the 125 competition - only because I had played in the 100 centarary cup & they thought it would make a nice peice of history ! .
Even in a county like Wicklow the difference in standard of hurling between senior and junior is savage ( literrally ) . A couple of mates from " stronger " hurling counties came to watch the Junior B final last and among the smart ass comments I`ve suffered since was :
The safest thing on the field was the ball .
A game of 15 upside down helicopters versus 15 threshing machines .
A whole new outlook on phrases such as " man , ball & all " , " hit first & ask questions later " and the reliable " give it to him `round the socks "
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